What do you guys think about multi-boards? 60-in-1, 412-in-1, etc.?

[Gilrock]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

[Zebidee]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

Dammit, I tried to pre-order but the button does nothing

[Gilrock]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

Dammit, I tried to pre-order but the button does nothing

I just tried it again and it still seems active.  All the button does is add it to the cart so the only reaction is you see the cart get updated in the top right corner.  Then select that to checkout.

[Zebidee]

I tried from laptop before when it didn't work. This time I tried from PC in the Lab and all seems fine

I'd better work out what else I need/want too, while I'm there.

Thanks Gilrock!

[nitrogen_widget]

This is the MiSter case I was planning to 3D print:

Keyboard size max width 360mm and depth 135mm
I can print that in one piece on my 3d printer.

but i know nothing about fpga's though.
I've never used a 60 in 1 either.

[dmckean]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

Opt2Not has been beta testing this thing on his stream. It seems super slick. So much better than trying to connect everything to a JPAC and re-configuring the MiSTer to use keyboard keys for controls.

[nitrogen_widget]

just find an old CD-rom and go attract CD.
sure, no saved high scores but get a dry erase board.

[javeryh]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

Opt2Not has been beta testing this thing on his stream. It seems super slick. So much better than trying to connect everything to a JPAC and re-configuring the MiSTer to use keyboard keys for controls.

Any vids available to watch this?  I'm not even sure what it is but I'd like to take a look...

[dmckean]

Preorder is live:

https://misteraddons.com/products/mistercade

Opt2Not has been beta testing this thing on his stream. It seems super slick. So much better than trying to connect everything to a JPAC and re-configuring the MiSTer to use keyboard keys for controls.

Any vids available to watch this?  I'm not even sure what it is but I'd like to take a look...

Yeah, if you follow the link above it has a number of videos and links to the twitch streams of the beta testers.

[csnow]

After extended reading on the MiSTer forums, I found a thread discussing the audio problems with DK.  I think I am just going MAME to get my machine back up and running vs waiting.

[dmckean]

After extended reading on the MiSTer forums, I found a thread discussing the audio problems with DK.  I think I am just going MAME to get my machine back up and running vs waiting.

There's a guy working on all the games with analog audio circuits but I think he took a break to help with the MT-32pi stuff. The MiSTer can't just rely on using sampled audio the way MAME could for years until it got analog audio properly implemented.

[Zeosstud]

Preordered my Mistercade today.. Can not wait. In the meantime just got a new monitor installed for my mister setup, previously had an old Visio TV.. Played 20 screens of the Pac-Man 9th key, no issues at all, ghosts never got out of line. It has been awhile since that was the case. Now I have the right joystick, right device and correct monitor, time to hunt the kill screen.

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[Zeosstud]

@leapinlew I just put up 264k on Pengo using my MiSTer a few days ago, highly under rated game..

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[pbj]

$170?  Yeah, ok.

[Zeosstud]

$170 vs the price of 2 or 3 original boards.. Good deal..

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[Gilrock]

I don’t know what the sound problems are on DK with Mister.  I played it last night to check it out and if there is something wrong only a diehard Donkey Kong nerd will know.

[Zeosstud]

Agree with you 100%, Donkey Kong plays a treat.. They are always trying to improve stuff, still, pretty awesome.

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[lilshawn]

I love how this has degenerated from "what are your thoughst on XX-in-1 boards"...

to, shilling for updates on a mister whateveritis.

think it's time y'all made your own thread, as the last 100 posts got nothing to do with XX-in-1 board thoughts.

[pbj]

Lilshawn has quickly and unexpectedly become my favorite person here.

I hope life is treating you well, brother, and thanks for the laughs.

 

[javeryh]

I love how this has degenerated from "what are your thoughst on XX-in-1 boards"...

to, shilling for updates on a mister whateveritis

Is a Mister not a XX-in-1 type thing to run a cab off of?  I have heard of it but I honestly have no idea what it actually does.

[dmckean]

I love how this has degenerated from "what are your thoughst on XX-in-1 boards"...

to, shilling for updates on a mister whateveritis.

think it's time y'all made your own thread, as the last 100 posts got nothing to do with XX-in-1 board thoughts.

Done
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,164798.msg1736500.html#msg1736500

[Malenko]

Lilshawn has quickly and unexpectedly become my favorite person here.

 

[Haze]

Agree with you 100%, Donkey Kong plays a treat.. They are always trying to improve stuff, still, pretty awesome.

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DK on a Mister is embarrassing, it's basically a port of 2000 era MAME, it's FPGA done *wrong*

FPGA can be a great option, the DK core on it however is absolute dogshit, even Billy Mitchell would be embarrassed to use it.

[Zeosstud]

I can break 150k on it, can you?

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[Zebidee]

FPGA can be a great option, the DK core on it however is absolute dogshit, even Billy Mitchell would be embarrassed to use it.

 

Surely that guy would do *anything* for perceived personal advantage?

[csnow]

I can break 150k on it, can you?

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It's not a question if it is playable, but rather the quality of that playability.  If the audio is off or its on par with an early MAME build as @Haze mentioned then it lands in 60-1 territory for me.  There are definitely complaints about it on the MiSTer forum.  Obviously its a superior platform to the 60-1, but without quality cores the net result is the same for me.  FPGA is a great concept and probably the future of retro gaming, but right now its missing some key games outside of the DK quality issues.  I will let it mature for a year or two and revisit later.

[Haze]

I can break 150k on it, can you?

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It's not a question if it is playable, but rather the quality of that playability.  If the audio is off or its on par with an early MAME build as @Haze mentioned then it lands in 60-1 territory for me.  There are definitely complaints about it on the MiSTer forum.  Obviously its a superior platform to the 60-1, but without quality cores the net result is the same for me.  FPGA is a great concept and probably the future of retro gaming, but right now its missing some key games outside of the DK quality issues.  I will let it mature for a year or two and revisit later.

Yeah, Mister, like any other emulation, is only as good at whoever writes that emulation.

If you're basing it on modern knowledge, chip decaps etc. it can be great (and doing such wasn't feasible when a lot of MAME drivers were originally written, and much of the information available now wasn't back then either)

If you're doing it based on already old knowledge, it's not so great, and in some cases ends up worse than older versions of MAME even.

Mister does not have a good solution for 'netlist' / analog sound simulations, so you're stuck with older samples, not proper emulation.  Same reason the C64 SID stuff is reportedly still off, it's analog.

[bobbyb13]

I can break 150k on it, can you?

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It's not a question if it is playable, but rather the quality of that playability.  If the audio is off or its on par with an early MAME build as @Haze mentioned then it lands in 60-1 territory for me.  There are definitely complaints about it on the MiSTer forum.  Obviously its a superior platform to the 60-1, but without quality cores the net result is the same for me.  FPGA is a great concept and probably the future of retro gaming, but right now its missing some key games outside of the DK quality issues.  I will let it mature for a year or two and revisit later.

Yeah, Mister, like any other emulation, is only as good at whoever writes that emulation.

If you're basing it on modern knowledge, chip decaps etc. it can be great (and doing such wasn't feasible when a lot of MAME drivers were originally written, and much of the information available now wasn't back then either)

If you're doing it based on already old knowledge, it's not so great, and in some cases ends up worse than older versions of MAME even.

Mister does not have a good solution for 'netlist' / analog sound simulations, so you're stuck with older samples, not proper emulation.  Same reason the C64 SID stuff is reportedly still off, it's analog.

All this stuff is amazing to me.
The fact that there is no one "does it all perfectly" method is a testament to how complicated it all really is.
I only understand enough to know that I couldn't do it.

MAME more than adequately makes playing old arcade games I love a reality for me.
Especially it seems for games requiring odd controllers (and authentic sound too it appears.)
Maybe it will always be thus, and that is fine with me.

I'm excited to try the MiSTer with some 8Bitdo controllers for old console stuff though.
Seems that having both systems side by side in the same sit-at cabinet will be the most you could pack into a happy system really.
At least for an old raster CRT that is.

The vector thing is another story entirely.

[Zeosstud]

Above is a link to a quick video I made to show people how you can lock down a MiSTer to only play arcade games..

Hope this clears up any confusion..

-Zeosstud

[javeryh]

Above is a link to a quick video I made to show people how you can lock down a MiSTer to only play arcade games..

Hope this clears up any confusion..

-Zeosstud

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  I assume this can be set up the same way without Alexa by just using a standard pushbutton for power on/off?  That's as close to a perfect solution as I've seen. 

[Zeosstud]

Hey, yeah, of course you can wire up the power in all the normal ways.. I just used that cause it's how I have it setup and it is hard to screw up, which is of course the goal!!

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[Jimbo]

Hey, yeah, of course you can wire up the power in all the normal ways.. I just used that cause it's how I have it setup and it is hard to screw up, which is of course the goal!!

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OK this has got me seriously considering the MiSTer for a 4-way vertical classics cabinet now.  I didn't realise you could lock it down as you have.  Is there definitely no other way someone could break out of the game list?

Cheers

[Zeosstud]

Well, they could connect a keyboard to the cabinet and jack with stuff I guess.. If you only provide them with the 5 buttons I suggested, they are locked in, just like the video shows..

Zeosstud

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[Jimbo]

Thanks - kinda bummed I missed out on the mistercade pre-order now 

[Jimbo]

Well, they could connect a keyboard to the cabinet and jack with stuff I guess.. If you only provide them with the 5 buttons I suggested, they are locked in, just like the video shows..

Zeosstud

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How about preventing the menu to come up when a core is loaded?  Is that possible?

[Zeosstud]

Not 100% clear on the ask.. To switch games, you have to bring up a menu of all the game choices, but it is nothing where you could change a setting or anything..

Zeosstud

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[Gilrock]

Maybe he means the overlays that pop up when you load a core that show you the button layout?

[Jimbo]

I mean when a game is loaded, there seems to be a menu you can bring up to change settings for various things (scandoubler, aspect ratio, upscaling, etc).

 

[bobbyb13]

If you redirect over to the MisTer lovefest thread there are a host of knowledgeable people there offering wisdom