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Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« on: February 01, 2021, 04:29:22 pm »
 Hiya, Looking to mount some Uzi's >:D for a Mame removable panel. I've got the Act light guns here but was looking for the arcade feedback on the MOUNTED steel type gun.

I don't care what games gun, just a metal uzi or assault type gun. Best choice to splice in, gut what have you.
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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2021, 08:06:34 pm »
Operation Thunderbolt - Operation wolf- or? I think those you have to gut right?


 Silent scope3 had an IR gun, not 1 or 2, right? IDK how hard a IR gun from an arcade game would be to get to work. I cant find a lot on google.
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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2021, 09:42:43 pm »
Operation Thunderbolt 3 had an IR gun, not 1 or 2, right?
Operation Wolf (first in the series) had a lightgun, not an IR gun.
- Probably a bad candidate for MAME -- not sure if anyone has got a setup like this working.   :dunno
- IIRC the solenoid is really rough on the gun, especially the sensor.

Operation Thunderbolt (second in series) and Operation Wolf 3 (third in series) used positional guns with potentiometers.   ;D
- Good candidates for MAME.
- Positional guns work the same as an analog joystick.
- Text in the KLOV Operation Thunderbolt entry (apparently copy-pasted from the Operation Wolf entry) wrongly implies that Operation Thunderbolt used a lightgun sensor.
-- You can see the X-axis and Y-axis pots on pages 14-24 of the manual here so it definitely used a positional gun.
- Once you get the correct X/Y/Z/ZRO-axis mount position relative to the screen, calibrate the guns in Windows, and calibrate the guns in the game, you should be good to go.

IDK how hard a IR gun from an arcade game would be to get to work. I cant find a lot on google.
Some Sega games used IR LEDs around the bezel and an IR sensor.

Zebra managed to get one of those guns working here, but you may want to consider this before trying that approach.
It's not an economical option in time or money . Expect to pay around $500 for a working set of all the parts you need.


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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 06:42:26 pm »
Good info, thank  you!

How about getting the recoil to work in Mame, You  don't have a link to a build up do you?

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2021, 06:51:07 pm »
 I found a few that I didn't see before somehow, but nadda on force feedback, wasn't there like an analog mame way back when,for doing outrun wheel and such? I'm forgetting the name.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=131119.0

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2021, 07:22:47 pm »
How about getting the recoil to work in Mame
Look into Howard's MAME Hooker.
- There are several examples around here of QBert "knocker" solenoids which are pretty much the same thing as a recoil solenoid.
http://dragonking.arcadecontrols.com/static.php?page=aboutmamehooker

nadda on force feedback
Check out Boomslang's FFB Arcade Plugin thread.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,157734.0.html


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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2021, 02:44:24 pm »
«Mamehooker» is the way to go. Check this link:

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2021, 06:33:57 pm »

MAMEHOOKER!

 That's the name I was trying to remember! But frack I'm kind of disappointed. My 1st ebay operation Tbolt gun came today...........AND IT'S PLASTIC!! only plus it's very light so a removable cp won't need 2 guys to move.....

 Was operation wolfs metal? Or has my decrepit brain misrembered it being metal?
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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2021, 12:21:50 am »
It was cheap feeling plastic

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2021, 01:03:59 am »
It's the Midway guns that are heavy as hell because they are the size of a small child.   Op wolf's gun was a bit punier. 

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2021, 11:50:18 am »
Some people also modded their Uzi with my gun4ir system if you're interested, it's way cheaper than going to full arcade route and have very close performances  ;)

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Re: Operation wolf Thunderbolt type Mame gun choice?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2021, 01:18:59 pm »
Huh I did not see that before, I'll check it out.  I've got aimtrak here I was going to hack that if worse case.