Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news


  

Author Topic: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"]  (Read 14902 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Arroyo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 366
  • Budgets are boring
Forced me to get off my @$$ and get a new version of Photoshop - so probably should be thanking you :cheers:

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Forced me to get off my @$$ and get a new version of Photoshop - so probably should be thanking you :cheers:

Haha - either way I'm really grateful for the assist.   :cheers:

So this afternoon I managed to make a little more progress on the CP.  Takes me 3 hours to do something that in my head feels like a 20 minute job.  Anyway, here's what I did:

  • Added some bondo to a corner that had gotten chipped when I made the panels way back when.  I mixed up a batch, slapped it on and awaited 30 minutes for it to dry.
  • Sanded the entire CP smooth. 
  • Hit it with 2 coats of BIN Zinsser primer from a rattle can
  • Sanded the entire CP smooth.  It's not perfectly flat but I don't think it has to be because the CPO material is so thick it will hide any small imperfections in the panels.  I am using the good stuff from GameOn Grafix.
  • Wiped down the entire thing with a damp rag to remove dust and let it dry.
  • Used my trusty Awl to punch the holes in the CPO where the buttons and joystick will go.
  • Used a few spring clamps to hold the CPO down in the right place using the holes to line everything up (I had previously marked the hole locations on the control panel).
  • Very carefully peeled back the bottom half of the CPO and cut off the plastic backing with some scissors.  It is worth noting that I cut the backing oss above the bend in the CP.  I thought it would be best if I had the top part stick down in place at least a little bit right away.
  • Slowly pressed the CPO to the CP working from the bend in the middle down to the bottom to make sure there were no air bubbles
  • Removed the clamps and peeled off the remaining plastic backing to the CPO
  • Slowly pressed the CPO to the CP working from the bend in the middle up to the top to make sure there were no air bubbles
  • Used a razor to trim away the overhang (the CPO was about 1/2" larger than the CP all the way around on purpose).  This was BY FAR the hardest part.  I had a fresh razor but still didn't get an absolutely **perfect** line.  Close enough so that no one will notice but still...  This is a great reminder why I would NEVER make a cab to sell to someone.

Here we go:


Chipped corner:


Bondo!


Sanded:


Primed:


Ready for Art!


Clamped:


Finished!






I hope to drill out the holes tomorrow.  The plan is to cover the areas to be drilled with painters tape to avoid any tearing.  Going to be tricky because the front panel is 3/4" thick so I need to remove extra material from the back so that the Japanese buttons can clip into the holes.   :cheers:

Jimbo

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 715
  • I have no idea what I'm doing.
    • Wood Finishes Direct
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #322 on: October 20, 2018, 05:36:55 pm »
Good job.  I have all this fun to come...

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #323 on: October 20, 2018, 06:32:39 pm »
Good job.  I have all this fun to come...

Thanks.  It is fun.  But stressful somehow. I know it won't come out perfect and I know I'll see the imperfections from now until the end of time but it should be good enough to fool most everyone else!  I am a little worried about the buttons fitting.  I measured a ton but I have feeling there is some dremel work in my future behind the front panel...

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #324 on: November 12, 2018, 01:03:38 pm »
OK long time with no posts on this project but I have been doing stuff behind the scenes.  Well, Arroyo has been doing stuff for me behind the scenes heh...  He has been helping me tweak the artwork for the control panel (yes, I'm redoing it) in addition to his previous work on the side art. 

After living with the CPO for a few days as shown a few posts up, I decided I didn't really like the white area that covers the bend in the CP.  It wasn't aligned 100% on the curve and was really distracting to the overall design.  Also, due to poor measuring on my part the buttons on the front were about 7/32" (5.5mm) too high.  Any attempt at drilling out the holes meant I'd clip the top panel and getting the buttons nuts on seemed like it would be impossible without major dremel work as shown here:



Arroyo graciously redesigned the layout:

Before:



After:



The white line is gone and the top area blends nicely into the bottom area.  It's going to look great.

With the side art and CPO fixed Arroyo even created a Sketch-up model for me to show what (I hope) the finished product will look like. 



I'm motivated to finally finish this up.  I'm ordering the artwork this week and hoping it arrives before Thanksgiving weekend when I should have a few days to work on it. 

HUGE thanks to Arroyo.  He has gone above and beyond in helping me out.   Now it's up to me to get it over the finish line...  :cheers:

Jimbo

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 715
  • I have no idea what I'm doing.
    • Wood Finishes Direct
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #325 on: November 12, 2018, 06:23:50 pm »
That looks sweet :)  Looking forward to seeing this finished... now stop making excuses and get off your a*** ;)

Arroyo's sketchup skills are clearly better than mine!  :notworthy:

Arroyo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 366
  • Budgets are boring
Getír done javery. :cheers:

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #327 on: November 15, 2018, 03:33:35 pm »
Artwork has been ordered.  Hope to wrap this up before the holidays!   :cheers:

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #328 on: November 28, 2018, 01:25:20 pm »
Alright... my prints came in a few days ago and yesterday I was able to get the marquee and CPO installed while I stayed home from work for the plumber (frozen pipes ugh).  What's that?  The marquee and CPO were already installed you say?  Yeah about that...

I know I have problems but the more I stared at the marquee the more and more I disliked what I had done with the installation.  As I think I mentioned already, in order for everything to fit, I centered the image on the marquee (the UFO + lettering) and did not center the lettering itself.  Bad move.  I thought the letters being off center would add something interesting to the design but I was wrong.  There is a reason that marquees center the lettering (for the most part I'm sure there are examples out there like Tempest or whatever).  So I had it reprinted and I recut it making sure the letters were centered in the frame.  The UFO gets a little cut off but not by much and I think this is much more pleasing to the eye.

Here are the before and after shots (the after isn't lit but you get the idea):

Before



After



Next up was the CPO.  Version 1.0 did not line up properly - I hated the white line separating the top and front panels and the art was a little crooked as you tell by the line running across the top edge.  The worst part was that the buttons on the front of the CP were about 3/16" too high up so there would not be enough room to drill without hitting the top panel.  Arroyo did an awesome job tweaking things for me (cleaned up the colors and lowered the 4 front panel buttons).  Version 2.0 of the CPO went on very easy and it looks great.  Here is the before and after:

Before



After:



I also have the vinyl side art, which I plan to install either one day after work this week or sometime on the weekend.  I am a bit stuck though on what to do.  The vinyl is oversized so that I can trim back to the edge of the cab with a razor.  How can I line up the art perfectly?  I have that white border running all the way around that is offset from the edge by 3/4" or so.  This needs to be as close to uniform as possible but when I lay the art over the side panel I can't see the edges!

In order to solve this problem I cut a piece of plexiglas with my pattern bit and router to exactly match the side panel.  Then I can lay the plexiglas on top of the art and get it perfect and then move the art + plexi to the side panel and try to line up the edges.  The issues I'm having are (1) getting the vinyl art to "stick" underneath the plexi so that I can move the art and plexi as one piece to the side panel to line up (scotch tape?) and (2) the vinyl art is in between the plexi and the side panel so it is difficult to line up the edges exactly with the vinyl art in the way.

I'm not even sure I'm making sense.  I've done side art before but I've never had to be so precise when laying it down.  Is there a trick I'm missing?   :cheers:
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 01:26:55 pm by javeryh »

Mike A

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2518
  • Buy a Multimeter
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #329 on: November 28, 2018, 01:35:49 pm »
I liked the marquee better the other way. :dunno

Lining up the side art would be much easier without that white border line. If only someone would have suggested that....

All of that aside, I really like the artwork on your cab. Everything from the design to the colors is excellent.

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #330 on: November 28, 2018, 01:54:14 pm »
I liked the marquee better the other way. :dunno

Lining up the side art would be much easier without that white border line. If only someone would have suggested that....

All of that aside, I really like the artwork on your cab. Everything from the design to the colors is excellent.

Haha thanks.  I remember a certain someone suggesting I ditch the white border.  Oh well... wait until you see it - the colors are awesome.  The whole thing pops.

As for the marquee, it is super easy to swap out so I'm going to live with the current version for a while.  I will admit the actual pictures make the first one look WAY better due to the back lighting.  Who knows, since I can't stop harping on stuff I'll probably change my mind 5 more times before finishing up.  there's actually not that much more to do:

1.  Install side art
2.  Install t-molding
3.  Drill out button holes
4.  Install buttons and wire everything up.
5.  Play some Final Fantasy VII... haha no.  I'm thinking Metal Slug will be first game I boot up.  Can't wait!

yamatetsu

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2047
  • Just because.
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"] (ARTWORK IS *NOT* FINAL!)
« Reply #331 on: November 28, 2018, 05:05:41 pm »
I also have the vinyl side art, which I plan to install either one day after work this week or sometime on the weekend.  I am a bit stuck though on what to do.  The vinyl is oversized so that I can trim back to the edge of the cab with a razor.  How can I line up the art perfectly?  I have that white border running all the way around that is offset from the edge by 3/4" or so.  This needs to be as close to uniform as possible but when I lay the art over the side panel I can't see the edges!

In order to solve this problem I cut a piece of plexiglas with my pattern bit and router to exactly match the side panel.  Then I can lay the plexiglas on top of the art and get it perfect and then move the art + plexi to the side panel and try to line up the edges.  The issues I'm having are (1) getting the vinyl art to "stick" underneath the plexi so that I can move the art and plexi as one piece to the side panel to line up (scotch tape?) and (2) the vinyl art is in between the plexi and the side panel so it is difficult to line up the edges exactly with the vinyl art in the way.

I'm not even sure I'm making sense.  I've done side art before but I've never had to be so precise when laying it down.  Is there a trick I'm missing?   :cheers:

Align the plexi and the vinyl. Doubletape the vinyl to the plexi so that it can't move around. Cut the vinyl along the plexi edges. Remove the doubletape. Apply the vinyl to the cab.
                  

Arroyo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 366
  • Budgets are boring
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"]
« Reply #332 on: January 15, 2019, 01:25:20 am »
1.  Install side art
2.  Install t-molding
3.  Drill out button holes
4.  Install buttons and wire everything up.
5.  Play some Final Fantasy VII... haha no.  I'm thinking Metal Slug will be first game I boot up.  Can't wait!

Ahem.......well?

javeryh

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 5997
    • Bella's Arcade
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"]
« Reply #333 on: January 15, 2019, 09:21:56 am »
1.  Install side art
2.  Install t-molding
3.  Drill out button holes
4.  Install buttons and wire everything up.
5.  Play some Final Fantasy VII... haha no.  I'm thinking Metal Slug will be first game I boot up.  Can't wait!

Ahem.......well?

yeah... about that...  soon - I promise!  Too much real life and I can't seem to get ahead of it.   :cheers:

firedance

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 181
Re: javeryh's Small-ish Bartop ["Jack Attack!"]
« Reply #334 on: January 15, 2019, 10:51:13 am »
"good things comes to those who wait" ;D

  
 

Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31