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Jennifer needs opininions
« on: May 24, 2018, 01:27:59 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 02:01:49 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2018, 02:18:06 pm »
If you rebuild and rewire a lot of harnesses, and I suspect you do, then go for it.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 02:23:24 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 05:54:58 pm »
Personally I believe in having the correct tools for the job and also quality tools.
They are after all my bread and butter (bearing in mind my job)

However I think the question you have to ask is do I need it?
If the answer is yes buy it.
If the answer is no then dont lol

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2018, 06:29:54 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 07:33:34 pm »
I would have a really hard time believing  anyone would ever really need one, especially since you need to put the tie on manually first anyway before you cinch and cut it, However most factory workers most likely had one, so to duplicate the precise flush cut....That's 3 for yes :P

Well I use hundreds of ties and work in a factory yet have never used or felt the need for one lol

For harnesses etc ide prefer spiraband or race way tbh lol

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 07:58:41 pm »
If you really want to go crazy, why not get the auto-feeding kind shown at 0:50 in this video.   >:D



The $8 Harbor Freight zip-tie gun leaves a sharp 1/8" tab so that piece-of-crap is a poor choice.

Between HF and Panduit, there are some mid-range options like this $43 gun.   ;D

It has lots of good reviews.
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I was really pleased with the quality of this gun. With the ties I have been using, it has been cutting them nearly flush and without a sharp edge.

The gun has a nice solid feel to it. Nothing seems flimsy and nothing is rattling.

I used to have an much more expensive Panduit gun and I feel like this is performing on the same level.


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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2018, 08:01:40 pm »
opininions = opinions + onions  :lol

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2018, 09:31:48 pm »
I would start a list of tools that aren't worth buying new and search it once a week to see if a used one pops up for a fraction of the cost of a new one.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 01:52:15 am »
One obvious question (I have no clue on your background or what you do) but would you actually use it enough to justify spending $200 on this? Like, do you sit there and rewire harnesses for a few hours every day? Or do you do it for 20 minutes once a month?

I have owned many different types of tools over many years, and one thing about tools is that there is no replacement for the RIGHT tool for the job. But in the case of something like a zip tie gun, because it's easy to manually do a few zip ties every now and then, it only makes sense to buy an expensive gun for it if your number of zip ties you are doing is greater than X per month.

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 02:44:58 am »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 03:46:37 am »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2018, 04:02:08 am »
If that tool doesn't trim as flush as you like, you can use either flush wire cutters or small end nippers to remove the remaining sharp tail.

 


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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2018, 05:29:15 am »
Jenn I think you have probably made the right choice.

I know what you mean about the want to not cut yaself up on the ties, My arms are covered in cuts and scars from this exact thing! Infact I skinned a large section on the back of my thumb just last night :(

Anywho I digress, You cant change what others do but for your own wiring options you have options!

So personally for wireing harnesses I personally like spira band.
Its cheap as chips to buy and looks really nice, Downside is that its slow to install and a pain in the butt to pull cables in or out/trace cables.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Metre-Cable-Tidy-Kit-PC-TV-Wire-Organising-Wrap-Tool-Spiral-Office-Home/122714804493?epid=2254727580&hash=item1c925f510d:m:mPA1JUiSiAvfbKG_BJETqAw

You can also use split conduits like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-spiral-conduit-tube-pipe-split-non-split-cable-wire-tidy-6-5mm-23mm/282317172757?hash=item41bb6a3015:m:mQNjqJIyqE0XfQi4LS0VWXg

The other option if you have the room is race way trunking like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stageek-Cable-Management-Kit-Open-Slot-On-WallWiring-Raceway-Duct-with-Cover-TVs/132633436293?epid=22019777266&hash=item1ee191a085:g:zxsAAOSwHPNbBUol

Lots of options for neat and tidy pain free cable management :)

Cable ties are for amateurs ;) LOL

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2018, 07:31:52 am »
I LOVE buying tools - but $200 for an item like that may be a bit much.  I personally consider harbor Freight only for single use tools.  Everything after that is a bonus..
Now  If they made a $50 version as suggested.. I'd put that on my list  :P
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2018, 07:46:22 am »
Jennifer the route I always go is lowest price with the highest rating.  I have been bit in the ass too many times buying the most expensive version thinking that it will be best and it turns out to be garbage.  To me $200 seems too high for what the tool actually does.  If its not gold plated I would try to find something in a lower price range.

To me something seems suspicious also when a quick amazon search brings up only one gun that is in that price range and all the others are posted for half the price and below...

+1 for buying but not at that price.

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2018, 09:10:34 am »
PM me your PayPal Jenn , I'll gladly chip in to mitigate the cost a little.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2018, 10:09:25 am »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2018, 11:25:17 am »
I bought this from Bob Roberts years ago for $8:

http://therealbobroberts.net/cabletool.html

It’s Ok.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2018, 01:50:41 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2018, 05:12:09 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2018, 05:42:42 pm »
I can’t imagine ever needing this tool.....

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2018, 06:23:21 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2018, 08:08:03 pm »
Son, I don’t understand a word you just said.

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2018, 09:53:39 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2018, 07:35:39 am »
Jumping on the band wagon a little late here but, if I had to use the thing everyday or it would greatly help me on my output then yes, I would buy it.
But if I only needed it for my hobby, and it would sit in my toolbox for months at a time, nah.
You can also try using finger nail clippers to cut the tie. They do a pretty decent job, just cant get into some places.

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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2018, 08:27:57 am »
hmm..  I may need one when doing my CP...  I do love a good new tool...
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2018, 02:40:02 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2018, 02:57:38 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2018, 04:04:03 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2018, 04:13:49 pm »
No. But keep enjoying that consumerism.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2018, 04:22:17 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2018, 04:46:22 pm »
No. But keep enjoying that consumerism.
  Jenn laughs,  I would like to think we all do.... Those who like tools, also know they make money. ;D

Don't go confusing capitalism with consumerism. And you will NEVER make $200 back from a zip tie cutter. EVER.
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2018, 05:03:47 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2018, 07:50:00 pm »
One could look at it like this.... You buy 10k in tools (and a zip tie gun) And do something that pays back the tools, that zip tie gun gets paid back by say a set of craftsman sockets, and a air ratchet...

No. There is a reason why mechanics are poor. And tool debt is a LARGE portion of it. And that's a mechanic, grinding 8+ hours a day with his tools getting multiple cars out of the shop. $200 for "zip tie tensioners" is some of the dumbest ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- I've heard, and I own many Snap-On tools, so there ya go...
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2018, 08:32:20 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2018, 09:15:05 pm »
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Re: Jennifer needs opininions
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2018, 07:34:52 am »
So we are back to practical or not, this guy makes a good case for yes, should anyone be interested.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8c9TP0ax8....But Jenn only cares for others around here that think it would be fun to play with one at any cost, (but most likely lower end yet practical as far as usefulness)....If any of you guys got a different (not so popular) tool on your workbench Jennifer would love to see it please. :P


Alas I cant show you my not so popular but functional tool or I would get banned LOL

But again I take you back to wrap ;)





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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2018, 08:12:03 am »
All right Don't need a piano to fall on my head,... 3 yes, 2 no...*Edit, If  D/O/Man is saying no too, that's 3/3

I watched the video you linked to, and I have to say this is what we used at my job (Electrician in an aluminum rolling mill).
(I say used because I retired from that job April 1 of this year.)

These things are very nice. The company bought all the tools, so I had no idea what they cost, I figured under a hundred but IDK, never priced them.
If you can afford this tool, I guess my answer would be yes.
If you really dont have a large tool budget, and this thing wont be used very often, id say No.

Now, my solid answer?
(Flipping coin).
Since you seem intent on getting this, and it seems you would use it more than I would (in my personal work), I have to give you a yes.

Go out young Jenn, spend like no tomorrow and ride with the wind! :)
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