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| Howard_Casto:
Ok I've been threatening to build/buy a new pc for a few years now but it's finally time. I've got some extra money, my current desktop will be 10 years old in a few months and I currently have to hot wire it to get it to boot because of failing caps. I'm trying to keep the budget for the pc itself around $400, which is tight, but I need to upgrade my monitor and buy a new UPS, so I'm setting some aside for that So obviously I haven't done this in a looong time and I'm unfamiliar with the performance/quality of popular components. I'm fairly certain this is the MB I want to use: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h/p/N82E16813145083?Item=N82E16813145083 It has all the necessary slots and was the cheapest I could find with 4 ram slots. Ram should be easy btw... I'll get 16gigs (2x8) of ddr4 running at least 3000mhz. I should be able to find that for about $60. There seems to be two schools of thought in regards to how to balance things. Some people say get as good a processor as you can afford and skimp on the video card a little and others say to do the opposite as most games don't use a lot of cpu power. As I'll obviously want to run emulators on the thing, I'm not so sure that's a good idea. I do want to run pc games though and it'd be nice to play some games at 4k as I've got a cheapo VR headset I can barely use sitting in the corner. I had initially wanted to run this rx570 with a ryzen 5 1600, but the cpu just went off sale and it's 50 bucks more now. I might still go with that but I'm just too unfamiliar with the ryzen line to know which is the best value. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-570-gv-rx570gaming-4gd-rev2-0/p/N82E16814932242?Item=N82E16814932242 Thoughts on the card and a potential cpu? I know very little about the ryzen apus… would they be a better option? Ok now on to storage. I've noticed that some people seem to want to get a very small ssd and pair that with a 1tb 7200 rpm. Is there any reason to do that other than cost? I ask because Newegg has a 512gb ssd for $54 right now. I've got sata drives lying around so doesn't that seem like enough storage? Power supplies seem to be a tad bit expensive right now.... I don't know if people are buying more stuff because of the pandemic or what but I used to be able to get a decent power supply for $40 and now it's closer to $60. That's not a huge difference, but since my budget is so tight it'd be nice to find a deal. As for a case I'm not picky. Obviously I don't want it to look like junk, but I don't need a fully rgb lit case with 12 fans on it either. I notice the style seems to be to put the usb ports on the top of the case now.... I'm not sure if I like that or not. It makes sense as most towers are in the floor, but it seems like that'd make it real easy to snap off a thumb drive or usb cable. So guys suggestions or general advice would be welcome. I spent most of yesterday evening and most of this morning researching and I still don't have a clear plan of attack. *Update* Final Parts list/Bill: --------------------------------------------- CPU: ryzen 5 3600 = $173 https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600/p/N82E16819113569?Item=N82E16819113569 GPU: MSI Radeon RX 570 DirectX 12 RX 570 8gb = $140 (-$15 MIR) = $125 https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-570-rx-570-8gt-oc/p/N82E16814137521?Item=N82E16814137521 Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H = $73 (-$15 credit for reloading gift card balance -$5 visa rewards credit) = $53 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FWVJSHC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 HDD: Teamgroup GX2 512GB 2.5" Sata III SSD = $59 (-$90 amazon visa credit)= $-31 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NRMXWHW/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Case: DeepCool MATREXX 55 = $48.75 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GVL3CKJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 RAM: XPG Z1 3000mhz DDR4 16GB(2x8) =$69 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TN4H7PX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Power Supply: Corsair CV450 = $67 https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cv-series-cv450-cp-9020209-na-450w/p/N82E16817139251?Item=N82E16817139251 Fans/RGB: Apevia ST6P2-RGB 6-pack with 2 argb led strips and controller =$49 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0872H2XYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Final Total = ~$554 |
| Drnick:
I Was tasked with building a sub £500 machine recently, Couldn't do it though, Ended up being more like £600, Could have been done it if I didn't add a Video card, Ultimately Went with Ryzen 5 3600x, 256GB M2 Drive,16GB (2x8GB) Ram, RX 570 Graphics card, Simple glass sided case and 700W semi modular PSU. The best Ryzen APU will get Trounced by even the cheapest Mid Range card. If I was you and doing this I would either up the budget by a couple of hundred or get the best processor possible and upgrade the Video card in the future. As for SSD, I can't recommend a decent M2 Drive enough. Boot times are crazy fast with this. Slap a 2TB Enterprise Sata drive in for general storage. As for USB ports on top front, yep we have suffered at work from many a snapped USB drive :) To avoid this I now use a Logitech USB Extension :) |
| pbj:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/wiki/builds |
| shponglefan:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 09, 2020, 02:45:24 am ---Ok now on to storage. I've noticed that some people seem to want to get a very small ssd and pair that with a 1tb 7200 rpm. Is there any reason to do that other than cost? I ask because Newegg has a 512gb ssd for $54 right now. I've got sata drives lying around so doesn't that seem like enough storage? --- End quote --- It's a combination of cost vs performance, and it's generally a good practice to separate things like OS and data on different drives. On my gaming PC I use three drives: 250 GB SSD for OS, 1 TB SSD for games, and a 2 TB 5400 RPM HDD for misc data storage. |
| Howard_Casto:
Well I think normally my budget would be doable, but this damn pandemic has everybody at home and component prices are rising. Like the reddit thread pbj linked to... yeah it recommends the ryzen 1600 like I was wanting to use. The only problem is it says it's 90 bucks.... nope it's 150 now. What annoys me is I had one in my cart yesterday and while I was researching all the other stuff they sold out. :( I'm more flexible that I normally would be on the price... I can go up a hundred... two if absolutely necessary, but that means I'll probably have to skimp on the monitor, and this one is a 19" 1600x900 ips….. time to at least get that up to a 24" 1080p I guess people just need more space than me then. I've got a 500gb 7200 rpm in this machine and while it gets full a lot, I rarely need more space. I think a 512gb ssd (maybe less) coupled with the drives I currently have would do fine. I used to be adamant about separating data from the OS but honestly I've just threw them all on one drive on this pc and I never had any issues. It'll take me longer to transfer my data over when I get the new pc, but eh... you don't do that too often. |
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