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Author Topic: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?  (Read 430 times)

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    Been out of the scene for well over a decade and a half...  but my cab is still working nicely I'm happy to say....   http://exibarslair.com

   Is there any new tech that will allow the use of the old school Arcade lightguns to work?  My cab is still running XP and MameWa .97 as a front end ;-) 
  But, I'm not opposed to upgrading her, I have much MUCH newer MB's laying around... but my ulitmarc ArcadeVGA is for AGP, so I'll ahve to find a PCIe version if I can, I guess theyu stopped making them? :-(

   I have a tot FULL of old arcade guns, many working, some in various states of dissasembly... but I know I have enough for 4 or 5 complete guns with a ton of spare parts left over...  I'd love to use a pair of those on my cab...
   Back in the day the ActLabs guns were the thing to get... but I'm hoping that there is something new to interface the arcade light guns... I am using a WG 25" CRT as monitor.

 thanks all!
   Mike B

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2020, 11:59:49 pm »
There are no solution readily available yet.
But if you can wait few months there might be something coming  :angel:

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2020, 12:15:39 am »
There are no solution readily available yet.
But if you can wait few months there might be something coming  :angel:

   LOL, been hearing that for well over 15 - 20 years now... It's always "oh new thing coming in a little while"  :-)   I would up writing drivers for some device that was promising back in the day, but they never quite worked right... jeeze, I don't even remember the name of the device it's been so long...  would have been for XP back then...

  Will this new solution allow the use of "old school" arcade guns on a CRT?  yah, I know both are relics at this point, but so am I :-)  that would be cool to finally be able to use the old guns ;-)

 Mike B

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2020, 12:18:34 am »
There are no solution readily available yet.
But if you can wait few months there might be something coming  :angel:

  Just saw your link to your gun system... super nice dude!  super nice!

Mike B

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2020, 05:17:00 am »
Thanks  ;D

The new system I talked about will allow usage of some specific console gun models, to work on old CRT screens of course.
But I'm not sure about arcade gun models yet so I don't want to promise anything on this side.

I know many people have been saying that, and I totally understand that you are sceptical about it, it's fair.
Just stay tuned ;)

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2020, 05:22:27 am »
Sadly there is nothing new to interface old guns to CRT’s that I am aware of.
There are a few old solutions but they are rare, expensive or just hard to get going with new versions of Windows!

There is the Sinden gun system that works with CRT’s and modern screens that only requires a border around the screen to work.
They are not available to buy retail yet though as they were crowd funded, The first ones should be shipping any day now.

Other than that I have heard many rumours but nothing complete!

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2020, 12:11:43 am »
Sadly there is nothing new to interface old guns to CRT’s that I am aware of.
There are a few old solutions but they are rare, expensive or just hard to get going with new versions of Windows!

There is the Sinden gun system that works with CRT’s and modern screens that only requires a border around the screen to work.
They are not available to buy retail yet though as they were crowd funded, The first ones should be shipping any day now.

Other than that I have heard many rumours but nothing complete!

  what about the AimTrak gun electronics from Ultimarc?  I see they have a kit with just the guts in it that sounds promising, and is fairly cheap to boot...   
 I could put those electronics in a shell of an otherwise broken pair of arcade guns and bring them back to life perhaps :-)

  any thoughts about the AimTrack guns?

Mike B

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2020, 12:32:06 am »
The aimtrack guns are essentially wiimotes.  They work a little better than that, but adjust your expectations accordingly.  I would suggest you take a look at the two excellent diy solutions in the forum first. 

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Re: any new tech to allow an old arcade lightgun to work on an CRT?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2020, 04:09:54 am »
Sadly there is nothing new to interface old guns to CRT’s that I am aware of.
There are a few old solutions but they are rare, expensive or just hard to get going with new versions of Windows!

There is the Sinden gun system that works with CRT’s and modern screens that only requires a border around the screen to work.
They are not available to buy retail yet though as they were crowd funded, The first ones should be shipping any day now.

Other than that I have heard many rumours but nothing complete!

  what about the AimTrak gun electronics from Ultimarc?  I see they have a kit with just the guts in it that sounds promising, and is fairly cheap to boot...   
 I could put those electronics in a shell of an otherwise broken pair of arcade guns and bring them back to life perhaps :-)

  any thoughts about the AimTrack guns?

Mike B

Aimtraks are fine but they are not close to the OG lightguns for CRT's they are a different beast altogether that require patience and time to set up properly.
They also need more frequent calibration if you are changing shooting position allot but on the positive side they are very quick to calibrate and can be done in game.
You can certainly put the innards in a broken old gun to bring them back to life though!
Remember though you also need the light bar to work with them also.