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RGB LED Strip Ideas
« on: February 11, 2020, 11:28:01 am »
Hey guys... wow... been over a year since I designed a cabinet, bought all the guts for it.... and did nothing. Few car issues and other projects popped up and ate up all my time and 'fun money'.  ;D

Anyways... I have a RaspPi 3B+ with RetroPie and 128GB SDcard all running great. I have all the buttons I'll need, Samsung 20.1" 4:3 LCD, and other small items, and this weekend buying some wood (finally).

I also have some LED lights. Small white strip for the marquee, and a big roll of RGB LED's to go around the frame on the back, and at the front under the controller above the coin-slot. It has a remote, so can pick some stuff like strobe, specific colours, etc... basically the same as this link.

https://www.amazon.ca/Waterproof-Lighting-Flexible-Changing-Controller/dp/B07VC3DQQY/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=rgb+led+5050&qid=1581438060&sr=8-7

Long way away from worrying about the lighting, but figured ask now... is there anything more exciting to be done (easily) with these lights?

Basically, something a bit more interactive with the game. I don't know, like sound activation? or knows when the game is over or starting and strobes differently?

I'm fine with just having the pre-programmed lights, nothing wrong with that at all... just wasn't sure if there were some sorta lighting feature I didn't know about with the game/retropie.
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2020, 11:40:24 am »
Throw out the Christmas tree lights.

Build an arcade cab and have fun playing arcade games with it. Don't worry about junk that has nothing to do with that.

Your build will be easier, cheaper, and more fun to play when it is done.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 03:05:26 pm »
You might try the MAME Arcade Builders group on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2370133573/?fref=nf


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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 04:02:07 pm »
You might try the MAME Arcade Builders group on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2370133573/?fref=nf

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 04:49:41 pm »
yikes. BARF! I wouldn't trust a group of people who don't know the difference between

die/dye/die

panel/panle

molding/moulding

also...posts that say...i'm just building a super simple control panel with 2 joysticks... and a trackball... and spinner. i may add another joystick for this other game.... and a 4 way/8 way switchable joystick... and a joystick for steam games in the future. and 114 buttons. can i use an ATTINY to interface them to my pi?



money is no object...i want the best possible_______

*suggests something several thousand dollars*

no, not that expensive.... like 100 bucks and under.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 07:34:05 pm »
You might try the MAME Arcade Builders group on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2370133573/?fref=nf

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 07:37:57 pm »
That Facebook group is how KLOVers see BYOAC. Yeek!


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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 10:06:57 am »
You might try the MAME Arcade Builders group on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2370133573/?fref=nf

Damn that's one of those stealth burns.

I should have probably been more specific because it was not my intent to burn anyone.  But I can see why it looks that way.

The point I should have made is that if your interest is more toward "non-standard builds" (not sure what to call them) that have flat screens and LED buttons that Facebook group might be a better resource for you.  I'm not saying it is a good group or a better group.  It just IS a group that supports that type of build. 

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2020, 12:17:44 pm »
@wp34 - Thanks.  I decided to go super easy and cheap, and get a $4 music controller off eBay that basically flashes with the music. Simple and easy solution... I wanted some extra lighting on my build, but fading from colour-to-colour seemed a but boring for an arcade build. :D

So... this site is mainly just CRT screens and non-lit controllers? Like fixing up old cabinets only, not using a PC with Hyperspin or RaspPi and RetroPie?
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2020, 12:38:35 pm »
In theory we prefer cabinets that are tastefully done...Ö in theory.   ;)

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RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2020, 01:29:40 pm »
Where is WP34ís handy Facebook link? Homeboy here needs to find his people...

Oh wait.... itís in THIS THREAD...
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2020, 01:33:05 pm »
@wp34 - Thanks.  I decided to go super easy and cheap, and get a $4 music controller off eBay that basically flashes with the music. Simple and easy solution... I wanted some extra lighting on my build, but fading from colour-to-colour seemed a but boring for an arcade build. :D

So... this site is mainly just CRT screens and non-lit controllers? Like fixing up old cabinets only, not using a PC with Hyperspin or RaspPi and RetroPie?

To answer your question - most of us are trying to recreate an experience from our childhood, one that didnít include built in Christmas lights year round.
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2020, 05:04:09 pm »
Not even sure where to begin with the responses in this thread... forum was way more helpful a few years back when I used it before, less 'catty'... 

Was a simple question, not sure why all the snide comments. As for Christmas lights and being tacky etc... when I grew up in the late '70s and '80s, arcades were full of flashing lights and music... so I am recreating my childhood experience.

I'll go check that Facebook group out... probably more helpful and friendly.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2020, 06:53:30 pm »
The lights were not on the cabs.


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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2020, 08:24:47 pm »
A lot of flashing lights are distracting from gameplay.  That's why you don't see them on most cabs.

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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2020, 10:12:10 pm »
A lot of flashing lights are distracting from gameplay.  That's why you don't see them on most cabs.

Yep - the ďflashing lightsĒ back in the day came from the CRTs, not from additional lights added to a cab. Unless there were pinball machines around, but thatís another type of build.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2020, 12:38:48 am »
I mean I get it, we've all been guilty of it in the past.  You get excited about a new project and you keep adding to it, but while you were so busy trying to figure out if you could, you didn't bother to consider if you should. 


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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2020, 07:01:08 am »
Not even sure where to begin with the responses in this thread... forum was way more helpful a few years back when I used it before, less 'catty'... 

Was a simple question, not sure why all the snide comments. As for Christmas lights and being tacky etc... when I grew up in the late '70s and '80s, arcades were full of flashing lights and music... so I am recreating my childhood experience.

I'll go check that Facebook group out... probably more helpful and friendly.

Build what you want. What you're building, and the experiences that you are trying to recreate are yours. Don't let the naysayers deter you. I didn't have blacklights in any arcade I visited, nor did I recall any crazy carpet, but dudes here do it all the time. Now they build full-on 80's rooms with tons of chachkis, and I never saw that back in the day either. Point is, some guys are just puds. 


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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 07:09:43 am »
Put your cape away Lew.

He wanted flashy lights on his cab. People said it was a bad idea.

He can listen to that advice or he can ignore it. That is what adults do.

He doesn't need you to hold his hand.

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 07:12:45 am »
Point is, some guys are just puds.

And some guys, when asked for their opinion, like to give an honest answer. He asked for suggestions. Itís not like he built something and then people rained on his parade.
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2020, 08:01:25 am »
I'm an expert on led strips but I wouldn't use them on a cab.  I built a control panel with led buttons and lighted joysticks and I wouldn't do it that way again.  The more I got into the hobby the more I appreciate having leaf switches on buttons and joysticks and a CRT when possible.

But if you want to make your arcade cab look like my house I am the guy....I wrote most of the software that 1000's of users around the world use to create sequences like this and I created a lot of the effect algorithms:

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2020, 12:23:57 pm »
But if you want to make your arcade cab look like my house I am the guy....I wrote most of the software that 1000's of users around the world use to create sequences like this and I created a lot of the effect algorithms:



God.. I don't want to know how long that takes to set up, or how bad troubleshooting is.  It's amazing, but I don't think I could do it.

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2020, 07:18:37 pm »
Point is, some guys are just puds.

And some guys, when asked for their opinion, like to give an honest answer. He asked for suggestions. Itís not like he built something and then people rained on his parade.

And here I am giving an honest opinion and what happened? More opinions happened.... Having an opinion and not being a pud aren't mutually exclusive.

The forum is shrinking. Shame to see folks leave.

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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2020, 07:32:10 pm »
You should heed your own sage advice. Pud.

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2020, 07:33:53 pm »
You should heed your own sage advice. Pud.

Wait, I thought you were a JAFA? Or is it a Narcissist?
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2020, 07:57:10 pm »
I guess I should be insulted for being called a pud, but I don't know what one is.  Maybe I'm a stupid pud?   :afro:

I like gilrock's idea for led strips better... I'm actually looking into doing it for next year.  You might be getting some PMs come summer time.  I think rgb strips can be great for lighting an arcade room as well, just not the individual cabinets in said arcade. 

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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2020, 08:40:40 pm »
You gotta admit, puds a funny word. Iím bringing it back! And I wouldíve never thought to do it if it wasnít for you!

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2020, 08:53:31 pm »
Here you go, Howard.

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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2020, 01:54:56 am »

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2020, 03:44:05 pm »
The "fuddy duddy" is strong with a few in this group  :oldman  :lol

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but illumination is part of virtually everything people customize to make their own nowadays.  PC cases, very expensive home theater screens, speaker systems, vehicles, younameit...it probably has accent lights and they are probably dynamically controlled.

We all have opinions about what we think "should" be on a cabinet, but that's all they are, and they don't carry any weight whatsoever with regard to what an individual builder chooses to do on their own machines.  The folks who don't like them are likely in the group of folks who want to re-create the classic look, but others might be using the same cabinet also as a jukebox, or want active buttons to light up to make it easier for guests.  Or maybe just want something with a bit more visual "punch" to wow the folks who are so young as to have likely never even seen what some would consider an "ideal" embodiment.  And if they did, it would likely not be as well-appreciated, as it would by some of us old-timers.

Not everyone is the same, nor are their intentions, and sometimes the advice, though usually well-intentioned, is provided by those who assume that they are.   If it's not well-intentioned, however, then it's just someone who is trying to control someone else's decisions to suit their own aesthetic ideals. 

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2020, 04:18:28 pm »
In short, light Ďem up!
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2020, 04:22:31 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.  If you want some illumination on your cab, if it suits your theme, your design, then go to it.  If you don't like LED lighting on your cab then don't use them.  next.

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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2020, 04:25:32 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.  If you want some illumination on your cab, if it suits your theme, your design, then go to it.  If you don't like LED lighting on your cab then don't use them.  next.

Right. And if you ask people WHAT THEY THINK, and they donít think itís a good idea, donít get mad when they share their opinions and you donít like them. Itís that simple, right?
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2020, 04:41:34 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.  If you want some illumination on your cab, if it suits your theme, your design, then go to it.  If you don't like LED lighting on your cab then don't use them.  next.

Right. And if you ask people WHAT THEY THINK, and they donít think itís a good idea, donít get mad when they share their opinions and you donít like them. Itís that simple, right?

Yeah.  I think the original question was not "should I use them"  but "how can they be used, if I do use them"   Take Arroyo's cab for instance.  That is an excellent example of lighting working well with a design theme.  If I was providing USEFUL feedback, I'd point the OP at that project.

I've called overused LED lighting Christmas tree lights myself.  Used poorly they look bad, agreed.  They have their place in the hobby though as various contributors have shown.

Just to be really clear.  If I ask what BYOAC community thinks I expect friendly feedback not a terse ---smurfette--- slap for different ideas/tastes.  ENUFF.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2020, 04:41:59 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.

Whoa OND sighting!  Does this mean we might see some updates to the threads?

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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2020, 04:45:38 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.

Whoa OND sighting!  Does this mean we might see some updates to the threads?

yeah mate  ;) 

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2020, 05:35:18 pm »
To OP:

If you can incorporate lights in a tasteful way, Iím sure it would be well received (if you are interested in others opinions).  I think there have been some pretty slapped together examples over the last few years that have put a lot of skepticism on it looking good. 

In general diffused lights (i.e. canít see individual LEDís) look a lot better then as Mikey aptly put it, Christmas tree lights (you can see each individual light). 

Doesnít hurt to bounce off some of your ideas to get opinions, but then again as others have said if you have a clear idea in your head then just run with it and see if you like it.

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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2020, 05:44:37 pm »
I'm with Randy on this.  If you want some illumination on your cab, if it suits your theme, your design, then go to it.  If you don't like LED lighting on your cab then don't use them.  next.

Right. And if you ask people WHAT THEY THINK, and they donít think itís a good idea, donít get mad when they share their opinions and you donít like them. Itís that simple, right?

I think this is where the disconnect is. When someone asks for an opinion, it doesn't entitle a response to berate, belittle or be a jerk. I'm betting the written word is to blame for some misinterpretations, but some of the comments are just down right mean spirited. Most of the issues aren't with a difference of opinion, but with the delivery. 

To the OP:
I went with lighting a few key buttons (Credit and Player). I light my trackball and of course I light my coin returns. I added some lights to my speaker grills. I also added lights behind my cabinets that rotate and provide some nice ambiance.

I like some indirect lighting, like under the cabinets. It's a bit cheesey, but I like it:


The speaker grills use Halo eyes, that I flipped inward.


No one who visits yet has told me to "get that junk off my cabinets".
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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2020, 06:07:09 pm »
Yeah. Calling people puds doesn't seem jerky at all.

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Re: RGB LED Strip Ideas
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2020, 06:39:51 pm »
Yeah. Calling people puds doesn't seem jerky at all.

lol, pud - still funny. I didn't call anyone a pud. If you self-identify, that's on you.  ;D

And besides..... worst case is you're saying I'm a jerk, for calling you a pud, for you being a jerk.  :dunno