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Howard_Casto:

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--- Quote from: pbj on August 09, 2018, 04:28:07 pm ---I like the one where Spock's brother steals the ship to talk to god.  Probably the only one I've watched from start to finish on TV.

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 :badmood:  That is by far the worst one.

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No that would be Star Trek III.  You know, the one without Spock.  Five is very underrated... it's one of my personal favorites.  The moral lesson about religion not being the answer to everyone's problems and perhaps peoples' struggles building character instead of destroying their lives is a very poignant one.  Also the whole thing about joining a cult to find god ends up brining you closer to the devil is kind of fitting.  I mean you do understand that the trapped entity was supposed to be the devil right?  Yeah the ending was kind of botched and that fan dance was kind of weird, but everything else was pretty great. 

The motion picture is also a  bit underrated.  It's slow as hell, but if you have the patience it's quite cerebral, which is how good Trek should be.  Honestly three is the only TOS stinker imho, primarily because the entire film is a giant plot device to unkill Spock, but they didn't have the good sense to bring him back at the beginning of the film, so that you know, Leonard Nimoy would actually be in it to play off of Kirk and McCoy. 
Mike A:
In one of Shatners books he said that he got handcuffed by studio execs on the ending of the movie. He needed more money for the ending he wanted. He could have made that up, but that is the reason he provided. I liked 5 as well. The row, row, row your boat scenes were among my favorites in all of Trek.
wp34:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on August 11, 2018, 12:23:39 am ---
--- Quote from: wp34 on August 09, 2018, 04:45:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: pbj on August 09, 2018, 04:28:07 pm ---I like the one where Spock's brother steals the ship to talk to god.  Probably the only one I've watched from start to finish on TV.

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 :badmood:  That is by far the worst one.

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No that would be Star Trek III.  You know, the one without Spock.  Five is very underrated... it's one of my personal favorites.  The moral lesson about religion not being the answer to everyone's problems and perhaps peoples' struggles building character instead of destroying their lives is a very poignant one.  Also the whole thing about joining a cult to find god ends up brining you closer to the devil is kind of fitting.  I mean you do understand that the trapped entity was supposed to be the devil right?  Yeah the ending was kind of botched and that fan dance was kind of weird, but everything else was pretty great. 

The motion picture is also a  bit underrated.  It's slow as hell, but if you have the patience it's quite cerebral, which is how good Trek should be.  Honestly three is the only TOS stinker imho, primarily because the entire film is a giant plot device to unkill Spock, but they didn't have the good sense to bring him back at the beginning of the film, so that you know, Leonard Nimoy would actually be in it to play off of Kirk and McCoy.

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I'm stunned that five is a personal favorite of yours.  I haven't seen it in a long time so I won't presume to debate you.  Although I may have to watch it so I can come back here and be a troll.   ;D

Three isn't a stinker to me but it has a lot of problems.   On the plus side showing Earth outside of Starfleet was fun as was the stealing of the Enterprise.  Christopher Lloyd was also a blast as Kruge.  Like Vigo said II,III and IV make a nice trilogy.

The main problem with the motion picture are the way too long shots of the Enterprise.  They decided to break the rules of Star Wars--which kept the effects shots brief--and return to the sins of 2001 a Space Odyssey.   It isn't a great movie but I do enjoy it.  It is closer to TOS in tone than all the other movies.
leapinlew:

--- Quote from: saint on August 09, 2018, 03:43:19 pm ---The only bad Trek was Voyager. There, I said it. I feel better.

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Are you willing to go on record as saying Voyager is worse than Enterprise?

I'll say, Janeway used to drive me crazy, but a rewatch of the series in chronological order and I found it to be very enjoyable. It has an overall story arch, like DS9, that provided continuity and the character development gave a nice human aspect. I enjoyed it.

Oddly enough, when I built my R2D2, I watched Voyager from start to finish. Season 1, I was spending 90% of my time building R2, and 10% to watching the show. By the last season, I was 100% watching the show, lol.
adder:
love voyager  :)

the borg are in it loads.. what's not to like?

fave episode is called 'the thaw'   ...  still scares the crap out of me   :o

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