Aliens, Terminator, Robocop, Predator franchises... why no new good films?

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shponglefan:

--- Quote from: Vigo on May 19, 2020, 11:44:42 pm ---Really, the Comic film studios are lucky that their creators generally care more about their stories being told than nitpicking over being true to the source material. just about every film has taken massive creative licenses. It’s really works out. Don’t know why DC tends to biff it constantly.
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It only seems to be Marvel specifically that seems to know how to consistently create decent comic book films. Even Marvel's other IP licensed out to other studios are invariably hit or miss. Deadpool was great, the first couple Spider-Mans were decent, and a couple of the X-Men films weren't bad.

Yet when Marvel can make a completely watchable and relatively entertaining movie about Ant-Man of all characters, yet other studios can't consistently handle far bigger IP like X-Men, it's mind-boggling. I don't know how Marvel does it.

--- Quote ---The franchises already mentioned - Terminator, Predator, Rocky, Alien, Robocop, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Rambo, Ghostbusters, Rocky, Goonies, as far as I know are all original to their films. Those kind of original ideas are sorely missed from movies, especially blockbuster films. CGI films are the only ones out there with some expectations around originality, even if they tend to all follow the same recipe.
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I think the late 70's and 80's was a bit special in this regard, since it was around that time that blockbuster films first started to become a thing. So there was a lot of unexplored territory.

These days so much has already been done.

Mike A:

--- Quote ---Even if you don't like baby Yoda, you have to admit it was brilliant marketing on their part in including him in the show.
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Duh.

Howard_Casto:
The problem with the Marvel films though is they really aren't that good. They are ok at best. Most of them are very safe films... there's a tragedy, it births a hero, said hero fights the evil version of themselves. Up until recently nearly all the films were like that. I'd say the only thing they have going for them are a fairly consistent universe that leans towards the source material and huge Disney-level budgets that allow them to look the part. Really anything the big mouse releases anymore is really safe. Again, they aren't bad though... they just aren't terribly good.

It's been quite a while since I've seen a blockbuster that I would actually want to watch again. It might just be because we have so much content 24/7 now... maybe it's spoiled us.

pbj:
I feel like I outgrew comic books when I was 12. In the 90s, people wearing stuff like X-men and Spider-Man shirts were mocked. Now that stuff is so mainstream it’s unbelievable. Yet every comic book store I walk into is a dump, nobody is buying anything, and I get the stink eye until I leave. I truly don’t get it. Every movie revolves around the invincible good guy punching the bad guy until the movie is over. The DC movies at least flirted with the idea of collateral damage. Yet these things make tons of money.

This has been making the rounds in Houston lately. I’ve kinda come to the realization that the only reason I liked Star Wars so much was because there was little else like it in the mainstream. Worth watching for the guy that dismisses Star Wars as derivative crap at the 2 minute mark yet offers no explanation why he’s standing in line for hours in a Houston parking lot to watch it.

Reminded me an awful lot of that classic Simpsons episode (another lifeline for misfits) where Comic Book Guy withdraws his question.

I gave up on Marvel movies after Guardians 2. I gave up on LOTR/Peter Jackson after the first hobbit movie. I gave up on Star Wars after Rogue One.

:dunno

fallacy:

--- Quote ---It's been quite a while since I've seen a blockbuster that I would actually want to watch again. It might just be because we have so much content 24/7 now... maybe it's spoiled us.
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I have not liked movies in general in the last 8 or so years, I have not been to the theater in that long either. I almost went for End Game but never followed through. I just don’t like the format of movies even more, “movies made for theaters” . Trying to cram charters, plot, build up resolution in the 2 hour limit will fail at least 9 out of 10 times; most theater movies need big action set pieces regardless if it makes any sense or not, it's the only way they can justify why you went to a theater to see it. Just being ok is not good enough either, the movie has to be great, hit every check box in those 2 hours otherwise it is not worth the time. I have seen too much already in this life. Unfortunately for every movie like Fight Club, Back to the Future or even The Shawshank Redemption comes with heaping piles and piles of mediocre repetitive and just pointless crap.

If you watch a movie and you feel like you would never want to watch it again you just wasted your time.

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