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Windows 10 - worse performance?
Zebra:
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--- Quote from: Mike A on October 07, 2018, 08:34:37 am ---Give me a freakin' break. I am partners in a warehouse business. We have 11 PCs all running Windows 10. I do all of the IT stuff. I have zero qualifications for that. The graphics and web guys use Photoshop. Other than them we do standard office stuff. I have a PC at home. My son is a gamer and dabbler with music on his PC. My daughter is in college and she has a laptop. They all run Windows 10. None of these computers has so much as hiccuped since the switch to Windows 10. I know some people have issues, but quit overblowing it. You act like Windows 10 PCs explode if you look at them funny.
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I stopped using Windows when 95 came out. I instantly wanted to roll back to win 3 and dos. It’s what drove me to using Mac and experimenting with Linux. Fast forward 18 years, version 10 I’ve actually been happy with. My hate for m$oft has been softened.
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I'm having the reverse experience. After avoiding Linux like the Black Death my whole life, I tried it recently to run my CNC machine. I was surprised to find that it ran better, faster and with less issues than Windows. I was equally surprised by how Windows-like and easy to use modern Linux builds are.
Microsoft is driving me mad at the moment. I feel like I am forever dealing with Windows related issues. Last week it decided that my legit Windows 7 pro had become illegitimate after I switched my GPU (which they decided made it a different machine). It forced me to waste hours searching for my product key that I wrote down 8 years ago...
Also, Windows is constantly driving me mad asking me to update stuff that I don't care about, with no perceivable benefit after the updates...
I can see a time where Linux catches up to and surpasses Windows. They are even making modern PC games available to work in Linux and many run just as well as in Windows. Once every game works in Linux as well as Windows, there may be no further need to pay for new operating systems...
For most people, the only thing better than "perfect" is "free".
keilmillerjr:
--- Quote from: Zebra on October 07, 2018, 03:56:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: keilmillerjr on October 07, 2018, 09:29:47 am ---
--- Quote from: Mike A on October 07, 2018, 08:34:37 am ---Give me a freakin' break. I am partners in a warehouse business. We have 11 PCs all running Windows 10. I do all of the IT stuff. I have zero qualifications for that. The graphics and web guys use Photoshop. Other than them we do standard office stuff. I have a PC at home. My son is a gamer and dabbler with music on his PC. My daughter is in college and she has a laptop. They all run Windows 10. None of these computers has so much as hiccuped since the switch to Windows 10. I know some people have issues, but quit overblowing it. You act like Windows 10 PCs explode if you look at them funny.
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I stopped using Windows when 95 came out. I instantly wanted to roll back to win 3 and dos. It’s what drove me to using Mac and experimenting with Linux. Fast forward 18 years, version 10 I’ve actually been happy with. My hate for m$oft has been softened.
--- End quote ---
I'm having the reverse experience. After avoiding Linux like the Black Death my whole life, I tried it recently to run my CNC machine. I was surprised to find that it ran better, faster and with less issues than Windows. I was equally surprised by how Windows-like and easy to use modern Linux builds are.
Microsoft is driving me mad at the moment. I feel like I am forever dealing with Windows related issues. Last week it decided that my legit Windows 7 pro had become illegitimate after I switched my GPU (which they decided made it a different machine). It forced me to waste hours searching for my product key that I wrote down 8 years ago...
Also, Windows is constantly driving me mad asking me to update stuff that I don't care about, with no perceivable benefit after the updates...
I can see a time where Linux catches up to and surpasses Windows. They are even making modern PC games available to work in Linux and many run just as well as in Windows. Once every game works in Linux as well as Windows, there may be no further need to pay for new operating systems...
For most people, the only thing better than "perfect" is "free".
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Keep your eyes on Ubuntu. It’s window manager is extremely user friendly. The only thing really keeping it from squeezing in with the top two is people not willing to try something new. Apple did a smart thing business wise, trying to grasp windows users. It worked. Mac OS has some bloat now. Grr. What CNC machine are you using with linux? I work at smith and wesson. We have a few hundred cnc machines. All running windows. I was super pissed off with this machine today running windows 2000 and the data drive got corrupted. Have to bring in the big boys now. They don’t believe in read only file systems I guess.
Mike A:
no backup?
Paradroid:
--- Quote from: Zebra on October 07, 2018, 03:56:03 pm ---I can see a time where Linux catches up to and surpasses Windows.
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Interesting... I probably would have said the same thing a few years back. However, I work for a company that is one of the biggest Microsoft customers in New Zealand and, based on what I hear and see, more competitive licensing and greater innovation from Microsoft in recent times have are stopped a lot of the open source talk in the corporate world.
But, yeah, work aside, I tried GroovyMAME with the latest Windows 10 and W10 sucked for that.
Calamity:
IMHO the best "classic" Windows version is 8.1. All the things that people liked of 10 were already there in 8.1, it's just that because everybody skipped 8 nobody knew that. And 8.1 is free of most of 10 annoyances, e.g. spyware, Cortana, update tyranny, etc.
What I've always liked of Windows is its solid backwards compatibility. E.g. I have a game I coded in 2008 that runs perfectly on Windows 10. That's 10 years later. No need to recompile. No problems with missing libraries, etc. I fear Windows may be moving away from that tradition in order to be more Linux-like.
Linux is totally different in my experience. Apps are compiled using some version of the system libraries, and often don't work after a few major system updates. I was shocked about this when I was involved in Groovy Arcade, I mean, coming from the Windows enviroment I was so used to the other way of thinking that I assumed we were doing something wrong and that Linux couldn't really be that way.
Then of course after having had experience with Android I understand this a bit more. Each Android device has a customized version of it, to deal with different hardware architectures. Now think of Windows, where a single OS binary works on thousands of different hardware configurations.
I mean, of course Windows has the same issues with libraries (e.g. visual c++ redistributables), but it is handled in a way that the user is not forced to update the whole os.
Now people are bombed with continuous updates of everything, my wife says it's a conspiracy. Windows 10 has become the same. The last two major updates didn't go well on my laptop, I wasted two days with the last one. Now it's working fine after a fresh reinstall, but man, do I need to this a twice a year?. I want a computer not a pet.