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KenToad:

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--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 17, 2020, 01:02:38 am ---Duct tape your phone to the barrel of the gun and play something with the cursor on so we can see the cursor following the gun in real time. 

Also if you guys are going to do troubleshooting, ect you might want to start a new thread.

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Thats basically what I did a page or 2 back?

The problem is it does not really work doing it in games as the mame mouse crosshair lags.

The shots are fine but the crosshair lags behind a little so I find it very distracting and does not look right.

The other thing I have noticed about the mame crosshair is its not always accurate to where the mouse actually is.
I am not sure if this is a new issue or not (never noticed it before) but it only seems to affect certain games.

For instance Deer Hunt, I calibrated the gun in the games in service menu which was fine and the gun shot where I was aiming.
But when I turned the crosshairs on to try something it was wayyy off to the side.
But the gun was still shooting accurately so that was a bit wierd.
I can only assume the crosshair is relative to the windows mouse and not the calibrated mame mouse?

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What about games with built in crosshairs like T2? Does that lag?

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Hmm not sure I didnt really spend any time with T2 as its a positional gun game.

Although I didnt really notice any tbh.

Its very noticeable on somthing fast like point blank where you shoot a target on the left, then right and by the time you are on the 3rd target the crosshairs not made it to the 2nd lol

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I don't get why you wouldn't showcase a game like T2. That's exactly the type of game that would be significantly improved by something like the Sinden light gun, since you could play the original arcade version like a proper light gun game for the first time. T2 has been ported to home consoles, but always with huge downgrades. Games like Point Blank and Time Crisis already have perfect or near perfect-playing versions on home consoles with the GunCons.  I'm curious as to what's going on with MAME's crosshairs, but at least a game like T2 with its built-in crosshairs should be able to easily demonstrate the technological leap of the Sinden gun.

KenToad:
This guy does a video and the crosshairs on MAME look pretty wobbly. He also seems to be using the Sinden Lightgun more like a Wiimote.

Titchgamer:
Hmm I would disagree with T2 being a good showcase.

The thing is with positional gun games like T2 they can be played with anything.
A mouse, a joystick, a keyboard, a lightgun they all control it the same as its basicly expecting only Up/Down/Left/Right inputs for the movements. The accuracy of the gun is really irrelevant as you walk the crosshairs onto the target.

Of course with a lightgun you can move faster but thats about it.

I think games like point blank or Sports shooting etc showcase the guns potential better as it requires pin point accuracy (feather/apple on head etc) , speed and control.

But if you really want to see T2 I am sure I can do that :)

As for the video you linked its interesting I was talking to the guy who made it yesterday.
Hes actually playing on a 3 screen virtua pin, He was hoping the crosshairs would add something to the video but now thinks the opposite heh.
I personally find them really distracting as I end up concentrating on them instead of the game or my aim.

 

KenToad:
Well, I was thinking that the built-in crosshairs would quickly track where the Sinden gun was pointing without whatever software issue is causing that lag in the MAME crosshairs.

Titchgamer:

--- Quote from: KenToad on September 17, 2020, 10:52:33 am ---Well, I was thinking that the built-in crosshairs would quickly track where the Sinden gun was pointing without whatever software issue is causing that lag in the MAME crosshairs.

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Hmm well I am not sure its all MAMEs fault tbh, I think a large part of it is the windows mouse speed settings, Obv you dont want to crank em up to lightgun speeds else it would be hard to control heh.

But there is defo somthing odd that mame is doing with the crosshairs.

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