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danny_galaga:
We couldn't get past the second episode. That family seem blase about danger beyond belief. Danger Will Robinson indeed... |
DaOld Man:
Thanks Howard. that explanation about Judy makes perfect sense, and was what i figured was going on, but didnt really want to tread those waters. Danny, yeah seems like they know they will come through it ok no matter what the danger is. Thats ok for the show i guess, but not for the audience. |
8BitMonk:
Watched it this weekend and loved it! --- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 16, 2018, 04:06:51 am ---We couldn't get past the second episode. That family seem blase about danger beyond belief. Danger Will Robinson indeed... --- End quote --- The whole family is thoroughly trained to go into space and handle dangerous situations, they all have way above average intelligence and the ability to deal with danger so it's not odd that they'd be calm under duress. Had you continued to watch you'd see the trauma of almost dying actually has future ramifications and haunts Judy moving forward. Also a major recurring theme in the story is of Will overcoming fear. If you quit watching just for this you weren't giving it much of a chance. --- Quote from: DaOld Man on April 16, 2018, 12:24:39 am ---Ive gotten in to 4 episodes so far. There are some holes that maybe will be answered later. One is (at the risk of sounding racist here), why is Judy a black girl when everyone else in the family is white? Was she adopted? Did Maureen have a previous marriage or lover before John? --- End quote --- Having an adopted daughter of another race is a plot hole? Were you legitimately confused by how this could happen? :dizzy: --- Quote from: Howard_Casto on April 16, 2018, 03:56:34 am ---She's black for the same reason that the Roseanne reboot has a black kid..... because diversity at all costs even if it makes zero sense to do so. It doesn't really bother me in this particular series since the people they cast are quite good, but it's glaringly obvious why they did some of the casting changes. It'll be explained later, though it doesn't explain how two gingers gave birth to a little boy with brown hair and frosted tips. ;) --- End quote --- So there can never be a story line that involves an adopted child of another race without it being the creators trying to shoehorn in diversity? Why does it make zero sense, couples adopt all the time. You're way overthinking the looks of the (white) kids vs. adults, if that takes you out of the story you're going to be pretty hard pressed to find anything immersive. |
Howard_Casto:
Here's the thing 8BitMonk.... shows and films are supposed to be streamlined so the audience can understand. Every character, every casting choice, and every line of dialog should be directed towards propelling either the plot or the emotion of the scene, so unless it's a plot point and therefore has some sort of meaning, yup... it can't be done. You see a family of a bunch of pale people and one black girl and unless there is something wrong with you that'll peak your curiosity... unless that curiosity is given a satisfying answer it merely convolutes the story and acts as a distraction. The fact that you've apparently watched the show and think that she's adopted just shows how poor a job that they did explaining her situation. There are literally two throw away lines in the show, one in the middle and one in the last episode. Blink and you'll miss them. When you actually start to think about it, it really convolutes the plot. She's from an earlier marriage right? So what did Mrs. Robinson do? Get married at 16 long enough to have Judy and then get a divorce? The reason I say that is the fact that all evidence points to the fact that her and Mr. Robinson got married at a really young age as they talk about stories of being together when they were poor and just starting out and even then the kids were already born. No I'm no genius, but people high up in the military and people that design space ships for NASA aren't poor, so these other memories were from a long time ago. See... it doesn't make sense when you think about it. As for Will, how hard is it to dye the boy's hair? If his parents aren't willing to dye his hair.... time to cast another kid. But even Netflix is selling to the lowest common denominator aka stupid people so I get why they thought they could get away with it. Also this fact is exactly why I say it was diversity for diversities sake... they write shows for stupid people to enjoy so they try to keep things simple... having a blended family is not simple... they wanted to hit you in the face with it even though this show had multiple families from multiple ethnic groups and there was no real reason to do so. Making Don Latino and Dr. Smith a woman I totally get... it was an easy way to diversify the cast, the people they have in the roles are fantastic, and it doesn't require an explanation. The fact that for the first three episodes I kept thinking "Are they going to explain the kid situation as none of these kids look alike?" before finally giving up and just accepting it pretty much proves it was an issue. Please don't take this the wrong way, but the fact that I'm not asleep at the wheel when I watch tv is a good thing...it means my mind is curious and always active..... it's all the mouth-breathers that lazily veg out without paying attention to anything that have the problem. And for the record, couples do not adopt all the time outside of Hollywood and rich, white folks... it's actually quite rare due to how incredibly difficult it is for the average family to get approved. Even when it is approved, the most common type of adoption is for a family member to take custody like a grandparent or aunt/uncle due to an unfit parent situation. Some of my extended family members are adopted, I should know. I wish that this wasn't the case, there are a lot of kids out there that need a home, but that's the facts unfortunately. I can't believe I'm taking the time to explain all of this obvious stuff, but people need to understand that being "woke" doesn't mean that you turn a blind eye to reality and common human behavior. |
opt2not:
I'm at episode 4, and I'm digging it so far. The production values are high, every character is actually likable, and the universe is smart enough to not feel like another sci-fi check list (*ehem* looking at you Altered Carbon). Now I never watched the original series, and I avoided the theatrical release because it just looked bad in general. So I can't comment on how it compares, but I do have fresh eyes on it so it's all pretty new to me. Episode 1 was a little bananas though. Everything bad that could happen, did happen just so they can forcefully lead the story in a direction. It got to the point where it started getting predictable and unnatural. But they redeemed themselves with Episode 2...that is where I was completely sold. I felt it was the strongest episode so far. Penny really grew on me, especially because I was starting to cringe with all her added humour and one-liners. But by the end of ep.2 I became a fan of hers. And I love how they showed a tormented and traumatized Judy, after the events of ep.1. It didn't bother me that she looks different from the family. I just figured they'd go into explaining that later on in the show: my bet is she was an affair baby from Mr.Robinson's touring days. Which kinda makes sense to how the parents regard each other, on the brink of divorce. Parker Posey as Dr.Smith is brilliant. Great casting choice IMO. Will is the weakest character so far, shallow and blasé. Not many dimensions to him, compared to the rest of the characters. Maybe that'll change later on... Anyway, I'm enjoying this so far. |
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