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Howard_Casto:
What "tech" do you speak of? See there isn't any tech in the new Star Trek, it's scifi troupe garbage that looks good on screen but doesn't have any real world use.

Holographic translucent screens - stupid and impractical. It's difficult to read something when you can see through it as all the stuff behind it messes with the contrast.
Pop-up holographic controls - also stupid and impractical. If they were solid that'd actually be a pretty cool idea, but the ones on the show are translucent and it's obvious that there isn't any tactical feedback, so basically they are playing xbox kinect.

See Star Trek tech was always fantastical but in a practical, grounded in reality way. It's supposed to inspire people to go out and build it and guess what? The stuff on the old shows.... people DID go out and build them. The padd, the touch screen controls, voice controlled computers, a wireless networked system of interconnected devices, the hypo-spray, hell even the adjustable hospital bed and the communicator from TOS.... they all frikkin exist now!!! That's because show runners carefully thought up of tech that was needed but was currently impossible. The stuff on Picard and discovery isn't needed. It's just dumb sci-fi.

There are no new Klingons.... only hideous turd monsters. Turd monsters which are retconned into something mroe closely resembling Klingons by season 2 as they realized the horrible mistake they made. The Klingon design has evolved slightly over the years but has essentially remained unchanged since the motion picture in 1979... that means my entire life Klingons have looked the same. The pure hubris of the show runners thinking they knew better than 40 years worth of sfx artists is appalling. Also if you watch more discovery you'll find that they've already dropped the "travel anywhere in an instant" gimmick, which is good because it worked on magic and that's dumb Doctor Who nonsense not appropriate for Star Trek.

The only positives are returning cast members on Picard, specifically Sir Patrick himself. He can read the phone book and it'd be an interesting watch which is fortunate as Picard totally falls off the rails towards the end. I thought it was building towards something and it just left 14 plot threads on the table instead. Of course there are some great characters on Discovery as well... just not Bernham... they should kill her off or something.

CBS all access is no more with the (re)merger and everything will shift to paramount+ in a few months. Paramount knows how to handle the property, so hopefully a shakeup is coming that'll right the ship. Both shows have potential.... they just need actual writers that can write actual Star Trek episodes. You can already see changes as Strange New Worlds (captain Pike spin-off) isn't going to be serialized and will present a more traditional Star Trek format apparently.

leapinlew:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 17, 2020, 12:58:18 am ---What "tech" do you speak of? See there isn't any tech in the new Star Trek, it's scifi troupe garbage that looks good on screen but doesn't have any real world use.

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The "tech" I was talking about was me finding things to chat about when speaking with my dad about the show. I try not to sound like comic book guy when talking to him because he's a big fan. Nobody likes to hear that much critical over-thinking of a television show they like.

javeryh:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 17, 2020, 12:58:18 am ---You can already see changes as Strange New Worlds (captain Pike spin-off) isn't going to be serialized and will present a more traditional Star Trek format apparently.

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Pike is the best "new" character Star Trek has come up with in decades, IMO. I know he's not original to Discovery but the actor playing him has done a fantastic job. He commands the room, trusts the crew and knows when to bend (or break) the rules.

javeryh:
Finished Discovery. It was fine.

We started Picard last night - first 2 episodes. I like it so far. I just like Patrick Stewart I guess. The show seems like a movie with a huge budget. The sets and costumes are really good so far. The story is interesting too although it seems like it has been done a million times before (one last mission! secret societies with unlimited resources! Starfleet has been infiltrated!). We shall see. I'm just glad there is more Star Trek.

Mike A:

I love Star Trek.

They need to let it die.

It needs to stop.

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