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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2021, 01:19:21 pm »
So i wrestled with the dilema of my T-molding,tried a craft knife -Naff,chisel -too risky,even tried sanding it -also naff.

I decided it probably wasent such a big deal and went ahead and put it on the cab.



Really pleased to see it on,was still bugged by the overhang a bit tho.
Test fitted the glass,and it was a real snug fit,too snug.But no biggie,i can sand the slot a bit and it will be fine.

Problem was when i tried to fit the other panels.Couldnt get the upper back panel past the T-molding.Front panel just squeezed in,but marked the paint doing it.

Looked online and couldnt find a fastcap trimmer,so bought this one from Amazon:



It was only 6euros and 2 days delivery so worth a punt.
When it arrived i tried it on a test piece and found that it was garbage as it was.But after shimming up the rear of the blade so it was a steeper angle it worked ok.



I taped the cab to protect the paint,and spent about an hour carefully going around the edges.

Final result i am really happy with.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2021, 09:14:49 pm »
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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2021, 07:08:33 am »
It looks soooooo good.  Nice job on the t-molding.  Sounds like the overhang was a bigger deal than I thought.  What color will the front panel be?  You are really moving quick with this.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2021, 04:19:09 pm »
What color will the front panel be? 


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Deliberated for a while thinking it would just be to much all yellow, but once the marquee,coin door and speakers are fitted i think a different colour would have been to much.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2021, 04:33:57 pm »
ive reached my deadline on being able to do any major woodwork on my terrace,i open tomorrow so had to make a decision about the marquee and speakers.

First off i was hoping the marquee would have been with me by now,but the guy says there was maintenance work at the printers,so its delayed  :banghead:

I was really nervous about cutting the hole before i have it,but today was crunch day so i had no choice.The dimensions of the marquee look quite tall (330mm x 124mm) when i see it now,but i kept the ratio of the original i think .
Also the speakers needed some thought,the store ive been buying parts from and is quite reliable,didnt have the size speaker grills i wanted in stock.These are also the only metal grills they carry.All the others being plastic.These would be fine if tucked up near the marquee on a normal cab,but where they are on a cabaret,at kids knee height/adults kick height, they might have a short lifespan.

So i went for an all in one sort of setup:

 

The rear of the marquee is recessed to 6mm.2 sheets of 3mm perspex with the marquee sandwiched in between.The light setup ive yet to design will hold them in place.

The speakers i had bought previously for the bartop secondhand online:



Not bad at all,and with the built in volume setup i can place somewhere inside.
I cut some metal grill i had to sit in the recess behind the speaker hole.Then cut a panel to go over the recess,two holes for the speakers,routed out to size using the old speaker housing as a template,then routed a 45 degree angle on the hole for no other reason than i am loving using the router :applaud:




These will be hidden anyway by the grill.
Ive found with at lot of the internal unseen things the temptation to cut corners is quite strong ;D but ive tried to keep my standards up,to the best of my woodworking abilities anyway.

Next up is the PC i think.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2021, 03:32:54 pm »
Quick update.While Ive been sanding and painting the various smaller panels,Ive been doing a bit with the PC.
 I already knew i would have to decase it,as you can see here,it was a tight squeeze:

 

I dismantled the PC,the CPU heatsink bracket is one of the ones where the bolts go thru the motherboard and screw into the case.So i just used a couple more PCB feet as nuts to screw into.They also provide some support in the centre of the motherboard.the motherboard is then attached to a board with more PCB feet.Pretty standard i guess:



Now it was just a case of recreating the case setup.But instead of the cpu fan drawing air in thru the rear of the case.It would be drawing air in thru the cabinet base:






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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2021, 03:38:49 pm »
ive reached my deadline on being able to do any major woodwork on my terrace,i open tomorrow so had to make a decision about the marquee and speakers.

First off i was hoping the marquee would have been with me by now,but the guy says there was maintenance work at the printers,so its delayed  :banghead:

I was really nervous about cutting the hole before i have it,but today was crunch day so i had no choice.The dimensions of the marquee look quite tall (330mm x 124mm) when i see it now,but i kept the ratio of the original i think .
Also the speakers needed some thought,the store ive been buying parts from and is quite reliable,didnt have the size speaker grills i wanted in stock.These are also the only metal grills they carry.All the others being plastic.These would be fine if tucked up near the marquee on a normal cab,but where they are on a cabaret,at kids knee height/adults kick height, they might have a short lifespan.

So i went for an all in one sort of setup:

 

The rear of the marquee is recessed to 6mm.2 sheets of 3mm perspex with the marquee sandwiched in between.The light setup ive yet to design will hold them in place.

The speakers i had bought previously for the bartop secondhand online:



Not bad at all,and with the built in volume setup i can place somewhere inside.
I cut some metal grill i had to sit in the recess behind the speaker hole.Then cut a panel to go over the recess,two holes for the speakers,routed out to size using the old speaker housing as a template,then routed a 45 degree angle on the hole for no other reason than i am loving using the router :applaud:




These will be hidden anyway by the grill.
Ive found with at lot of the internal unseen things the temptation to cut corners is quite strong ;D but ive tried to keep my standards up,to the best of my woodworking abilities anyway.

Next up is the PC i think.
I love the Tully, such a great design! I miss my Qbert, but Iím glad Jim has it. Itís in good hands.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2021, 03:48:25 pm »
I Fitted the rest of the parts to see how it all fit :



I bought a sata data/power cable extension lead.The SSD is attached with velcro.I also bought an ATX 24 pin extension lead.The PSU comfortably reaches across the base,although i dont know if its well positioned.
 Theres a spare sata power lead in the foto,this will attach to the VGA to scart cable,and switches the TV to AV1 when the cabinet powers on.Also I have the P4 cable spare,and may use it to power the extra fan which is lying in the foto.Does anyone think an extra fan is needed?

I decided to check it all still worked after being dismantled.Then i decided the Grafic card was very wobbly,so hacked up this bracket:



I may improve that,or at least tidy this one up,but it does what it should and the bracket is rock solid.

Anyway powered up and all working great  :applaud:

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2021, 03:52:43 pm »

I love the Tully, such a great design! I miss my Qbert, but Iím glad Jim has it. Itís in good hands.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2021, 04:58:50 pm »

I love the Tully, such a great design! I miss my Qbert, but Iím glad Jim has it. Itís in good hands.


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Glad to hear that. I will build another one one day - Having the board fire that knocker when Qbert fell was wonderful. That was a great sense of accomplishment!

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2021, 08:49:47 am »
I had the same issue with the pair of bartops I built last month.  I bought 3/4" MDF for everything but the control panel which was plywood and both types of wood caused enough of an overhang that it made getting the control panel and back panel off hard to do.  The T-molding was installed even also.  I used a sharp x-acto knife and shaved off the T-molding for the locations where the panels were rubbing.  I tend to build these things with too tight a fit so I've even had trouble where things were perfect and then just the paint job causes problems.
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« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2021, 10:27:12 am »
I tend to build these things with too tight a fit so I've even had trouble where things were perfect and then just the paint job causes problems.

Yeah i think Id tried to assemble too soon and the paint seemed to cause just as many problems,feeling like rubber.Hopefully now the extra time it has to cure will help.

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2021, 07:46:48 am »
Coming along nicely.  Your computer fan solution is creative, havenít seen that before.  Keep it up!

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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2021, 02:38:30 pm »
Just a quick little update,i seem to work slightly quicker when I see how long since i last added to the thread.

 Ive made a couple of brackets from some aluminium angle to secure the PSU,also tidied up the GPU bracket a little:



Attached the speakers to the board Id made,and added a small bracket for the volume setup.This is one of the turn it down and it clicks off dials,and is easily reached thru the coin door.



The silver disks of the speakers are a little more visible thru the grill than Id expected.I may have to do something about that:



At last my marquee is in the post and should arrive tomorrow.Ive had a bit of a runaround with that and may not be too happy with the results,but Ill see when it arrives.
 Have started working on my CPO and button placement.



I wish Id got the Cpo first as i could be working on fitting the controls now :banghead: but another lesson learnt.























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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2021, 03:34:40 pm »
Love the speaker hole, and I actually like the silver peeking through.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2021, 10:02:31 pm »
Love the speaker hole, and I actually like the silver peeking through.


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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2021, 04:10:35 pm »
I would actually hide the silver peeking through but it's not the end of the world either.  This cab is turning out great.

What kind of coin door are you going to use?  I'm 95% sure I'm building a Tully next as soon as the weather warms up a bit around NYC so I've started planning.  Coin doors are so pricey but necessary to complete the look, IMO.

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« Reply #57 on: March 20, 2021, 09:50:09 am »
I would actually hide the silver peeking through but it's not the end of the world either.  This cab is turning out great.

What kind of coin door are you going to use?  I'm 95% sure I'm building a Tully next as soon as the weather warms up a bit around NYC so I've started planning.  Coin doors are so pricey but necessary to complete the look, IMO.

It will be the Industrias Lorenzo medium coin door.About 85 euros delivered.Its the single coin slot,and im assuming that wont cause any problems with 2 player games.Still undecided whether to get the euro coin mech,or the old 25 peseta coin one,ive got a bag of them lying about somewhere.

 This crap situation with the Pandemic is messing with everything.Ive been delaying buying stuff as it seems wrong spending cash on my hobby,when my family relies on my business being up and running,but the uncertainty about if I"ll still have a business in a month or 2 is getting so old now :banghead:



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Re: First upright build-Tully Cabaret Plans.
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 02:37:10 pm »
Been having a try doing my own CPO and sideart.So ive been watching some Inkscape video tutorials.Managed to get a grasp of placing circles and grouping moving and resizing stuff.Early days as yet.



Ive printed out a bezel for reference.I took the red,yellow and blue from the art to try and tie things together.But the bezel looks so busy compared to the CPO.This needs work.
I also think i can edit the small instruction square on the original bezel for my own needs.

My Marquee finally arrived:



Unfortunately im not too happy with it and have ordered another elsewhere.Hopefully this one will be less stressful.

Last night i had my first go at vectorizing art.I had a rough copy of the Scramble sideart and am working on just using part of the image to create a smaller piece.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387319
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=387317

This is what im aiming for,but to a higher standard obviously:



But again its early days in my struggle,im happy enough with the helmet ive vectorized,and the rockets too,but the vapor trail is a bit abysmal.Am i better off doing that part in Photoshop ??
 I was dead against trying the art myself as im not very artistic,but i lost about 5 hours in a flash as i wrestled with it last night ;D
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« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 02:44:49 pm »
Looking solid. The artwork is really looking great.

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« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 04:32:53 pm »
I love that side art - are you going to stencil it?  That would be really cool. 

As for the CPO and bezel... I'm not sure I like the red/orange or the busy art here.  I get what you are trying to do by tying it all in to the marquee but I think the CPO would look better all black with red/orange color rings around the buttons/joystick or other accents, not covering the entire panel.  It's a little too much, IMO, and you already have that awesome yellow that draws the eye.  It will also make the screen the focal point when looking down. 

The whole thing is really coming together nicely!

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« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 05:26:14 pm »
Looking solid. The artwork is really looking great.

Cheers bud.

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« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 05:48:18 pm »
I love that side art - are you going to stencil it?  That would be really cool. 

As for the CPO and bezel... I'm not sure I like the red/orange or the busy art here.  I get what you are trying to do by tying it all in to the marquee but I think the CPO would look better all black with red/orange color rings around the buttons/joystick or other accents, not covering the entire panel.  It's a little too much, IMO, and you already have that awesome yellow that draws the eye.  It will also make the screen the focal point when looking down. 

The whole thing is really coming together nicely!

The sideart Im most confident about the direction Im going in.Ive got a clear idea in my head of the final version,Its just whether I"ll be able to pull it off myself without it looking to amatuer.
 When i first started looking into artwork for scramble,I saw it was a stencil job.
 The design im looking to produce will have to be on an oval background if i go for a sticker.And that background will have to either match my yellow cab,or use another colour entirely.I dont think id be able to match the yellow 100%.And id rather not have a different colour.
 So Ive been checking out one of those online printer places that can print you up anything big or small on any medium.They do a window sticker thats designed to be removed and moved and used over again for advertising and stuff.
 Im not sure how similar to Mylar it is,but Ive been thinking i could get it printed X2 each side on this stuff.and cut out the red X1 and the blackX1 for each side and have a go.Of course Id risk a world of pain if I mess up,But the design is extremely simple so Im seriously tempted.

And as for the CPO/Bezel,the area just has too much going on i know,but i love that Bezel design :banghead: Ill see how it looks with the black CPO tomorrow.

Thanks for the advice,I know what i like when i see it,but have no idea about the process to get there.
 Constantly amazes me how good some of the work on this site is. :notworthy:

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« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 07:46:24 pm »
That is really looking great.  Scramble is one of my favorites and you are nailing it.  Love that color scheme.   :cheers:

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« Reply #64 on: Today at 11:16:09 am »
I know what i like when i see it,but have no idea about the process to get there.

This sums up my design process as well.  It's why I'm not happy until I've seen a ton of different designs and taken in suggestions from other people.  Sometimes I like something right away but I still want to go through the process even if I end up coming full circle to where I started.

You are definitely headed in the right direction.  The yellow was a super bold and awesome color choice and I think playing around with different designs before committing to anything is going to ensure you make good decisions for the final look. 

 :cheers: