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Galaga V2 Countercade REDUCED to $49 on Walmart.com

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Phreakwars:
Was gonna snatch one up just to mod it for my youtube channel, talked myself out of it, have enough arcades going on right now and other projects I want to cover, no room for it.

Howard_Casto:
Just for the record, when I say hacked I mean hacked as in modifying the firmware to add more games.   I don't know what these folks on youtube are smoking but gutting a machine and putting a pi inside isn't a hack, that's just repurposing a shell.   

The only reason I make that distinction is due to cost.   At 50 bucks, full stop, no extra cost added, this might be a nice little deal with some more games added in.  If you "hack" it by putting at least $50 worth of new electronics inside then you are up to $100 and imho these just aren't worth it.   The buttons are full on mush, the cpo protector is incorrectly cut to go around buttons instead of underneath and the side art tends to have imperfections on it.   I'm not trying to be too harsh on these at $50 but considering they retail for like $200 I feel like it needs to be pointed out.   

Vocalitus:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 15, 2021, 04:59:57 pm ---Just for the record, when I say hacked I mean hacked as in modifying the firmware to add more games.   I don't know what these folks on youtube are smoking but gutting a machine and putting a pi inside isn't a hack, that's just repurposing a shell.   

The only reason I make that distinction is due to cost.   At 50 bucks, full stop, no extra cost added, this might be a nice little deal with some more games added in.  If you "hack" it by putting at least $50 worth of new electronics inside then you are up to $100 and imho these just aren't worth it.   The buttons are full on mush, the cpo protector is incorrectly cut to go around buttons instead of underneath and the side art tends to have imperfections on it.   I'm not trying to be too harsh on these at $50 but considering they retail for like $200 I feel like it needs to be pointed out.

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OK Howard let us see you make one of those 1Up Barcades for $50 all in.  You cannot and these "nice ideas by 1UP" are not practical, to an already saturated market.

But history allows the exception like those $75 StarWars cabinets last year.  Great for someone in an apartment or short on cash for a slice of this hobby. 

Phreakwars:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 15, 2021, 04:59:57 pm ---Just for the record, when I say hacked I mean hacked as in modifying the firmware to add more games.   I don't know what these folks on youtube are smoking but gutting a machine and putting a pi inside isn't a hack, that's just repurposing a shell.   

The only reason I make that distinction is due to cost.   At 50 bucks, full stop, no extra cost added, this might be a nice little deal with some more games added in.  If you "hack" it by putting at least $50 worth of new electronics inside then you are up to $100 and imho these just aren't worth it.   The buttons are full on mush, the cpo protector is incorrectly cut to go around buttons instead of underneath and the side art tends to have imperfections on it.   I'm not trying to be too harsh on these at $50 but considering they retail for like $200 I feel like it needs to be pointed out.

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Ha!! At $50, I'm throwing a full blown PC in it, hacking it for a larger screen, doing an Ultimarc servostik with some rollie leaf switches and patting myself on the back for getting a cheap shell to work with and some extra junk PCB and monitor crap to sell on eBay for profit. Truff brother, truff  :burgerking:

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Vocalitus on March 16, 2021, 01:26:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 15, 2021, 04:59:57 pm ---Just for the record, when I say hacked I mean hacked as in modifying the firmware to add more games.   I don't know what these folks on youtube are smoking but gutting a machine and putting a pi inside isn't a hack, that's just repurposing a shell.   

The only reason I make that distinction is due to cost.   At 50 bucks, full stop, no extra cost added, this might be a nice little deal with some more games added in.  If you "hack" it by putting at least $50 worth of new electronics inside then you are up to $100 and imho these just aren't worth it.   The buttons are full on mush, the cpo protector is incorrectly cut to go around buttons instead of underneath and the side art tends to have imperfections on it.   I'm not trying to be too harsh on these at $50 but considering they retail for like $200 I feel like it needs to be pointed out.

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OK Howard let us see you make one of those 1Up Barcades for $50 all in.  You cannot and these "nice ideas by 1UP" are not practical, to an already saturated market.

But history allows the exception like those $75 StarWars cabinets last year.  Great for someone in an apartment or short on cash for a slice of this hobby.

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lol   Half a sheet of 3/4 inch plywood is around 20 bucks.   A small 4:3 monitor at goodwill is around 10 or better yet just stuff an old laptop in there.  The 20 dollar controls you can get off flea bay are typically better than what's in the arcade1up.   So yeah it can be done cheaply if you aren't lazy and are willing to actually byoac.... you know, what we are all supposed to be hanging around here for.   

Regardless that is completely irrelevant.   What an end user can build something for and what it's worth are two different things.   Let me give you an example.   A McDonald's toy is surprisingly well made for the price of $3-$5 (what they charge if you don't get the happy meal).   There's no way I could even attempt to make one for that price because I'm not a toy manufacturer, I don't have access to the cnc'd aluminum molds and injection molding machines which would run thousands and even a homebrew solution would be a hundred or so due to the high costs of mold making alginate, ect.   But let's say they started charging $20 for the happy meal toy.   It doesn't matter that I still couldn't make the toy for that price, that is entirely too high for a cheap piece of plastic junk.   That's what we have with the arcade1ups at their retail price point.... they are entirely too high.   If they were made with 3/4 inch plywood or even mdf, included screens with good viewing angles and managed to have good build quality we wouldn't even be having this discussion but none of that is true.   


If you want a quality bartop you buy a kit from one of the fine members of this forum.   Yes it'll be much more than $50, but you'll have a quality build when you are done.   If, on the other hand you want a cheap bartop then you buy this one at $50 and really no more because the components are of so low quality that it isn't worth it to throw any more money at the project.   This is not a hobby of turd polishing..... if you are going to do something you might as well do it right.   

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