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Author Topic: Pac-Man 256 - formerly New cabinet  (Read 35281 times)

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2018, 09:59:09 pm »
You really want that glowing in YOUR FACE?
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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2018, 12:39:34 am »
Dont think you can pull the arcade sign apart, Pretty sure they are Etched into the plastic to give the glow.


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2018, 09:24:05 am »
Dont think you can pull the arcade sign apart, Pretty sure they are Etched into the plastic to give the glow.

Word.  It would make more sense to cut the plastic to fit.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2018, 09:30:16 am »
The clear acrylic is usually just friction fit into a base that contains the LED strip. There are probably little set screws in the base to tighten against the clear acrylic piece. You could pop out the acrylic and flip it over. At least on the ones I have used. I could make you a custom one.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 09:42:52 am »
Kind of like this.
They look much better in person.



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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2018, 10:21:27 am »
Can you do a sign that says multicade and has Dragon's Lair art on it?


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2018, 11:05:56 am »
absolutely.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2018, 11:27:40 am »
Make it flashy like I did in my old boombox.

https://youtu.be/Ih5A2SZkIJQ?t=33

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2018, 12:12:36 pm »
Seems like opt2not could dash out something thematically appropriate pretty quickly.....




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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2018, 01:12:10 pm »
Seems like opt2not could dash out something thematically appropriate pretty quickly.....




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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2018, 04:16:57 am »
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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2018, 11:21:29 am »
I already have a dedicated Konkey Dong.


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2018, 02:21:52 pm »
We can talk about the art when you’re ready.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2018, 07:37:19 pm »
Marquee issue resolved itself once the monitor was mounted. There's 2.5" of space up there. I'll put something translucent behind the bezel and shove a light back there.

Getting the monitor mounted was much harder than anticipated and unfortunately I had to take the back of the case off, but it's rock solid. My wife was horrified I drilled holes in a SONY. It's not the 80s! This was $12 from Goodwill!

Anyway, getting very close. Usually at this stage I'd take the entire thing apart and prime all the wood but meh. That tube ain't coming out.




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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2018, 08:01:48 pm »
Chipboard? I didn't know you were using that. How is it?

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2018, 11:00:50 am »
It's fine.  Cuts easily.  Feels sturdy. 

The joystick was a Christmas present, and after agonizing over the various Plug & Play games, I realized it had the best game selection.  And it has that cool coin return button thing.  So, I couldn't bring myself to hacking it up.

I may eventually migrate to a Pi Zero, but I really liked the idea of using something that boots in 10 seconds and is idiot proof.  I busted out some Amazon gift cards and picked up one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0104G9K4Q/

It drops Pole Position and replaces it with "Pac-Man 256."  Otherwise the game selection is identical.  Menu looks nice, blah blah blah.  Also gives me a theme (aforementioned Pac-Man 256) to run with on the artwork.  I'm gonna root around the scrap pile for joystick, buttons, power supply, but we're zeroing in on the hardware part of this build.


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2018, 11:19:54 am »
It's fine.  Cuts easily.  Feels sturdy. 

The joystick was a Christmas present, and after agonizing over the various Plug & Play games, I realized it had the best game selection.  And it has that cool coin return button thing.  So, I couldn't bring myself to hacking it up.

I may eventually migrate to a Pi Zero, but I really liked the idea of using something that boots in 10 seconds and is idiot proof.  I busted out some Amazon gift cards and picked up one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0104G9K4Q/

It drops Pole Position and replaces it with "Pac-Man 256."  Otherwise the game selection is identical.  Menu looks nice, blah blah blah.  Also gives me a theme (aforementioned Pac-Man 256) to run with on the artwork.  I'm gonna root around the scrap pile for joystick, buttons, power supply, but we're zeroing in on the hardware part of this build.


 :cheers:

That is a nice selection of games.  Those "plug and plays" are really underrated.  This is turning out to be quite the interesting project. 

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2018, 11:53:35 am »
How are you handling the 4x AAA battery usage that toy requires? Is there some hackery you have in mind to connect this thing to a PSU? From the batteries required, it looks like it runs on 6v.

Actually, how are you powering the whole cabinet? Are you planning a 1-Switch solution?

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2018, 12:20:41 pm »
How are you handling the 4x AAA battery usage that toy requires? Is there some hackery you have in mind to connect this thing to a PSU? From the batteries required, it looks like it runs on 6v.

Actually, how are you powering the whole cabinet? Are you planning a 1-Switch solution?

They have a pretty good tolerance for V normally - SInce the batteries run from 1.5V to 1.0V over time as you use a normal battery (rechargeables run at 1.2V each and drop off instead of slowly losing voltage like a normal battery does) so the Voltage requirements usually will be a minimum of about 4V up to about 6V - SO usually they can be run on a simple 5V circuit easily ( so a battery pack - 5V off a Molex connector or USB connection from the monitor/TV works with most of them ) 

For mine using the same Pacman Plug and Play I used a simple 7805 Voltage regulator to get 5V off the 12V supply for the 7" dvd player slave screen ( they use very little amperage so pretty much any 5V supply works fine with them - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,139689.msg1444799.html#msg1444799
« Last Edit: November 06, 2018, 12:39:15 pm by JDFan »

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2018, 01:24:02 pm »
I was going to throw in some cheapy off-brand iphone charger and power this cabinet off a switched power strip.  As JDFan said, this thing will probably run off anything from 3-9V.

Here's a bezel I'm playing around with.




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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2018, 01:41:33 pm »
I was going to throw in some cheapy off-brand iphone charger and power this cabinet off a switched power strip.  As JDFan said, this thing will probably run off anything from 3-9V.

Here's a bezel I'm playing around with.

Like the bezel !

3V is a bit of a stretch - IIRC mine stopped working just under 4V but any USB charger psu will be plenty.

 - Now you have me thinking about updating mine ( bought a couple 5V 7" displays a while back for $20 each that also run on 5V ) So could swap out the monitor in mine with one of them and run the entire thing on one of the battery packs I have laying around making the thing portable !

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2018, 09:51:12 pm »
Bezel needs a little tweaking but it's close. I printed it as two overlapping pieces, each about 10 inches tall, and stitched them together with tape on the back. Black border below the marquee area needs to be dropped about an inch. I've got some scrap there now. The nice thing about this art design is you can play with the vertical height fairly freely.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2018, 11:39:57 pm »
Something seems off...Jenn would think perhaps cut, section and shorten the sides a little make the marquee smaller, recess it a bit, overhang the top about an inch, And if you got time the side art something random and small like Ms pac pushing a shopping cart or something,

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #63 on: November 06, 2018, 11:47:52 pm »
Something seems off...Jenn would think perhaps cut, section and shorten the sides a little make the marquee smaller, recess it a bit, overhang the top about an inch, And if you got time the side art something random and small like Ms pac pushing a shopping cart or something,

Was thinking maybe move the instruction cards down and enlarge them so they are more readable something like attached ( needs some adjustment to the outline dots also but just for an idea )

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2018, 12:11:39 am »
The sides are really, really narrow. I like the moving the instruction cards idea. Maybe I just do a single row of dots down the sides (centered and slightly enlarged), move pacman and ghost to top on either side of text, instruction cards along bottom. That would let me put edge strips on the sides of the plexi without covering any art.

Anyway, for what I paid ($0) it's okay.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2018, 02:38:36 am »
It plays Galaga... Sonofabitch...

Something seems off...

Vertical games on a horizontal monitor will do that. But it's still cool.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 02:42:23 am by Nephasth »
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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2018, 09:54:20 am »
I wouldn't dream of having a cabinet incapable of playing Galaga.  Galaga, Street Fighter 2, and Centipede are the only games that have ever been consistently and specifically requested, and that's about at 70/20/10 split.



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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #67 on: November 07, 2018, 11:41:35 am »
Here's another version.  Simpler art, more accurate measurements.

What do you guys think?

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« Last Edit: November 07, 2018, 11:58:41 am by pbj »

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #68 on: November 07, 2018, 12:19:03 pm »
Looks pretty good - though some of your large dots do not line up on the 2 sides as you can see in this pic with the grid lines. Also are the large yellow dots supposed to have the Black showing through ?

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #69 on: November 07, 2018, 12:29:55 pm »
Are you a big fan of Pac-Man 256?

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2018, 12:33:53 pm »
I like the concept, still missing the scorcards, and pacmans...I still think however since the machine is so small cutting the top off that art and recession it a bit as a marquee (yes a 3 sides bezel) would actually incorporate the art with design, and would loose that Home Depot look.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2018, 01:45:27 pm »
I like the cleaner, simpler look.   :cheers:

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #72 on: November 07, 2018, 02:06:17 pm »
Consider using the same center-to-center spacing for all dots -- large and small, vertical and horizontal.


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2018, 03:14:39 pm »
I've attached the .xcf (Gimp) file.  I think the alignment is pretty close now.


Jennifer - are you proposing I do this like a shadow box / diorama?   ???


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2018, 04:48:50 pm »
Alright, this is probably gonna be it... The gap between the bottom of the screen cutout and the dots is wider than it is up top, but with the screen positioning it is what it is.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #75 on: November 07, 2018, 05:26:51 pm »
The vertical spacing looks a bit excessive.

There's enough room to easily add a fourth dot on the four vertical segments.


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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #76 on: November 07, 2018, 05:27:17 pm »
Looking good man!
You guys are pretty good on the artwork, that is something that I lack a lot of.
This project wants me to dig out the parts and finish up the lucky 8 lines slot machine I have had on the back burner for how long? 4 years?
Could use some serious artwork help on that.
Maybe I will do a project announcement on that and solicit some art help. (I may have already started one, gotta go way back and double check.)

Dont want to derail your project thread here, just DaOld Man rambling again.
This project is looking good and starting to take shape.
I like it.

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2018, 05:39:24 pm »
Yeah pbj, you don't need me to help on artwork, you've got volunteers already!  :cheers:

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Re: New cabinet
« Reply #78 on: November 07, 2018, 05:41:15 pm »
The vertical spacing looks a bit excessive.

There's enough room to easily add a fourth dot on the four vertical segments.

Yep, you're right.  Oh well.  I've abused the poster printer enough.

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« Reply #79 on: November 07, 2018, 09:44:52 pm »
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