Issue with Point Blank and Aimtrack lightguns

[Traffik]

Hi
I have 2 Aimtrack lightguns in my cabinet, they are both configured using the utility and both work perfectly as mice in Windows, theres nothing wrong with the guns.
For most games in MAME they work fine, but Point Blank is giving me grief.... if I start a 1 player game then gun1 works perfectly, if I start a 2 player game gun2 works perfectly but gun1 wont fire, it trakcs on screen, I can see the crosshair, but the trigger doesnt work.
I have tried a fresh install of MAME, Ive tried replacing the Namco ROMS, the ptblank ROM, deleted and remade the mame.ini, deleted and remade the ptblank.cfg file. I just cant get this working. Funny thing is, it USED to work but I have absolutely no idea why its decided to stop now.....

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[Titchgamer]

Sounds like a control mapping issue to me.

Prob got gun 1 and 2 set as the same trigger?

Press tab and reconfigure each gun in the game settings.

[Traffik]

Sounds like a control mapping issue to me.

Prob got gun 1 and 2 set as the same trigger?

Press tab and reconfigure each gun in the game settings.

Yeah tried that, several times. Tried setting the triggers to mouse, to buttons, tried swapping everything around and back and forth several times. It's driving me crazy!

[Titchgamer]

Sounds like a control mapping issue to me.

Prob got gun 1 and 2 set as the same trigger?

Press tab and reconfigure each gun in the game settings.

Yeah tried that, several times. Tried setting the triggers to mouse, to buttons, tried swapping everything around and back and forth several times. It's driving me crazy!

I mean in mame itself not the AT utility.

Any changes made via the ingame tab menu will overwrite any mame universal settings.

[Traffik]

Sounds like a control mapping issue to me.

Prob got gun 1 and 2 set as the same trigger?

Press tab and reconfigure each gun in the game settings.

Yeah tried that, several times. Tried setting the triggers to mouse, to buttons, tried swapping everything around and back and forth several times. It's driving me crazy!

I mean in mame itself not the AT utility.

Any changes made via the ingame tab menu will overwrite any mame universal settings.

Yeah I know, I've done that. I've even tried mapping the side buttons as well but nothing works

[Titchgamer]

Presume you have tried swapping the gun ID’s as well?

[Traffik]

Ah no I haven't tried that!
I'll give it a go when I get back from work later.
Thanks!

[Traffik]

I changed the IDs for both guns, loaded Point Blank and reconfigured the inputs ingame.
Still doesnt work.......

[Traffik]

Thing is both guns work as mice prefectly in Windows, both left and right click work, also some games in MAME work as well, its just Point Blank and a couple of others...

[Titchgamer]

Thing is both guns work as mice prefectly in Windows, both left and right click work, also some games in MAME work as well, its just Point Blank and a couple of others...

Just had a thought, Is there any settings in the service menu?

What other games do you have problems with?

[Traffik]

OK so Ive been through every lightgun game I have, Area51, Bang, Carnevil, Police Trainer etc etc et
Point Blank 1, Point Blank 2 and Space Gun all exhibit this behaviour where the trigger on gun 1 doesnt work during a 2 player game.
Strangely, in the service menus where there is a button test, everything registers, all the triggers, everything, but when in a 2 player game the trigger on gun1 stops working.
Like I said before, gun1 trigger works if in a 1 player game but not in a 2 player simultaneous game.

Im lost.....

[Titchgamer]

That really is very bizarre....

Sorry mate I am out of ideas, Have you contacted Andy at Ultimarc?
He may have a answer for you.

If you find out though please update us

[Traffik]

Im almost certain its not a gun issue. I have tried mapping the fire button to various keys not on the gun but on my keyboard, even that doesnt work.
Im still trying to figure it out, if I sort it Ill post back with the solution.

thanks for your help mate

[Traffik]

Ok Ive fired up my other PC which has never had my lightguns anywhere near it, or MAME either for that matter.
I installed a fresh download of MAME and the ptblank and namcoc75 roms, all fresh downloads so no copying over from my other machine.
I didnt install the lightguns, I just tested the firing buttons using my standard keyboard.
I built the mame.ini and only left it all at default, put the roms in the default folder, this really is as vanilla as it gets.
Ran the game, assigned key Z to player 1 button 1, assigned key X to player 2 button 1, and guess what.... it still doesnt work.
Im thinking Point Blank is NOT afterall a 2 player simultaneous game.... am I right or does anyone have it working?

[Traffik]

Oh God I feel like such an idiot!
I got it working.... ignore me Im just a donut!
Problem all along was I was pressing only 2 player start assuming that it would start a 2 player game, it does not, it starts a 1 player game using player 2 controls. Player 1 crosshair still shows up on screen..... doh!

[Titchgamer]

PMSL!!

Sorry I found that really funny! Literally nearly just spat my tea out!!

Glad you sorted!

[Traffik]

PMSL!!

Sorry I found that really funny! Literally nearly just spat my tea out!!

Glad you sorted!