Crt emudrivers adrenalin update needed

[psakhis]

I'm upgrading cpu and i will install groovyarcade and w10 with dual boot.

I'll check if i can update vulkan drivers on w10.

I updated drivers with last opengl and vulkan from adrenalin 21.5.2.

crt_emudriver_&_tools_2.0_beta_15_21.5.2_W.10-64
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view?usp=sharing

I tested vulkan with cemu and working with async shaders. I'll need to test opengl.

[flybynight]

I have no speed issues with super model and the standard calamity drivers.

Here is what I do

Windows 10 (latest version)
Tri sync crt auto switching
Emudriver
Manually add modelines for 496×384 (model 3 medium resolution)
Run super model passing the 496×384 resolution parameter. The crt switches to medium resolution and the games play fine. Arcade perfection!

You do the same thing with the m2 emulator. Set the resolution in the m2 config file to 496×384

[Dalba]

I'm upgrading cpu and i will install groovyarcade and w10 with dual boot.

I'll check if i can update vulkan drivers on w10.

I updated drivers with last opengl and vulkan from adrenalin 21.5.2.

crt_emudriver_&_tools_2.0_beta_15_21.5.2_W.10-64
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view?usp=sharing

I tested vulkan with cemu and working with async shaders. I'll need to test opengl.

Hello,
With your updated driver, do we have to launch "VulkanRT-1.3.216.0-Installer.exe" or the classic "setup.exe" is enough ?
And thanks for sharing this !

[psakhis]

With classic setup is enough, but i think maybe opengl will be better keep to 18.5.1.

I don't find any advantatge to update opengl and has not been tested enough

[Moksi]

With classic setup is enough, but i think maybe opengl will be better keep to 18.5.1.

I don't find any advantatge to update opengl and has not been tested enough

Just tried the swapping method  Replacing files of system32 and syswow64.
      3.1) amdvlk32.dll and amdvlk64.dll
      3.2) amd-vulkan32.json, amd-vulkan64.json etc.   
With the files from 18.5.2 package restarted but still distorted on my crt.

Or do i have to replace the crt emudriver 18.5.1 completely with your package by running setup ?

[psakhis]

Yes, you can install setup completely.

[Moksi]

Yes, you can install setup completely.

Ok just to be sure with AMD stock drivers installed , crtemudriver 18.5.1 package W10 installed ,do i just install your package 18.5.2 over current drivers? 

[psakhis]

I never installed stock drivers before emudriver...i don't know what happens...

[Dalba]

Yes, you can install setup completely.

Ok just to be sure with AMD stock drivers installed , crtemudriver 18.5.1 package W10 installed ,do i just install your package 18.5.2 over current drivers?

If it can help you, i use DDU from guru3d to uninstall previous crtemudriver, and after reboot i install psakhis's crtemudriver.
At last it's working flawlessly with vulkan (thank you psakhis) ! I didn't try opengl as i don't use this backend in any of my emulators...

[Moksi]

Yes its working thanks to phsakis , no more distort on my crt also cemu & yuzu work on it

[psakhis]

Yes its working thanks to phsakis , no more distort on my crt also cemu & yuzu work on it

Thanks to Calamity, i only inject vulkan driver.

[Moksi]

recommended to run supermodel with standalone switchres if you use a crt

[R-Typer]

I installed psakhis modded driver on my windows 10 machine and radeon 7850. everything works fine! I have AMD Radeon Relive installed as well. Both Vulkan driver and Vulkan API have been updated after installing this modded driver.

Now Retroarch cores that use Vulkan are blazingly fast as well as the latest PCSX2 which uses Vulkan is silky smooth.

Thank you Calamity and psakhis!!!

[mrchrister]

When I tried this method I was unable to get it to work for Vulkan on Dolphin (or in RA). Can someone confirm that Vulkan works with Dolphin? I have a AMD R9 380

[R-Typer]

When I tried this method I was unable to get it to work for Vulkan on Dolphin (or in RA). Can someone confirm that Vulkan works with Dolphin? I have a AMD R9 380

Hey! I just tried and successfully ran Dolphin core in Vulkan in Retroarch 1.12.0. Btw, it seems that Dolphin in latest Retroarch works in d3d11 as well. The picture is off-centered a little bit but not a biggie.

[mrchrister]

Awesome, thanks for testing. I'll give it another try!

[m.andrade1]

Hello R-Typer
I saw you instaled the psakhis modded drivers into a Radeon 7850, i saw on the back of that card that has 1 DP, 1 hdmi, and 2 dvi, so wich port did you get the 15khz signal ? because that card has no vga port anymore.
Asking that because i have a Radeon 7450 with still has vga port,  and i´m very exited to test this modified driver to test with retroarch 1.13, specialy with pcsx2 via vulkan
Thanks Marcos

[R-Typer]

Hello R-Typer
I saw you instaled the psakhis modded drivers into a Radeon 7850, i saw on the back of that card that has 1 DP, 1 hdmi, and 2 dvi, so wich port did you get the 15khz signal ? because that card has no vga port anymore.
Asking that because i have a Radeon 7450 with still has vga port,  and i´m very exited to test this modified driver to test with retroarch 1.13, specialy with pcsx2 via vulkan
Thanks Marcos

Hello Marcos, I have analog RGB VGA output from one of the DVI ports which have analog output on it. To connect VGA cable to my video card, Im using DVI2VGA adapter. I have Sapphire Radeon 7850 1GB model.

[m.andrade1]

Hello R-Typer
Excelent, on my other cab i used an 5450 just like that, thru an adaptaer dvi>vga, i tought on those modern cards that will be no more dvi-a anymore, so seems some of them still can do this.
How about patch your 7850 with atom15 did you tried ?
Thanks Marcos

[R-Typer]

Hello R-Typer
Excelent, on my other cab i used an 5450 just like that, thru an adaptaer dvi>vga, i tought on those modern cards that will be no more dvi-a anymore, so seems some of them still can do this.
How about patch your 7850 with atom15 did you tried ?
Thanks Marcos

You can go upto Radeon 380x and some of those cards have analogue DVI output also. Yes, I have patched my 7850 with Atom15 and I can get into my BIOS, but be warned that modern UEFI BIOS will not work even if video card is patched with Atom15. Solution to this is to attach a VGA or LCD monitor to VGA output on your motherboard and then you can enter and see the BIOS settings.

[m.andrade1]

Hello R-Typer
On my new cab i´m using a Radeon 7450 (has 3 ports, vga, hdmi, dvi) on dvi port i couln´t have 15khz, only on vga, i already patched with 15khz, and i can confirm that on this card Bios works fine thru vga port.
So when i saw this post about those modified drivers, i was very exited, because some cores on retroarch people said that works better with vulkan, i just install a quick fix that i saw on that youtube channel , but seems that has no impact on performance doing that.
So that caucth my interest in test this new updated driver, with updated vulkan support.
Thanks Marcos

[R-Typer]

Hello R-Typer
On my new cab i´m using a Radeon 7450 (has 3 ports, vga, hdmi, dvi) on dvi port i couln´t have 15khz, only on vga, i already patched with 15khz, and i can confirm that on this card Bios works fine thru vga port.
So when i saw this post about those modified drivers, i was very exited, because some cores on retroarch people said that works better with vulkan, i just install a quick fix that i saw on that youtube channel but seems that has no impact on performance doing that.
So that caucth my interest in test this new updated driver, with updated vulkan support.
Thanks Marcos

Hey Marcos, what are you trying to emulate and which emulator are you using?

I quickly googled Radeon 7450 and it seems that it doesnt support Vulkan at all.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-7450-oem.c300

[m.andrade1]

Hello R-Typer
Ohh that´s a penny, basicaly i was trying to get more performance from that card using a more updated driver, my ideia were on the pcsx2 and RPCS3, but with your discovery i think i will get no benefit installing those modded drivers, because my 7450 will not be on the list of vulkan support. Anyway will give a try installing those new drivers, just to see if i get any improvment.
Thanks a lot R-typer !

[mrchrister]

I updated drivers with last opengl and vulkan from adrenalin 21.5.2.

crt_emudriver_&_tools_2.0_beta_15_21.5.2_W.10-64
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view?usp=sharing

I tested vulkan with cemu and working with async shaders. I'll need to test opengl.

This should be pinned somewhere!

I installed the driver today and initially i was having some trouble with 640x480. I had to change vertical sync pulse in arcadeosd to get a distortion free signal, but i believe i had similar issues with calamity's driver, honestly can't remember, it's been a while since i updated. I use a VGA to S-Video adapter (vilena) so my setup is a little unusual. Anyways after figuring this out, everything is working great now!

Dreamcast through flycast emu under RetroArch works much better on my system with Vulkan. In OpenGL it's stuttering a lot when there is too much going on on screen but with Vulkan - buttery smooth. Dolphin and Duckstation are also running great with Vulkan

Great job, psakhis! .

[schmerzkaufen]

... on the topic of Emudrivers update I wanted to say: please wait for RDNA 3 / RX 7000 series (or whatever they'll call it) by the end of 2021.
Updating drivers for current GPUs would be nice but it's good to also consider the additional newer hardware support they're supposed to bring.

if Mr. C updated Emudriver now (up to RDNA 2 same architecture as the new consoles), the added GPUs on the list would all be of the meh 'interim' generations, even the current~newest RX 6000 series clumsily introducing the new features, is meh.
While the next will almost certainly be more accomplished both soft-and-hard-wise.
For us I think RDNA 3 GPUs will be like the R7 and R9 series of the future.

self-quoting a post that aged like milk, damn

in the end the 6600 is probably one of the most widespread 'affordable' modern GPUs these days

dunno what will become of lower end 7000 series to come but anyway the new generation is not very appealing, whether it's red or green team (or blue)

(except maybe if you're filthy rich and can afford a 4090 but that's none of our concern here)

anyway, if an Emudriver update is still on the scheduled future todo, it'd be good to include at least those 6000 series, after all.

the lower end 7000 series will probably be revealed in the coming months, but considering the wacky prices of new GPUs these days I bet no one'll be in a hurry for those


PS: probably inaccurate but recently i've read something about a chinese brand releasing a 6600 with DVI-I output (!)
i'll try to find a link to the article again.

[kill_one]

Yes its working thanks to phsakis , no more distort on my crt also cemu & yuzu work on it

Thanks to Calamity, i only inject vulkan driver.

This trick also works with Crtemudriver Crimson 16.2.1 for GCN? I Have R9 380X card and i would like to run vulkan and start supermodel at the same time without slowdowns...
Thanks to all in advance

[psakhis]

Why 16.2.1? I think R9 380X are 18.5.1 compatible.

[kill_one]

because with adrenaline I had read about problems with Supermodel and Demul, but if it's the only solution to have working vulkan I'll try to replace the crimsons. psakhis did you make a modified version of the drivers for windows 7 x64 too?

[buttersoft]

because with adrenaline I had read about problems with Supermodel and Demul, but if it's the only solution to have working vulkan I'll try to replace the crimsons. psakhis did you make a modified version of the drivers for windows 7 x64 too?

what problems? AMD cards get slowdown on Supermodel sometimes, but for me the fix is to enable/diasble opengl_triplebuffering. Which is done by installing the Radeon Settings file that goes with the driver from Calamity's site.

[psakhis]

because with adrenaline I had read about problems with Supermodel and Demul, but if it's the only solution to have working vulkan I'll try to replace the crimsons. psakhis did you make a modified version of the drivers for windows 7 x64 too?

Yes, i'm using it on my cabinet. Are you interested on it?

Supermodel is slow on AMD cards for knowed bad performance on some opengl functions. On windows i have this options to bypass it
"-legacy3d -quad-rendering -ppc-frequency=66 -true-hz"

[kill_one]

because with adrenaline I had read about problems with Supermodel and Demul, but if it's the only solution to have working vulkan I'll try to replace the crimsons. psakhis did you make a modified version of the drivers for windows 7 x64 too?

what problems? AMD cards get slowdown on Supermodel sometimes, but for me the fix is to enable/diasble opengl_triplebuffering. Which is done by installing the Radeon Settings file that goes with the driver from Calamity's site.

Thanks for the tip, I didn't know that

[kill_one]

Yes, i'm using it on my cabinet. Are you interested on it?

yes thanks, it would help me a lot

Supermodel is slow on AMD cards for knowed bad performance on some opengl functions. On windows i have this options to bypass it
"-legacy3d -quad-rendering -ppc-frequency=66 -true-hz"

does it also work with the latest versions of supermodel?

[psakhis]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gJ0yGqqv54foLcAzxiAhBVpCcizyrIBC/view?usp=share_link

Yes, it works with supermodel actual version. On GroovyArcade, Linux AMD drivers are better and this isn't needed.

[kill_one]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gJ0yGqqv54foLcAzxiAhBVpCcizyrIBC/view?usp=share_link

Yes, it works with supermodel actual version. On GroovyArcade, Linux AMD drivers are better and this isn't needed.

Thank you! Do I have to overwrite your files with Calamity's and then install driver from setup?

[buttersoft]

you shouldn't need to fall back to the -legacy3d option if you can enable opengl_triplebuffering, remember.

[shiryu55]

I am not clear about the new process to have the latest crt drivers with vulkan,,


It would be something like this .
uninstall drivers 18.5.1 and crt emudriver.
install the version you posted on driver https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view

And then do you have to carry out some other process?

[psakhis]

I am not clear about the new process to have the latest crt drivers with vulkan,,


It would be something like this .
uninstall drivers 18.5.1 and crt emudriver.
install the version you posted on driver https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view

And then do you have to carry out some other process?

It's all. It's the same @Calamity driver, i only added vulkan files on it.

[Dalba]

Hello psakhis,
Since i updated my win10 with latest windows updates and all emulators to latest, i'm not able to use anymore vulkan driver in emulators (Pcsx2, retroarch flycast and parallei) with my HD7850. I tried to reinstall your driver but it's still the same...
Do you have an idea what could do the trick ? Until i did those updates, your driver was working perfectly for vulkan...

[Milsancho]

I am not clear about the new process to have the latest crt drivers with vulkan,,


It would be something like this .
uninstall drivers 18.5.1 and crt emudriver.
install the version you posted on driver https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZ6CB8rSCdxEohYmIDPTxYc40LGx3bh7/view

And then do you have to carry out some other process?

It's all. It's the same @Calamity driver, i only added vulkan files on it.

I also want say hello and thanks to psakis. But since the thread is a bit confusing if you read it from the beginning, let me ask again if, for a new installation with Windows 7 64 bits, do I just need to install this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gJ0yGqqv54foLcAzxiAhBVpCcizyrIBC/view?usp=share_link

instead of the official CRT Emu Driver or any official AMD driver previously, as mentioned very earlier in this thread?


Is there any drawback against installing the official Emu Driver? If there isn't, why Calamity hasn't made of it the official version as he proposed here?

[Dalba]

Hello psakhis,
Since i updated my win10 with latest windows updates and all emulators to latest, i'm not able to use anymore vulkan driver in emulators (Pcsx2, retroarch flycast and parallei) with my HD7850. I tried to reinstall your driver but it's still the same...
Do you have an idea what could do the trick ? Until i did those updates, your driver was working perfectly for vulkan...

I reply to myself as i may have found a clue about what is happening. Problem come from updating my emulators. Regarding Pcsx2, since version 4886, it seems they use newer functions in vulkan than before. In log this is what i found : "Vulkan: Missing required extension VK_KHR_push_descriptor. Failed to create GS device".
Pcsx2 versions older than 4886 work OK.
I guess it's the same thing with newer cores of flycast and parallei in retroarch.

Psakhis, is there a way to update vulkan version included in your modded driver to meet new requirements ?