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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 02, 2019, 01:47:13 pm ---
Theon was destined to die the minute he betrayed the Starks so many seasons ago. The only way he could truly be redeemed was to die defending the starks, which he did. If he could give his brother 30 more seconds of life by charging, that's what he was going to do. He'd been a coward in every battle thus far, but he stared death in the face and tried to kick his ass. Full redemption, arc completed.

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He has been a coward ever since he had his twig and berries lopped off.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: Malenko on May 02, 2019, 07:40:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 02, 2019, 01:47:13 pm ---Theon was destined to die the minute he betrayed the Starks so many seasons ago. The only way he could truly be redeemed was to die defending the starks, which he did. If he could give his brother 30 more seconds of life by charging, that's what he was going to do.

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We dont disagree on any of this. Arya using that choice for an opening makes more sense than waiting for him to kill Theon , then waiting for BrandFlakes and Old Blue Eyes to have a staring contest for a bit, then finally trying to kill him.

Everything just feels a little ham fisted right now. I'm pot committed at this point so no matter how dumb and anti climactic the last 3 episodes are, I'll watch em.

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Well we didn't see what happened from her perspective. It very well could be that she just got there when she did her batman leap of death. Lots of zombies and a frikkin berserker zombie dragon after all.

I'm excited about the last few eps, but I'm more interested to see how much of a train wreck the spin offs are going to be. HBO put it's hopes on west world to be their next killer show and while it's doing well it doesn't seem to be GOT level's of popular. They are going to push the spinoffs HARD. Also excited to see Deadwood return, even for a belated half-assed movie. It's the show that started it all after all.

javeryh:
Thoughts on episode 4? I thought it was good character interactions for the most part even though it felt really rushed and characters were just appearing all over Westeros for the sake of the plot.

wp34:

--- Quote from: javeryh on May 06, 2019, 07:36:07 pm ---Thoughts on episode 4? I thought it was good character interactions for the most part even though it felt really rushed and characters were just appearing all over Westeros for the sake of the plot.

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It was an odd episode. I can't really say I disliked it but it did not do a lot for me. The characters seem to be making decisions more inline with moving the plot where it needs to go versus how you would expect. Dani in particular is making uncharacteristically bad strategic decisions.

I agree it felt a little rushed. Really the last two seasons have felt rushed but I'm not sure that could be avoided given the number of episodes they gave themselves to finished.

Mike A:
I don't understand how people keep saying the plot is rushed and characters are just moving the plot along and in the next sentence say hey good show. After the show outpaced the books it totally sucks. It is badly written garbage.

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