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JDFan:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on March 19, 2020, 02:20:43 pm ---Well they can't fix it without breaking the other games on the cab.  Karate Champ and Bad Dudes absolutely need 8 way joysticks.

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Wasn't Karate Champ 4-way ??

Howard_Casto:
I guess it is.  I only ever played the NES port. 

leapinlew:

--- Quote from: negative1 on March 19, 2020, 02:58:41 am ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 18, 2020, 01:42:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: negative1 on March 18, 2020, 01:12:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 18, 2020, 09:33:16 am ---Lots of well-earned complaints about this cabinet. Complaints about the game selection and 8 way joysticks.

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That might be, but the game selection and controls were known since they debuted it as karate champ
a year ago.

Also, it didn't stop it from selling out. So, it's just a matter of modding it, if people really want to fix things.

Nothing different, from all their other cabinets (except maybe Star Wars).

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I think you're missing the point....

The fact that folks are complaining shows they understand the difference between an 8 way and 4 way and game play. Gripes about screen orientation also shows a desire to be more true to the originals. I think it's a bit of a maturing market and Arcade1up will need to do a better job of grouping games together. Defender slipped by, and a few folks didn't like the controller scheme, but seeing many more folks unhappy with the burgertime controls. I get that these are all data east, but they aren't good candidates for a single cabinet. Hopefully Arcade1up does a better job in the future grouping the games together.

I mean, it's a burgertime cabinet, but the controls aren't setup for burgertime. That's kinda screwy.

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looks like they will be addressing the issue:

Someone posted about the 4 way/8 way issue in the official facebook group and John D from Arcade1up responded: "We understand the complaints and are doing something about it. Please stay tuned and thanks for the feedback!"

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So I would take that as admission that this cabinet controls/game selection/controls/screen orientation is a mistake.

It's a shame too, because the cabinet itself is a nice design. In my mind, this is a bigger mistake than the Asteroids spinner. At least the asteroids cabinet could faithfully play Asteroids. This cabinet makes compromises all the way around. Either the screen is squished, or the controls aren't correct - nothing is faithfully reproduced. This cabinet needs to be modded, just so it can play games well. 

negative1:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 22, 2020, 06:16:15 pm ---
So I would take that as admission that this cabinet controls/game selection/controls/screen orientation is a mistake.

It's a shame too, because the cabinet itself is a nice design. In my mind, this is a bigger mistake than the Asteroids spinner. At least the asteroids cabinet could faithfully play Asteroids. This cabinet makes compromises all the way around. Either the screen is squished, or the controls aren't correct - nothing is faithfully reproduced. This cabinet needs to be modded, just so it can play games well.

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the basic problem has been that there is no one at arcade 1up, that actually knows anything about arcade games.
they don't know the titles, and they don't know how to play them.

they don't know what the proper controls are, and they don't know how they are actually supposed to be played.

the thing is, that 99% of people don't care, and aren't actually any good at these games.

so they can keep trying to get away with putting out things, that are collectors items, instead of machines,
that are used for playing.

there is still a vast majority of people that play these games that aren't any good, and wouldn't know a 4 way joystick
vs 8 way, even if you hit them over the head with it.

i can't get to the slow boards on burgertime, but some people can. i'm sure i would complain if i was an expert.
but can you really tell me that people will complain if that isn't in the game either.

they don't care. this is a slight admission because a few youtube influencers can't play the game properly.

i used to report tons of bugs in the atari games early on, and the vast majority of them have never been
fixed. (to be fair, some were originally like that in the arcade versions, but fixed in emulators released on consoles).

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negative1:
information about burgertime fix:



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