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| wp34:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 13, 2019, 01:35:37 pm ---That being said Hound vs Mountain was pretty good. I particularly liked when the Mountain smashed that creepy ex miester's head in. It leaved a lot of un-answered questions though, namely wtf did they do to the mountain to make him indestructible. What few Arya x Hound scenes we got were pure gold. --- End quote --- That might be my favorite scene from this season. The Cleganebowl lived up to the hype for sure! |
| opt2not:
Except, is the Mountain done? I mean, the guy took a blade through the brain and it didn't even phase him. How is a tower fall into fire going to stop him? The guy is a Terminator. I mostly agree with Howard's points (except about Dany, they really only used 2 episodes and a handful of hints to question the Mad Queen storyline). But I'm really disappointed in they way they closed off Jaime and Cerci's story. Jaime should have had either a good ending, or a history repeating itself ending where he gains the additional title of Queen Slayer. He should have been the one to off Cerci, in some execution style offing, not death by circumstance. Cerci has been the ultimate baddie of the show, and her death was not satisfying at all for the wrongs she has done. Arya traveling all that way with the pretense that she accepted her fate and was going to kill Cerci and face a noble death trying, gets completely unraveled after the Hound spouts off a couple lines? I didn't buy it. They had Arya set as one of the ultimate badasses of the show, then by the end they just let her persona change out of a couple episodes. Jon is going to off Dany, in some dramatic sorrow scene where he has to make a choice between love for her, or for the good of the realm. |
| Titchgamer:
--- Quote from: opt2not on May 13, 2019, 02:14:35 pm ---Except, is the Mountain done? I mean, the guy took a blade through the brain and it didn't even phase him. How is a tower fall into fire going to stop him? The guy is a Terminator. I mostly agree with Howard's points (except about Dany, they really only used 2 episodes and a handful of hints to question the Mad Queen storyline). But I'm really disappointed in they way they closed off Jaime and Cerci's story. Jaime should have had either a good ending, or a history repeating itself ending where he gains the additional title of Queen Slayer. He should have been the one to off Cerci, in some execution style offing, not death by circumstance. Cerci has been the ultimate baddie of the show, and her death was not satisfying at all for the wrongs she has done. Arya traveling all that way with the pretense that she accepted her fate and was going to kill Cerci and face a noble death trying, gets completely unraveled after the Hound spouts off a couple lines? I didn't buy it. They had Arya set as one of the ultimate badasses of the show, then by the end they just let her persona change out of a couple episodes. Jon is going to off Dany, in some dramatic sorrow scene where he has to make a choice between love for her, or for the good of the realm. --- End quote --- Totally agree with all these points. The only other thing I could possibly see is Arya stealth killing Dany for all the innocents shes killed. |
| Howard_Casto:
There were multiple times throughout the show where she's been shown to be ruthless and unreasonable... you know, the exact opposite of John Snow, which was kind of the point. Ruthless and unreasonable are big warning signs in regards to how she'll rule. Arya wasn't supposed to die. The only reason she followed the Hound was because she saw him going off alone and knew what he was about to do. Seemed pretty obvious to me. She'll have a part to play in the final episode but her arc was all about letting go of her stupid hit list so it'd make zero sense for her to die over Cerci when the battle was already won. I think you guys might have confused the fact that she doesn't fall into typical gender norms with her desire to keep being an assassin. She's not a "lady"... that's why she refused the Barthian boy, not because of her vendetta. Like I said, the Arya x Hound scenes were pure gold...there's really no debating that. |
| wp34:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 13, 2019, 03:16:56 pm --- Arya wasn't supposed to die. The only reason she followed the Hound was because she saw him going off alone and knew what he was about to do. Seemed pretty obvious to me. She'll have a part to play in the final episode but her arc was all about letting go of her stupid hit list so it'd make zero sense for her to die over Cerci when the battle was already won. I think you guys might have confused the fact that she doesn't fall into typical gender norms with her desire to keep being an assassin. She's not a "lady"... that's why she refused the Barthian boy, not because of her vendetta. --- End quote --- That is not at all how I saw it but it is the best explanation I've seen for Arya's turning back. --- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 13, 2019, 03:16:56 pm --- Like I said, the Arya x Hound scenes were pure gold...there's really no debating that. --- End quote --- 100% agree. |
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