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Osirus23:

--- Quote from: Mr. Peabody on December 02, 2018, 05:00:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on November 30, 2018, 09:05:23 pm ---Yeah I don't get it and I don't get this direction Hollywood is taking in general. When you are a kid and somebody is reading you a story do you ask "what happens next?" or "what's the origin of that character?"

They could have brought back TNG in the 2000's and everybody would have been happy. Use the new movie ship, go on new adventures, ect.

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Since the 80s, the youth have been where the money is. Disney has shown those over thirty, especially parents, do not matter. And the youth want their own kind of stories. Soon everything will be youth fiction.

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Then why do these franchises just keep falling back on the stuff that's familiar to the over thirty parents? Why does Star Trek keep going back to Spock and the original Enterprise? Why does Star Wars, instead of expanding on the universe, just go back and give us ---smurfy--- stories about how Han Solo met Chewbacca and Lando, or how Leia ended up with the Death Star plans?

Both of these franchises have limitless options for storytelling, but all we end up getting is rehashed characters and the same stories told over and over.

Mr. Peabody:
@Osiris: they killed Han. Most everything else the characters* make the series. In looking up coming MCU and DCU movies the other night, there were some speculations about non-standard character movies. Cloak and Dagger have their own TV show. And that's where things are going. The FX are up there, so why spend hundreds of millions on movies?

*The main Avengers actors are saying they're done. Jackman has said he's done. Black Widow is not a main Avenger, however much some might want to think so, but she and other female characters are becoming main fare, meaning new actors, new characters, new stories.

Osirus23:

--- Quote from: Mr. Peabody on December 02, 2018, 07:50:29 pm ---@Osiris: they killed Han.

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Boy, did they ever.

Howard_Casto:
@Osirus23 LOL. Btw you can't tell me that the poster doesn't look like something they mocked up for one of the fantasy sequences on Community.

Actually.... not all of that is true. The main avengers know that their contracts are about to expire and they are holding out for more money. Jackman has already said that if they give wolverine something interesting to do (like bring him into the marvel universe proper) he might return. In Hollywood nobody says what they mean, you have to read between the lines a little.

It isn't that the under 30 demographic is important, but rather the films released only appeal to those under 30. Why? Because they keep rehasing the same damn stories over and over as well as casting lackluster actors to do prequels involving legendary characters and actors.

You know why the rebooted Star Trek movies are now in a downward spiral? Because Chris Pine isn't William Shatner. Sure for the first couple of movies the fact that "it's a new exciting direction" will get people to the seats, but new sfx, curiosity and nostalgia will only take you so far... At some point good actors and stories faithful to the source material are required. Since you can never go home again, reboots and prequels are doomed to fail from the start.

opt2not:
Wait. William Shatner is a good actor?? ROFL GTFO! :lol

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