This is the best scene in all of Star Trek, prove me wrong

[dkersten]

He waves around his home theater dick any chance he gets.

Well, I don't have a hooch making dick or a coke points dick to wave around, so I make due with what I have. 

The last 8 months of my life have been building this theater and working upwards of 90 hours a week when not working on it, so everything I can relate to lately either has to do with work or this one project.  So I apologize if I relate my posts to this elephant in my life.


That being said, in my opinion anything with video and audio is influenced heavily by HOW you watch it.  When you watch on a smaller screen with basic sound, you don't get anything from the cinematics or soundtrack, which only leaves the story.  A TV series will show a story that has far deeper meaning if you have spent time watching to get to know the characters and the background stories, and will usually forgo the cinematics and soundtrack because it is rarely watched on a big screen.  Movies usually rely on 90-120 minutes to build the background, build the characters, and make you care about the story all while entertaining and immersing you in the eye and ear candy.  It's hard to compare the two types of media, and even harder when comparing in the wrong viewing environment. 

A well filmed movie scene with good cinematics and sound in the right viewing environment will always come across better than a scene from a TV series in the same environment.  I was reminded of that when watching Into Darkness the other night.  Every action scene was "better" than anything listed in this thread, at least to me.   

And I also believe the opposite.  Watch the OP scene on a small screen with basic sound and it won't hold a candle to a scene that struck a chord in you and stuck with you for decades from the TV series.

[Mike A]

Your explanation is even dumber than your original dumb post.

[opt2not]

If you're the type of person that judges the quality of a show based on the size of the screen you're watching it on, then you shouldn't be in this discussion --  because shiny things may distract you.

[Drnick]

21000W,  Meh I've slept through louder.

[javeryh]

Eh... there is some merit in what dkersten is saying (coming from someone with a fancy home theater in his basement heh).  We watched Jumanji (the new one) a few weeks ago in 4K with the 7.2.4 Atmos firing on all cylinders and the buttkickers shaking the seats and I swear to god that movie is awesome.  I doubt I would feel that way if I had seen it on an airplane or something.  I know it isn't a great movie but watching it was a great experience.  In fact, every single movie I've watched in my theater seems better than it actually is.  The other night we watched Iron Man 2 and the entire family agreed it was WAY better than we all remembered.  Even TV like Stranger Things and A Series of Unfortunate Events seem totally epic. 

 

[wp34]

Yeah I don't get this line of argument.  Movies are better in the theater than at home--but a nice home theater setup with a big screen certainly improves the experience.  If money and time were no object I'd see everything possible in IMAX.

[opt2not]

Well then perhaps The Academy should be watching Micheal Bay movies on IMAX screens so they'd get nominated for Best Picture/Director/Screenplay...   

[Mike A]

I have to say, in my opinion, the best scene in all of Star Trek is the one you are watching in 4k on a 150" wide screen with 21,000 watts of power for the sound system.  Pretty friggin awesome and hard to beat. 

Read his statement again. Not his lame backtrack explanation.

[Vigo]

Bingo.

[Howard_Casto]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher. 

[yotsuya]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher.

Not only that, I’m finding most younger people today prefer watching movies on their phone or tablet as opposed to the TV.

[javeryh]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher.

I agree but isn't the same movie even more enjoyable with optimal picture, sound and comfortable seats?

[opt2not]

Most young people these days would rather watch people play with glue, or unwrap toys on YouTube than watch movies.

[Vigo]

What gets me is how many people are into watching others play video games on youtube rather than playing the games themselves.

[pbj]

What gets me is how many people are into watching others play video games on youtube rather than playing the games themselves.

Until it clicks that they're doing the same thing we did when we were sitting on the couch and watching our friends play.

[Drnick]

What gets me is how many people are into watching others play video games on youtube rather than playing the games themselves.

Until it clicks that they're doing the same thing we did when we were sitting on the couch and watching our friends play.

This is the truth

[Mike A]

Millions of people watch sports instead of playing them. Nobody thinks its weird.

[wp34]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher.

I agree but isn't the same movie even more enjoyable with optimal picture, sound and comfortable seats?

It certainly is.

[Malenko]

Millions of people watch sports instead of playing them. Nobody thinks its weird.

People who watch golf are weird.

[Nephasth]

You haven't seen the Euro dart scene...

[opt2not]

I definitely watch other people play games online. Especially for games I'm on-the-fence about. The last game I watched someone play was ZombiU, which I'm glad I did, because the game didn't look like something I would have been happy spending money on.

Games done quick, and other gaming charity events are something I also tune into.

Competitive gaming as well, like fighting game tournaments, gets a bunch of time especially while I'm at work and have it playing in the background as filler.  But now, I'm going to have to start tuning into those Madden tournaments for anything "eventful"... too soon?

[Ond]

I enjoy watching Wil Wheaton review board games on Tabletop.... wait, what was the topic of this thread again? 

Is a movie a good movie because the studio say's it is (i.e accountants)...or collective opinion says it is? - Fans cried out for a renewal of The Expanse and a man with very much money (who is also a fan) heard them.  See what I did there?

Movies in a good cinema/home theatre/entertainment system ARE more enjoyable.  A good movie even more so. But so what, whats that got to do with the question? Eh?

[Howard_Casto]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher.

I agree but isn't the same movie even more enjoyable with optimal picture, sound and comfortable seats?

Yes but it doesn't magically make the bad ones good. 

[Malenko]

Yes but it doesn't magically make the bad ones good.

I guess he'll have to watch that train wreck called the last jedi and let us know. At least he can see Adam Driver's nipples in 4K.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah what the hell was up with that movie?  I've heard of pointless plots that end dark, but it bends the limits of what a properly structured film can be.  "Yeah remember all that stuff you did through the whole film and was supposed to be the point of the whole damn movie?  Yeah none of that mattered and everybody anyone cared about is going to die.  And I shot your dog."

[javeryh]

A good movie is a good movie regardless of the format.  The good Star Trek films were enjoyable via vhs on a crappy $200 25 incher.

I agree but isn't the same movie even more enjoyable with optimal picture, sound and comfortable seats?

Yes but it doesn't magically make the bad ones good.

No but the experience of watching a bad movie is better - it almost never seems like a complete waste of time no matter the movie.  We've probably watched 50 or so by now and the only one that was god awful was Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  Field of Dreams was close to god awful but everything else was OK to great.  Even The Last Jedi was OK (it gets worse and worse with each viewing though... it's a bad movie and might be the worst Star Wars movie including the prequels... well, except for Episode II).

[Mike A]

the only one that was god awful was Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  Field of Dreams was close to god awful but everything else was OK to great.  Even The Last Jedi was OK

You are dead to me.

[pbj]

Millions of people watch sports instead of playing them. Nobody thinks its weird.

Sports are the secular glue that keeps society together.

[Nephasth]

Millions of people watch sports instead of playing them. Nobody thinks its weird.

Sports are the secular glue that keeps society together.

Give them bread and circuses...

[javeryh]

the only one that was god awful was Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  Field of Dreams was close to god awful but everything else was OK to great.  Even The Last Jedi was OK

You are dead to me.

haha which one?  I thought I loved Pee Wee's Big Adventure and Field of Dreams but have you seen them lately?  Pure crap.  Pee Wee's Big Adventure is so stupid and didn't even appeal to my kids.  I don't think anyone laughed once.  Field of Dreams is a movie I thought was so good and meant something as a teenager, etc. but it is actually really bad and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. 

The Last Jedi we can debate forever.  I thought it was good but seriously flawed when I first saw it but it gets worse and worse the more I watch it (and think about it).  It is a bad movie but the action and special effects are good and I'm easy to please.

[Vigo]

I watched Pee Wee's big adventure a month ago. Laughed ---my bottom--- off. If you can't appreciate that movie anymore, then something got broken inside you. 

[Vigo]

I definitely watch other people play games online. Especially for games I'm on-the-fence about. The last game I watched someone play was ZombiU, which I'm glad I did, because the game didn't look like something I would have been happy spending money on.

Games done quick, and other gaming charity events are something I also tune into.

Competitive gaming as well, like fighting game tournaments, gets a bunch of time especially while I'm at work and have it playing in the background as filler.  But now, I'm going to have to start tuning into those Madden tournaments for anything "eventful"... too soon?

That's different that what I was referring to. Apart from how-tos, play-thoughs, tournament stuff, tips and tricks, etc. There seems to be endless videos of some kid playing sandbox games like Minecraft. Nothing extraordinary, just playing the game. My kids are into that and I am just like, "Uh. Wanna play the real thing??" No, they just want to watch some random kid do it better.

[Mike A]

I know what the problem is Javeryh. You didn't have the volume up high enough and your screen was too small.

[javeryh]

I watched Pee Wee's big adventure a month ago. Laughed ---my bottom--- off. If you can't appreciate that movie anymore, then something got broken inside you. 

I guess I'm broken but that wouldn't surprise me.  I'm mostly dead inside anyway.   

We also watched Billy Madison and I was embarrassed in front of my kids for ever thinking it was funny.  There were some laughs but Adam Sandler is a dope and I completely understand why my parents didn't get it.

[Vigo]

Hah, I'm on the same page about Billy Madison. A few laughs, but mostly a waste. It sits somewhere in the early Jim Carrey films with me. Probably above The Mask but below Ace Ventura.

[pbj]

I feel like the only person in the world that liked Pixels and didn't like Wreck it Ralph.

[Howard_Casto]

I feel like the only person in the world that liked Pixels and didn't like Wreck it Ralph.

I'm sure there are people out there that have undergone some blunt force trauma to the head or something. 

[Vigo]

Don't worry, I'm sure everyone will end up unified in hate over Wreck-it-Ralph 2. (Except those of us with large enough Home Theaters)

[fallacy]

Maybe but still impossible to be worse than what Adam Sandler has put out in the last 8 years.

[Howard_Casto]

Don't worry, I'm sure everyone will end up unified in hate over Wreck-it-Ralph 2. (Except those of us with large enough Home Theaters)

I dunno.  I'm annoyed that they've apparently dropped the whole inside an arcade thing really quick, but some of the interactions like the Disney Princesses seems interesting.