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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #240 on: August 16, 2018, 05:39:31 pm »
These are great for just about everyone but us.

I still plan on getting a couple. Already I prefer the form factor over a bartop.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #241 on: August 16, 2018, 07:38:02 pm »
I love how he compares the audio on the cabinet to a remastered console version.

Oh well, still cool.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #242 on: August 16, 2018, 09:43:23 pm »
I love how he compares the audio on the cabinet to a remastered console version.

Oh well, still cool.

well people are still selling retro consoles with a raspberry pi inside for $200 so I doubt they will end up with an overstock on these.
It is funny to hear them try to sell them to people.
kind of like late night infomercials where they try to sell you a new and improved spoon and show people mortally wounding themselves with regular spoons to show how awesome their product is.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #243 on: August 22, 2018, 01:18:32 am »

kind of like late night infomercials where they try to sell you a new and improved spoon and show people mortally wounding themselves with regular spoons to show how awesome their product is.


This forum format is so behind the times.....

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #244 on: August 22, 2018, 08:56:29 am »
Someone finally posted a youtube video with a pic of the internals for the CP and System PCB ( at least gives a couple shots of the parts around the 2:00 mark) --

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Looks like they are using normal joystick/button wiring that runs to a control board  that then uses a ribbon cable to run the control wiring to the system board directly (mounted to the back of the monitor as expected) - so modding it with a new display and/or raspberry pi/PC shouldn't be too difficult.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #245 on: August 22, 2018, 09:31:30 am »
Someone finally posted a youtube video with a pic of the internals for the CP and System PCB ( at least gives a couple shots of the parts around the 2:00 mark) --

! No longer available

Looks like they are using normal joystick/button wiring that runs to a control board  that then uses a ribbon cable to run the control wiring to the system board directly (mounted to the back of the monitor as expected) - so modding it with a new display and/or raspberry pi/PC shouldn't be too difficult.
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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #246 on: August 22, 2018, 09:41:30 am »
She's freakin' annoying. I couldn't get through more than a minute of that garbage.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #247 on: August 22, 2018, 10:11:58 am »
She's freakin' annoying. I couldn't get through more than a minute of that garbage.

Agreed and not really good at giving any info !! - which is why I posted that the shots of the internals is around the 2 minute mark so you wouldn't have to watch the whole thing -- It's pretty much the only video I've seen so far that shows whats inside the enclosures for the CP and the back of the monitor - so at least it has that.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #248 on: August 22, 2018, 10:13:42 am »
This whole experience has exposed me to a world of "youtube personalities" that do nothing but look at the same website we do yet make a 10 minute video of it.  And there's tons of them.  And the production values are decent.  And they get like 50 views tops.  Although she's getting more, must be that wonderbra.

Didn't see any obvious USB ports on that PCB.




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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #249 on: August 22, 2018, 01:15:05 pm »
YouTube bugmen are the target market for these things so I expect videos of them by the thousand.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #250 on: August 22, 2018, 01:29:30 pm »
I love that these you tubers get these free machines from the company, give a fluff review pointing out only a few minor issues to make it seem like these are unbiased objective reviews.

Saying things like “plays just like the arcade” and “looks identical to the arcade”

Ya an lcd screen looks just like the arcade wells Gardner ..........I don’t think so.

I can’t trust a word they say after that.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #251 on: August 22, 2018, 01:40:32 pm »
This whole experience has exposed me to a world of "youtube personalities" that do nothing but look at the same website we do yet make a 10 minute video of it.  And there's tons of them.  And the production values are decent.  And they get like 50 views tops.  Although she's getting more, must be that wonderbra.

Didn't see any obvious USB ports on that PCB.

It's a dark rabbit hole my friend.  I watch youtube pretty much on my xbox one at this point and it has introduced me to the curse of "suggested videos".  You'll find there are around 30-50 youtube personalities on the tech side of things, probably 20 or so that are relevant, and they cover all the stuff we enjoy, like old video games and 80s/90s pop culture ect. 

Been thinking of monetizing my youtube page and do crappy how-to videos.  My production values would be crap, but I could surely beat a lot of them on content.

Anyway a little more can be gleamed from that 2 second wobbly-cam shot of the pcb…. the lcd driver board is most likely integrated with the pcb. :(  You can tell because there are too many wires going to the lcd.  That means if you are going to hack it, you'll most likely have to get a new monitor as well, and try finding a 17 inch, 4:3 lcd these days. 


I didn't see any obvious serial communication pins either, so it might take some time to hack the included pcb.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #252 on: August 22, 2018, 01:53:38 pm »
If only there was a website dedicated to Building Your Own Arcade Controls.

We could just build an arcade cab the way we want instead of hacking a cheap piece of junk into an approximation of what we want.


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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #253 on: August 22, 2018, 02:21:24 pm »
She's freakin' annoying. I couldn't get through more than a minute of that garbage.
I am allowed to look at babes at work. Just not allowed to watch them with the sound on.

If only there was a website dedicated to Building Your Own Arcade Controls.

We could just build an arcade cab the way we want instead of hacking a cheap piece of junk into an approximation of what we want.
True that. And full size.
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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #254 on: August 22, 2018, 04:08:12 pm »
If only there was a website dedicated to Building Your Own Arcade Controls.

We could just build an arcade cab the way we want instead of hacking a cheap piece of junk into an approximation of what we want.

you get what you pay for, and most casual people are ok with that, and don't have the skills to build an actual cabinet.
i don't, so something that's easy to build is worth the price.

here's some short gameplay footage of:
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street fighter 2
defender
rampage
gauntlet

===========================================



street fighter 2 looks ok.

defender looks tricky with the new layout.

rampage looks cramped.

gauntlet is the 2 player rom, there wasn't a 3 player version....

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #255 on: August 22, 2018, 04:40:58 pm »
If only there was a website dedicated to Building Your Own Arcade Controls.

We could just build an arcade cab the way we want instead of hacking a cheap piece of junk into an approximation of what we want.


Yeah, I'm glad I got to experience this place in its heyday.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #256 on: August 22, 2018, 05:00:18 pm »
If only there was a website dedicated to Building Your Own Arcade Controls.

We could just build an arcade cab the way we want instead of hacking a cheap piece of junk into an approximation of what we want.


Yeah, I'm glad I got to experience this place in its heyday.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #257 on: August 22, 2018, 08:33:53 pm »
Folks, you make more money than I do, and I have individual components in some of my games that cost more than these cabinets.

I'm also old enough to remember how those Williams multicabs went from crap to awesome the second it was revealed some hobbyist had done the PCBs.

But let the hate flow through you....

Good.  Goooooood.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #258 on: August 22, 2018, 09:04:12 pm »
Here's the thing.  It might not be a stellar cabinet with a ton of romz, but you are getting a working cabinet with full side art for the price of just full side art.  I'm not running to the store to buy one, but I am interested enough to update info as it becomes available.  Feel free to ignore it if you aren't interested.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #259 on: August 22, 2018, 09:08:30 pm »
I have a slightly different take on these.  The fact that they are being made at all bodes well for the continuation of interest in Arcade machines.  The world is moving on, not many people outside of our crowd give a damn about them anymore.  If stuff like this raises awareness that these things called arcades used to be around, that you physically hung out in them with your friends away from home and had good times, then yes MORE PLEASE.

My daughter buys and collects vinyl records both old and new and plays them on her turntable.  Sure she has Spotify, but she loves the analogue recordings, the physical albums.  She's no hipster either.  Get young people involved anyway you can, then teach them about the good stuff.

Viva la analogue revolución!

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« Reply #260 on: August 22, 2018, 09:36:47 pm »
Viva la analogue revolución!

On an LCD...  :P

Meh, I don't have any real opinion on these. I wouldn't buy one, but I'd probably give it a good 45 seconds of play if I came across one at a show.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2018, 09:39:27 pm by Nephasth »
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« Reply #261 on: August 22, 2018, 09:41:43 pm »
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Feel free to ignore it if you aren't interested.

Feel free to ignore my comments if you are not interested.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #262 on: August 22, 2018, 09:43:34 pm »
If these were the right height and closer to the shape of the original cabs I think they could be fun as a modding platform. They cut too many corners the way they are now though.

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« Reply #263 on: August 23, 2018, 10:57:22 am »
Viva la analogue revolución!

On an LCD...  :P

Meh, I don't have any real opinion on these. I wouldn't buy one, but I'd probably give it a good 45 seconds of play if I came across one at a show.

Dave & busters near me has a multi classic cabinet with galaga, digdug and a few others I like with an LCD in the lobby.

I'm the only weirdo in the group playing that while everyone else is swiping their card for more credits on the rail shooters.
I'll take an LCD arcade cabinet over most of the games now.
except the LED frenzy game. that's fun.

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« Reply #264 on: August 23, 2018, 01:29:56 pm »
If these were the right height and closer to the shape of the original cabs I think they could be fun as a modding platform. They cut too many corners the way they are now though.

why not just get the kits from other websites (that i'm not allowed post here),
and just build your own that way.

it's already been thought of.

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« Reply #265 on: August 23, 2018, 01:34:14 pm »
I have a slightly different take on these.  The fact that they are being made at all bodes well for the continuation of interest in Arcade machines.  The world is moving on, not many people outside of our crowd give a damn about them anymore.  If stuff like this raises awareness that these things called arcades used to be around, that you physically hung out in them with your friends away from home and had good times, then yes MORE PLEASE.
Personally, I'd like the arcade trend cool off. Prices for cabinets, parts, pcb's have gone crazy lately, and the less people entering the collection scene the lower prices are going to go for owners to off-load their gear.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #266 on: August 23, 2018, 02:27:54 pm »
I don't like the high prices, but I like the fact that the hobby is popular enough to where manufacturers are still selling parts.  There is always a trade-off with these things. 

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« Reply #267 on: August 23, 2018, 02:33:49 pm »
That is a good point Howard. It would be nice if there would have been enough demand to continue manufacturing CRTs. However, it did hurt my wallet pretty good when I bought my Tempest cab.

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Re: Arcade 1Up's Ikea cabinets
« Reply #268 on: August 23, 2018, 02:35:01 pm »
is it me, or does the spinner look kind of big on this picture..



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« Reply #269 on: August 23, 2018, 02:37:04 pm »
is it me, or does the spinner look kind of big on this picture..

Could just be the small size of the CP and cab that make the spinner look bigger !

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« Reply #270 on: August 23, 2018, 02:39:20 pm »
I saw some gameplay vids... the spinner is a tad on the large side.... about as big as the trackball hole. 

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« Reply #271 on: August 23, 2018, 03:33:19 pm »
Personally, I'd like the arcade trend cool off. Prices for cabinets, parts, pcb's have gone crazy lately, and the less people entering the collection scene the lower prices are going to go for owners to off-load their gear.

Alternative is the landfill.  Which was the ultimate destination for 90% of this stuff.  Active collectors means churn and means you can actually get something.  Yeah, I miss the days of $10 JAMMA boards but so it goes.


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« Reply #272 on: August 24, 2018, 01:23:09 am »
looks like pac man, and pac man plus are coming as an exclusive to wal-mart.







ms pac man is rumored to come out later on.



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« Reply #273 on: August 24, 2018, 10:44:25 am »
looks like pac man, and pac man plus are coming as an exclusive to wal-mart.







ms pac man is rumored to come out later on.



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Greedy ---daisies--- could've at least made it a proper multi-Pac.

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« Reply #274 on: August 24, 2018, 12:28:21 pm »
looks like pac man, and pac man plus are coming as an exclusive to wal-mart.







ms pac man is rumored to come out later on.



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Greedy ---daisies--- could've at least made it a proper multi-Pac.

they are rumored to have ms pac man later, and maybe a multi namco game later on.

so, nothing wrong with a dedicated pac-man game, and pac man plus isn't see very often.

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« Reply #275 on: August 24, 2018, 12:42:25 pm »
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« Reply #277 on: August 24, 2018, 02:41:42 pm »
Yeah i'll finish looking at this at home.

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« Reply #278 on: August 25, 2018, 10:01:46 am »

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« Reply #279 on: August 25, 2018, 05:30:31 pm »
just going over the titles in my mind,
and thoughts on which versions, and which games
are really worth playing or including together.

and wondering if the title games, were actually
the best ones to go with..
===================================================================

standalones


Each one of these are 5/5 stars, but only for people
that actually are fans of those titles.
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space invaders - ok, it's an iconic title, so no problems here, i don't think the sequels were worthwhile, so

no loss there, the graphic sideart looks great. so no issues there.

no, of course, they're not going to recreate the mirrored screen, and features etc.
but will it be the basic black/white, green monitor effect. hmmm.

=================================

galaga / galaxian - galaga is all time classic, so no problems there,
i didn't care for galaxian (to me it was a space invaders clone),

galaga holds up on its own
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galaga has a lot of question marks - which version will it be? what settings?

will there be a kill screen on level 255/256?
some versions continue at 0, and then level 1 again.
will the 'no shoot' bug still be in there.
obviously, the fast shoot mod option will not be there.

no idea as to which rom version it will be.

galaxian had a lot of versions too, but they
didn't really make a difference, unless they
were the super versions, or bootlegs.
==============================

pac-man / pac-man plus - another alltime greatest hit, pac-man plus is underrated to most, but to pac-man fans

its got its own unique quirks. fine with this one.

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will pac-man have the killscreen at level 256? maybe a few people will find out.
pac-man plus has one also.

there were 'new chip' versions, along with turbo ones,
but i doubt those will be considered.

namco fixed the roms and versions to allow play on some versions, so it starts
over again (but still playing the 9th key patterns).

i would actually consider getting this.... we'll see how it pans out.

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capcom fighting series 1
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street fighter 2 series - i'm ok with all of these, it's somewhat consistent, but including the two super

versions seems redundant, ever though super turbo has the new super combo in it

street figthter 2 turbo - an alltime classic, unknown rom version
super street fighter 2 - lesser known, but adds 4 new characters, unknown rom version
super street fighter 2 turbo - lesser known, but adds super combos, unknown rom version

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williams model
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rampage - was never a fan of it, but in order to make this 3 player cabinet work, and have extra controls for

the other games, i guess it had to be the title one

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joust - a 2 player classic, and a great game for one player, some deep strategies for experts, most people

won't last that long in it, and it used a 2 way directional joystick (like galaga),

but can easily be played with a 4/8 way stick

i doubt this version will be the one with 'pterydactyl' hunting bug, where
you could just kill them all day long. it will probably be the fixed bug rom.

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defender - another alltime great, although with the restructuring of the buttons, will be tricky, although

again, the games difficulty will kill off most people quickly anyways, experts won't be playing this

or buying it for this, unless they alter the controls just to play it.

if anyone hits the 995k mark, to get all the free men until a million,
i would be completely shocked.

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gauntlet - another megahit, but unless you're an expert at 1 player, only 1 other player can join you, with 255

levels, it's got tons of depth, most people won't get past the first few levels


there were at least 14 rom revisions of this
some had - less food
- regualar
- different difficulties

etc. so no idea which one they will put on here.
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on paper this looks like a pretty decent 3/4 games, but considering the difficulty of them, unless you really a

certain game, or a set of them, this is a really a subpar collection

from williams, especially with the cramped controls


i would rate this as 3 out of 5 stars for game selection, based on poor controls and layouts.

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atari collection 1

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asteroids - perfect choice, as a classic game, although the original vector graphics will be lost, the button

controls and boring , repetitive gameplay are all there.

yes, i don't like the game, but after getting through 4 boards, that's all there is to it, and once you master

saucer hunting, you should be able to rack up hundreds of men

and play forever.... i don't see any experts doing that.

it should be popular enough for the casual player to get it though
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major havoc - a venry unknown, and underated game. super hard to play, again all the look
of the vector display is lost here also. that plus tricky gameplay makes it hard sell.

there were a few rom revisions of this game.

supposedly a 'fixed' version of this game, is coming out next year which allows the gameplay
to end instead of looping at the end.

i doubt many players will actually even get that far.


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lunar lander - a very simple to learn, hard to play game. its very short, and has very little
replay if you don't get it at first. not very fun, and not a game that anyone would get it for.

that and the original controls are lost.

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tempest - yes, it was huge when released (but i argue it was a sign of the times, and really has no arcade

legacy besides console sequels), excellent vector graphics, which will be

lost on the lcd, and the iconic spinner... this is an underated game for gameplay, although i argue its just

space invaders all over again. no ones getting to the invisible levels,

the light blue or green any time soon (without level select), so no hardcore players will want this..... i

don't even know they included it on here, super breakout would have been
a better spinner/paddle game


there were a few early broken tempest roms that came out, that had all kinds
of cool debug things, depending on the last 2 digits of your score.

i think this will be the final fixed rom.

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this is probably the worst collection of all the games, too many games are too hard,
they don't look right, and the spinner control, if not precise, will just make things even worse.

this is probably a 1/5 star collection, with tempest being the only saving grace of them.


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atari collection 2

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centipede - an all out favorite classic and standalone game, this one could be all by itself and still sell,

great choice
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millipede - the lesser known game, and harder for new players, but easier for experts, i dont see anyone caring

for this, or getting it for this,

although its a nice throw in as a sequel
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missile command - masterpiece of a game, although its way too hard for anyone to play, unless you're a master,

you'll never get to the 0x levels, or get the hundreds of extra cities,

or even see the upper levels, so yes, it's known, but i don't any fans will get it for this

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crystal castles - an excellent, but underrated game, basically an isometric pac-man.
there's a ton of depth to this game, and most people will never get to level 10 the end.
however, its cute enough, and basic enough that people will last through the first few
levels.

it's brutally hard past level 7, especially since you can't just warp to those latter levels.
there's some longevity to it. but i don't think any dedicated fans will get it for these.

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so although it looks like a 4/4 for titles, 2 out 4 aren't really that well known, and 2 of those are super

hard..



granted unless you're a centipede expert, you won't see the extra man for everything you kill glitch at 996k

either. i doubt any expert centipede players will buy this either.

there's just too much unknown in the trackball response, and playing it flat, instead of slanted. i think the

trackball might be the right size though, we'll see.

i would rate this as 4/5 stars for game choices.
since the trackball is the key here, if it is precise, it will be an excellent
collection. millipede feels redundant, marble madness would have made this an almost
instant buy (but that would require 2 trackballs for 2 player mode).

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atari deluxe
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all the games from atari 1 and 2 plus

liberator
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a very lesser known inverse missile command game, not really known, and not a fan favorite.

the game has a bug that ends on level 19, and it has never been fixed. EVER.

quantum
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a lesser known, but supercool underated trackball game. kind of like a freeform qix,
except you are collecting the fuse and particles.

excellent choice for preserving a game, even though it used vector graphics.

it has never been ported, or released on its own before.

gravitar
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a super hard gravity type game, with mazes and shooting. another lesser known
title. there are some hardcore players out there.

if you can last a few minutes, then you are good. unless you are leeching
points off the select screen.

i doubt people will play this much. but if you want to master something, it has
depth to it.


asteroids deluxe
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more of the same as asteroids, except harder. yes, you can still saucer hunt,
but its way way harder. you won't be getting the overlay with this.

and if they don't cheap out, the vector graphics will be blue, instead of white
like asteroids.

again, if you don't like asteroids, you won't like this either. even with the
shields. the extra enemies make it a pain and not as minimal as the original.
(which i didn't like either).

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this is by far the best value, and best collection with tons of great hits,
well known titles, and variety of gameplay ranging from basic to super hard.

the mixed art of centipede and asteroids looks pretty cool on black also.

although the lesser known titles will never get much gameplay from most people.

the controls will literally make or break how its recieved, and if people will
actually be able to master any of these games.

as its currently looking, most casual players, will never see any of the extended
gameplay, deep levels, ending screens or masterful play that the standalone titles
would..




i give it a 4.5/5 stars overall
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future release
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capcom 1

strider
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strider or strider hiryu is a classic side scrolling hack and slash,
i only played it home, and never in the arcades, but it does have
appeal to fans of it, and the artwork looks great.

this is a decent choice


final fight
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one of the first iconic 2 player beat em up games, that would become
a huge genre. it has a huge following, and could have actually been
the main game on its own.

good choice

1944 loop master
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the 5th game in the 19xx series of vertical scrolling shooters.
i didn't even know about this game, until i saw it mentioned here.

and I LOVE SHOOTERS. this looks like a good game, but in no way
shape or form should it be here. of course 1942 is a pure classic.

heck, even 1943 or kai should be here. but nope, they stuck this on here.

very poor choice.

ghosts and goblins
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an alltime classic sidescrolling adventure game, with super hard challenge.

i doubt anyone will finish the second loop, especially with the shield. its
incredibly tough. the rest of the gameplay will keep people preoccupied for
the first couple of levels.

i'm pretty sure you can continue, but if you're not that good, you will continue
to die.

you can kill of zombies for millions of points early on to gain men, but that
might be the only way to get to the real ending if you're good.

good choice.

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so overall 3/4 games are good.

i would rate this as 4/5 stars for fans of 1 or all of the other games.
good variety, and decent controls should make it an easy choice.

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a very mixed compilation of game releases, but who knows what they will release in the future.

if the controls hold up, a couple of these would be worth getting.
getting them for one title or series would only be worth it if you like that particular game,
and don't mind the compromises, in size, controls and screen fidelity.


later
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