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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #400 on: April 24, 2021, 11:00:09 pm »

100% agree. I would vote for both of you for president! I think we jump to hate too quickly.



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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #401 on: April 24, 2021, 11:01:43 pm »
In the morning Iím going to lock this thread. Going to bed shortly - please be kind to one another. This is an extremely sensitive and personal topic to many people.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #402 on: April 24, 2021, 11:06:37 pm »
Like I said "Vigo the cool headed".

Just because I haven't signed into the forum doesn't mean I haven't been reading it.

I'm sure Jenn is dancing a demented dance at all the fuss.  So to be very clear opt2not, I don't take kindly to be told to get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---, especially not on a hasty hot headed completely incorrect assumption.  Different opinions are what make the forum an interesting place.  Racism in ANY form is abhorrent and unacceptable to me.  Again to be explicitly clear, the repugnant reaction I had in regards to one of Jenn's posts in her Skateboarding thread WAS about her apparent prejudice.  Before you tell me to get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---, maybe just ask?

Reactionary insulting posts are what they are.

Have I been clear enough? 

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #403 on: April 24, 2021, 11:11:06 pm »

100% agree. I would vote for both of you for president! I think we jump to hate too quickly.



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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #404 on: April 24, 2021, 11:14:10 pm »
  ;D

I promise to leave robot-assface's thread unlocked so you can continue to call him out every year. Does that make a difference?

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #405 on: April 24, 2021, 11:15:51 pm »
  ;D

I promise to leave robot-assface's thread unlocked so you can continue to call him out every year. Does that make a difference?
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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #406 on: April 24, 2021, 11:16:03 pm »
Vigo, with respect, thatís not the impression I got. Jenn was not expressing anger after being called out.  Jenn was justifying the statement by saying ďit came from a lab in China, what should I call it?Ē (Which there is no evidence of that being so anyway).  Then later she doubled down again by saying ďthatís what they call it on the newsĒ.
Yeah, maybe Fox News.

Look, Iím going to be more blunt here. If you havenít experienced racism directed towards your heritage/ethnicity you donít really know what youíre talking about. Iíve had the brunt of two fronts, my white side of the family making fun of me for being the little Chinese mutt, slant eyed kid. And my Chinese side that has called me White Boy or Ghost Child. Not being accepted by either side. No wonder Iím estranged from them all.
Perhaps you might think these terms are benign, but to reciprocate even the slightest most subtle prejudicious remark against your heritage or ethnicity, even if you are a child or adult...it feels fairly awful. We should be better than this by now. Itís 20-fricken-21.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #407 on: April 24, 2021, 11:33:08 pm »
She/He didnít add value to the forum

She/He?  What the heck?

The jury is still out on that.

How is this comment better than her racist comments?
Huh? Being unclear what pronoun to use for Jenn is not the same or worst than racism. Thereís a few of us who believe Jenn is X2ís alt account. There were inconsistencies with Jennís posts that lead us to believe her whole shtick was an act.

How exactly is that confusing to you?

I took your comments to be a purposeful mis-gendering of Jennifer. It just struck me as hypocritical from someone accusing another person of racism. If that wasn't your intent then I misunderstood you.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #408 on: April 24, 2021, 11:36:36 pm »
Have I been clear enough?
Have I been clear enough, is the real question. I said if youíre defending racism or racist people you can get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
Since youíve said you are fully against racism, then surely you were not defending Jenn for it.
So donít get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---. Ok?

You know what, it doesnít even matter.  Iíve decided to put you on ignore anyway. Iím not looking to continue a ďdebateĒ on who is, or how to not be a ---smurfy--- human. Your attitude around this whole issue doesnít agree with me and has tainted my view of you. Itís a shame, weíve drank beers together IRL, I thought you were cooler than this. But I just donít want to engage anymore. If you didnít think a ban was just, thatís fine. I thought it Jenn had it coming for a long time. It is what it is. Iím done. 

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #409 on: April 24, 2021, 11:41:49 pm »
Look, I’m going to be more blunt here. If you haven’t experienced racism directed towards your heritage/ethnicity you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

I'm not going to discount your point of view or what you have gone through. I am sure you had your share and I know if is not always that easy, but I don't know what I am talking about? Bryan, we are friends on Facebook. You can pop on my page and see I have 3 kids in the same situation as you. I assure you, I know what I am talking about.
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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #410 on: April 24, 2021, 11:49:55 pm »
Have I been clear enough?
Have I been clear enough, is the real question. I said if youíre defending racism or racist people you can get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
Since youíve said you are fully against racism, then surely you were not defending Jenn for it.
So donít get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---. Ok?

You know what, it doesnít even matter.  Iíve decided to put you on ignore anyway. Iím not looking to continue a ďdebateĒ on who is, or how to not be a ---smurfy--- human. Your attitude around this whole issue doesnít agree with me and has tainted my view of you. Itís a shame, weíve drank beers together IRL, I thought you were cooler than this. But I just donít want to engage anymore. If you didnít think a ban was just, thatís fine. I thought it Jenn had it coming for a long time. It is what it is. Iím done.

Sounds like a good solution. I'll put you on ignore as well and we can get on with enjoying the forum again.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #411 on: April 25, 2021, 12:08:36 am »
Have I been clear enough?
Have I been clear enough, is the real question. I said if youíre defending racism or racist people you can get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---.
Since youíve said you are fully against racism, then surely you were not defending Jenn for it.
So donít get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---. Ok?

You know what, it doesnít even matter.  Iíve decided to put you on ignore anyway. Iím not looking to continue a ďdebateĒ on who is, or how to not be a ---smurfy--- human. Your attitude around this whole issue doesnít agree with me and has tainted my view of you. Itís a shame, weíve drank beers together IRL, I thought you were cooler than this. But I just donít want to engage anymore. If you didnít think a ban was just, thatís fine. I thought it Jenn had it coming for a long time. It is what it is. Iím done.

Sounds like a good solution. I'll put you on ignore as well and we can get on with enjoying the forum again.

I get you Opt2not - but this is not the way. You're allowing yourself to be over-sensitive because of how close this subject hits home for you. You shouldn't refuse other peoples opinions simply because they don't have the same level of experience as you. No one, even others who share the same genetic makeup, will not have the same experience as you.

But more importantly, you two have no business being at odds to the point you are willing to walk away from each other. You're cool dudes. Maybe avoid the discussion till it's ready to be discussed with cooler heads? Maybe focus on the other things you have in common? Maybe sleep on it and think about it again tomorrow.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #412 on: April 25, 2021, 12:27:57 am »
Lew's right.

You both have valid arguments, reasons for seeing things the ways that you do. But stop pouring your emotional selves into it. Let it be.

In the end Jenn got banned not because of the racist comment, but because of being stubborn and telling everyone to get ---fouled up beyond all recognition---. Don't be like her.

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #413 on: April 25, 2021, 12:37:34 am »
In before the lock

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Re: Jennifer has issues
« Reply #414 on: April 25, 2021, 12:48:50 am »
I don't want to be in your bad books Jim, I have been either directly or indirectly critical of you lately.  Some of your pbj comments annoy me yes, but I have to remember you're basically a good dude here.  So, sorry if was abrupt.  And no, I'm not kissing.  :-\