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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #440 on: January 20, 2019, 03:27:12 pm »
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same.  I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box.  If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC.  There is more than one, smarty pants. 

Then maybe you should say something other than "UPC is Trackable !" SInce that statement is completely wrong

And Again you say in this post
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There is more than one

No there is not -- THere is no such thing as a MAIN UPC --- there is one and only one UPC for each product --  Sure there may be shipping/routing information added to the box by Walmart or Gamestop etc. at their warehouse but that is not a UPC Code and is not printed on the product box and those are easily removed from the A1U boxes that have the Glossy coating on them if they do exist !

Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already.  Is that possible I wonder?  ::)

Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00  Bait and switch tactics?  Still pretty cheap for what you get.

It's not our combined stupidity that is showing in the thread - but maybe you do not notice it since that might require not being intellectually challenged !

ANd No the price is still $149 until Feb 2nd -- WHen you add it to the cart it will add a $50 discount making the price $149 ( but that might be challenging for you to figure out ! )

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Funny. My plan is to point people to this thread when he tries to proclaim he admits his mistakes.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #441 on: January 20, 2019, 07:04:42 pm »
If you're doing a custom control panel, and want to fiber wrap it:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YLFUFLY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_s6prCbG68WMD9

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #442 on: January 20, 2019, 07:09:43 pm »
this site has options for the control panel,
precut plexiglass,, t-molding, bat stick, buttons, etc:



https://www.diyretroarcade.com/index.php/arcade1up-birch-two-player-control-deck.html

the will have other templates at a future point.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #443 on: January 20, 2019, 10:14:59 pm »
Yeah nice idea I had and someone rolled with it.  Good for them.

I got mine cut already with some m&m overlay.  Just need some plexi.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #444 on: January 21, 2019, 02:46:01 am »
Using the Stock Pac-Man board, I've done the USB hack, and UART hack,
and am running tests on the MAME from Rampage v.101, almost all the
games run, you see some graphical glitches due to the keyboard mapping though.



Detailed information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/

Gauntlet is missing a graphics layer, so that's why it runs through Retroarch.

Anyways, everything is running off a USB stick, mounted as drive.
I mapped some keys to a USB keyboard, and all joystick to the Pac-Man joystick,
and action to Player 1 start:

MAME functions work great
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all audio mapping, volume works
video rotation works, scaling works
video features work - brightness, contrast, gamma
Savestates - Saving and Loading works
Dipswitches - works
Pause works

Some functions are persistent across reboots
Still testing - cheats [should work]
              - analog controls [USB mouse/trackball/spinner]


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #445 on: January 21, 2019, 05:41:53 am »
I am not arguing the fact that all UPCs on a product is the same.  I'm arguing that if you take an 1Up arcade that you bought from game stop to Walmart you would be stopped because of the traceable UPC on the box.  If you read back the thread it is you/lew/smass/whoever assumed it was the main UPC.  There is more than one, smarty pants. 

Then maybe you should say something other than "UPC is Trackable !" SInce that statement is completely wrong

And Again you say in this post
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There is more than one

No there is not -- THere is no such thing as a MAIN UPC --- there is one and only one UPC for each product --  Sure there may be shipping/routing information added to the box by Walmart or Gamestop etc. at their warehouse but that is not a UPC Code and is not printed on the product box and those are easily removed from the A1U boxes that have the Glossy coating on them if they do exist !

Let's go back on topic, as you all have used up all your combined stupidity for one thread already.  Is that possible I wonder?  ::)

Game stop has raised the Asteroids back up to $199.00  Bait and switch tactics?  Still pretty cheap for what you get.

It's not our combined stupidity that is showing in the thread - but maybe you do not notice it since that might require not being intellectually challenged !

ANd No the price is still $149 until Feb 2nd -- WHen you add it to the cart it will add a $50 discount making the price $149 ( but that might be challenging for you to figure out ! )

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$50 off the Arcade1UP: Asteroids Cabinet! Some exclusions apply. Applicable to physical in-stock items ONLY. Offer valid 1/17/19 - 2/2/19. GameStop, Inc. reserves the right to cancel, terminate, modify or suspend the offer for any reason without notice.

Funny. My plan is to point people to this thread when he tries to proclaim he admits his mistakes.

Go build a cabinet and quit acting like a child.  It is far better than trying to micro manage my posts.  Seriously I am not worth all the time and effort.  I am for anything that doesn't include derailing your own thread.  Nice to know I can get $50 off that cabinet.  If that is the case then you can get a price match off walmart.  Seriously Lew, go and dazzle us with your woodworking skills.  Something awesome.  :applaud:
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #446 on: January 21, 2019, 05:45:46 am »
Using the Stock Pac-Man board, I've done the USB hack, and UART hack,
and am running tests on the MAME from Rampage v.101, almost all the
games run, you see some graphical glitches due to the keyboard mapping though.



Detailed information here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Arcade1Up/comments/a02870/hack_original_board_not_just_replace_w_pietc/

Gauntlet is missing a graphics layer, so that's why it runs through Retroarch.

Anyways, everything is running off a USB stick, mounted as drive.
I mapped some keys to a USB keyboard, and all joystick to the Pac-Man joystick,
and action to Player 1 start:

MAME functions work great
----------------------------
all audio mapping, volume works
video rotation works, scaling works
video features work - brightness, contrast, gamma
Savestates - Saving and Loading works
Dipswitches - works
Pause works

Some functions are persistent across reboots
Still testing - cheats [should work]
              - analog controls [USB mouse/trackball/spinner]


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Nice work.  Looks like 1Up was wanting an expansion kit down the road.  What the heck is this moo emulator?
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #447 on: January 21, 2019, 11:31:49 am »

Nice work.  Looks like 1Up was wanting an expansion kit down the road.  What the heck is this moo emulator?

The MOO emulator is their proprietary emulator that is built to run dedicated ROMS.
It is used in other products like the Atgames classic console also.

It can be configured to run multiple games, and it is what all the new version 2 cabinets will be running.
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Features:
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Command line parameters: g# = Game Number
P#   = Pixel Scaling (default P1 P1 = Even Pixels (game has blank area around edge, pixels are evenly sized P2 = Full Screen (game has blank area around edge, pixels are irregularly sized)))

L# = enable/disable local save (default L1 L1 = Load local saved state (if it exists from ./docs/gamename.sav.zip If no local save exists, fixed save state will be loaded from ./zassets/gamename.save.zip Local game state will be saved to ./docs/gamename.sav.zip when exiting game via (1P-START) button.))

L0 = Never load or save local game state.

O# = Orientation of Screen (default O1 O1 = Top of Game on RIGHT of normal monitor (monitor should be LEFT SIDE DOWN O3 = Top of Game on LEFT of normal monitor (monitor should be RIGHT SIDE DOWN)))

-mode screensaver: instant exit from any button press

In-Game Features EXIT: Hold (1P-START for 3 seconds (if local save is enabled, saves local save to ./docs* RESET: Hold (2P-START) for 3 seconds (loads fixed save state from ./zassets)*))
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #448 on: January 22, 2019, 05:06:12 pm »
More clearance, SF2 and Asteroids at target for $249:


Asteroids is still $150 Online at Gamestop.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #449 on: January 22, 2019, 11:04:10 pm »
Add brightness control to stock LCD:



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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #450 on: January 23, 2019, 09:43:01 am »
I don't think it is worth going to jail for.  The UPC is trackable.

Um,  that's not how UPC works...

>facepalm<

EDIT: Nevermind,  already covered ... even though you AGAIN used the term UPC Traceable (no such thing).


BTW - I wouldn't suggest anyone do such a thing anyway,  as the negative karma isn't worth it... plus,  lets be 100% honest... who in their right mind (other than folks with kids) would want one of these ---smurfy--- little machines?   The mind boggles...

...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box.  Yay!   Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...

EDIT: Man,  re-reading this post and I sure come off strong.  It's hard not to though... garbage in garbage out.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #451 on: January 23, 2019, 10:53:33 am »
...and modding these toys is akin to modding a Pandoras Box.  Yay!   Sort of the same mindframe as the guy who takes a $1200 Honda Civic with a 1400cc engine and mods the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of it to drop his drag time from 20.3 seconds to 19.5...


A very good example there, Frizz
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #452 on: January 23, 2019, 11:05:25 am »
well not everyone has access to a garage to house a shite-ton of arcade cabs so these fit in well for those with limited space.

At $100 and a few bucks for some mods this is perfect for me and my space limited retreat.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #453 on: January 23, 2019, 01:05:33 pm »
well not everyone has access to a garage to house a shite-ton of arcade cabs so these fit in well for those with limited space.

At $100 and a few bucks for some mods this is perfect for me and my space limited retreat.







...just a few examples of how y'all could "keep it real"...

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #454 on: January 23, 2019, 01:08:03 pm »
Plus... isn't this the site where folks are encouraged to build their own?  I mean,  wouldn't it be way more satisfying building your own arcade cabinet (any size you wish,  hell,  stick with a standard layout ... say Midway ... then reduce to 2/3 size or something... I've seen more than one do it here (and the result was fanstastic).

Just not "getting" it I suppose.  Again,  for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD.  WHO plays classic games on an LCD?  Meh...
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #455 on: January 23, 2019, 01:13:48 pm »
Yeah. A Pac-man cabaret is the same width as a 1up cab. The big difference is that the CP and monitor are at a reasonable height on a cabaret. The space argument is weak.

You could build a nice cabaret instead of modding a 1up turd.


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #456 on: January 23, 2019, 01:26:03 pm »
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)

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« Reply #457 on: January 23, 2019, 01:33:25 pm »
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)

Building ones own arcade cabinet affords one teh ability to choose whatever design they would want.  There ARE some decent looking cabaret cabinets though (Centipede/DigDug being a great example... they even use 19" monitors)...



I sort of dig the Galaga ones as well...

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #458 on: January 23, 2019, 01:39:07 pm »
the asteroids game has Asteroids deluxe, and street fighter 2 CE on it.



you can access those through the USB hack.

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« Reply #459 on: January 23, 2019, 01:40:54 pm »
the asteroids game has Asteroids deluxe, and street fighter 2 CE on it.

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« Reply #460 on: January 23, 2019, 01:41:20 pm »
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Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box.

If you build your own it can be as snazzy as you want.

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« Reply #461 on: January 23, 2019, 01:42:57 pm »
This was just posted over on KLOV... it's facebook (yeah,  it sucks) but it's' not on youtube yet.

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« Reply #462 on: January 23, 2019, 01:54:29 pm »
Not trying to dis cabaret format cabs in general, but the aesthetics of those units are pretty weak. They obviously heralded from a time where the game was the primary draw, and it didn't matter if it was housed in a cardboard box. :)
I disagree with this generalization. Like full-sized cabs, the designs can be hit or miss.

The Williams cabarets are probably ranked the best looking out all cabaret designs. Robotron, for example has a great looking design that doesn't feel like they had to make concessions because of the size of the cabinet.



Unlike Pacman or some of the Taito cabinets:




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« Reply #463 on: January 23, 2019, 02:04:12 pm »
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« Reply #464 on: January 23, 2019, 02:05:28 pm »
Of course the Neo-Geo mini simply kicks ass... just because... (and yeah,  it's freakin' TINY)...

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« Reply #465 on: January 23, 2019, 02:07:15 pm »
Great insights, Frizz. Glad to see you and Sprydon (sp) checking in
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« Reply #466 on: January 23, 2019, 02:36:29 pm »
ya those cabarets you posted look like absolute --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- - no offence !!

Plus... isn't this the site where folks are encouraged to build their own?  I mean,  wouldn't it be way more satisfying building your own arcade cabinet (any size you wish,  hell,  stick with a standard layout ... say Midway ... then reduce to 2/3 size or something... I've seen more than one do it here (and the result was fanstastic).

Just not "getting" it I suppose.  Again,  for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD.  WHO plays classic games on an LCD?  Meh...

this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ??  point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.

And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument

I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?

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« Reply #467 on: January 23, 2019, 02:43:14 pm »
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this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ??  point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.

And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument

I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?

Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.

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« Reply #468 on: January 23, 2019, 02:45:34 pm »

I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?


Stupid comparison. Old movies weren't designed for VHS, they were shot on film and it wasn't until Blu-ray and HD that home video was able to come close to recreating the detail captured on 35mm film.

Old games, on the other hand, had graphics designed based on how they would look on the CRT displays that were in use, and usually end up looking like crap on an LCD.

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« Reply #469 on: January 23, 2019, 02:48:37 pm »
+1 imaginary rep to Osirus23. You hit the nail right on the head.


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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #470 on: January 23, 2019, 03:06:49 pm »

Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.

this is a build your own controls forum is it not ?  I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.

$100 got me a small cabinet that fits into my space along with side art that would have cost a lot more otherwise.


I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?


Stupid comparison. Old movies weren't designed for VHS, they were shot on film and it wasn't until Blu-ray and HD that home video was able to come close to recreating the detail captured on 35mm film.

Old games, on the other hand, had graphics designed based on how they would look on the CRT displays that were in use, and usually end up looking like crap on an LCD.

weak argument maybe but i personally prefer newer flatscreens so there is that

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #471 on: January 23, 2019, 03:19:07 pm »
I disagree with this generalization.

Somehow you managed to find a generalization in a post where said generalization was specifically denied in the first sentence.  "A1UP thread itchy-trigger-finger" syndrome? :)

I know there are good looking cabarets and would like to own one myself.  Those weren't one of them.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #472 on: January 23, 2019, 03:20:41 pm »

Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.

this is a build your own controls forum is it not ?  I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.

He must be a newb who's never heard of modding.

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weak argument maybe but i personally prefer newer flatscreens so there is that
In general, sure, but have you seen a side-by-side comparison with games made for a CRT?  If not, you really should make an effort to do so.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #473 on: January 23, 2019, 03:26:41 pm »
Somehow you managed to find a generalization in a post where said generalization was specifically denied in the first sentence.
Well you did negate your generalization denial by the second half of that first sentence, and the following sentence after that.  :cheers:

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #474 on: January 23, 2019, 03:28:23 pm »
In general, sure, but have you seen a side-by-side comparison for games made for a CRT?  If not, you really should make an effort to do so.

Great point. I get the feeling that many people automatically think newer is better. In this case, it isn’t.
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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #475 on: January 23, 2019, 03:28:45 pm »
Well you did negate your generalization denial by the second half of that first sentence, and the following sentence after that.  :cheers:

How so?

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #476 on: January 23, 2019, 03:31:08 pm »
Of course the Neo-Geo mini simply kicks ass... just because... (and yeah,  it's freakin' TINY)...

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #477 on: January 23, 2019, 03:31:54 pm »

Why are you here then? Take your 100 bucks and go buy a turd machine.

this is a build your own controls forum is it not ?  I do plan on building my own controls for this turd not that its any of your business.
Good for you fella. Just don't bother posting about your BYOAC plans here on this public forum, because it's "none of our business".   ::)

I'll reiterate the question again, "why are you here then?"

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #478 on: January 23, 2019, 03:34:02 pm »
Yeah cabarets suck.  It's not just the lack of artwork, but rather the shape of them and the monitor angle.  At least for 90% of them.  The ones that look good are kind of rare and kind of expensive, so I don't see how they factor into a argument about buying them over a very inexpensive alternative.  If you are putting a lot of money into these toys though you are really just turd polishing. 


I don't think it's cool to berate people for liking them.  Unless I could get a killer discount they just aren't for me.... too flimsy for the price, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give people a hard time for feeling otherwise.

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Re: Arcade1up Clearance Sale
« Reply #479 on: January 23, 2019, 03:36:53 pm »
ya those cabarets you posted look like absolute --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- - no offence !!

Plus... isn't this the site where folks are encouraged to build their own?  I mean,  wouldn't it be way more satisfying building your own arcade cabinet (any size you wish,  hell,  stick with a standard layout ... say Midway ... then reduce to 2/3 size or something... I've seen more than one do it here (and the result was fanstastic).

Just not "getting" it I suppose.  Again,  for kids... sure... but there is so much "garbage" involved with these things it's just not worth it... starting with the damn LCD.  WHO plays classic games on an LCD?  Meh...

this site was made back in when - 19-fish and chips ??  point is these options for $100 werent available until this year so i would much rather have one of these than one of those cabarets.

And i grew up in the 70's/80's in the arcade and i really dont get this LCD/CRT argument

I mean i know it is a hot spot here on these forums but to me this is silly - i mean do you watch old movies on VHS or do you watch the newly re-mastered ones on blu-ray ?



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