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| Vigo:
--- Quote from: 8BitMonk on April 17, 2018, 01:49:20 am ---Why? Trying to write characters that appeal to a larger multi-ethnic audience is bad? --- End quote --- I've never seen this show, but in general it is bad because its borderline racist to stage a character in a show that looks like a particular race simply to pander for more views. I guess if you are all in favor of having the token black character, cool. I'm not offended by the stuff, but I think it often a huge disservice to make a character who is an out-of-place stereotype as a cash grab. With this show, I would assume if more diversity is the goal, it should be easy enough to make the mother a different race from the father, and have the kids look like a mix of the parents. I'm just gonna say you shouldn't sleight Howard as being "close-minded and ignorant" because he looks at the issue differently than you do. On a side note, I am pretty damn impressed with any show that casts family members that actually look like they could be related, and even have certain mannerisms of each other. There is a whole lot less disbelief to suspend when you see character actually look like a family. In this shows defense, the one photo I saw of the family, they do look kinda similar. |
| 8BitMonk:
--- Quote from: Vigo on April 17, 2018, 03:10:00 pm ---I've never seen this show, but in general it is bad because its borderline racist to stage a character in a show that looks like a particular race simply to pander for more views. I guess if you are all in favor of having the token black character, cool. I'm not offended by the stuff, but I think it often a huge disservice to make a character who is an out-of-place stereotype as a cash grab. With this show, I would assume if more diversity is the goal, it should be easy enough to make the mother a different race from the father, and have the kids look like a mix of the parents. --- End quote --- That wasn't the case in this show, there was no pandering, no 'token' characters, it was a simple change in the family dynamic that made sense in the context of the world that for some reason really bothered Howard. --- Quote from: Vigo on April 17, 2018, 03:10:00 pm ---I'm just gonna say you shouldn't sleight Howard as being "close-minded and ignorant" because he looks at the issue differently than you do. --- End quote --- I didn't call Howard 'close-minded and ignorant' I said his comments were and I stand by that. I don't know what else you'd call them, I still haven't heard a reasonable explanation as to why the daughters race was so far-fetched and 'glaringly distracted' him. This isn't a personal attack, everyone's entitled to their opinion, I'm just strongly rebutting his and voicing mine. I don't think the average person watching this series would be jarred in the slightest by the daughter being black or the kids hair not matching. I'm genuinely curious why he found THAT to be the most glaringly far fetched thing in a world with spaceships and killer robots. Just like political correctness can run amok so to can this knee-jerk negative reaction to the insertion of any ethnic character in a story where there wasn't one previously. How did it negatively impact the story? Others who have seen it chime in, did this fact ruin the story for you? |
| Vigo:
Gotcha! I thought your comments that they wanted different generic backgrounds so they could inbreed in space without mutant babies was just a random theory of yours. :lol From the comments, it sounded to me like watching diff'rent strokes where they made no mention that Willis and Arnold were adopted, which indeed would be glaringly distracting. |
| danny_galaga:
--- Quote from: 8BitMonk on April 16, 2018, 12:19:19 pm ---Watched it this weekend and loved it! --- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 16, 2018, 04:06:51 am ---We couldn't get past the second episode. That family seem blase about danger beyond belief. Danger Will Robinson indeed... --- End quote --- The whole family is thoroughly trained to go into space and handle dangerous situations, they all have way above average intelligence and the ability to deal with danger so it's not odd that they'd be calm under duress. Had you continued to watch you'd see the trauma of almost dying actually has future ramifications and haunts Judy moving forward. Also a major recurring theme in the story is of Will overcoming fear. If you quit watching just for this you weren't giving it much of a chance. --- End quote --- Did they train to not worry about the kids too much? Let's go look at this alien space ship! Oh now we've had a perfunctory glance let's not investigate it further (what things for our survival might be gained from this ship?) and just head back again! Why did they have to squeeze so much into two episodes? Checking out the ship in a later episode would flesh the story out better and keep the robot a bit of a mystery. Also my partner was very disturbed by the fact this human destroying robot all of a sudden seems to have copped a bump on the head and now loves humans! Even kneeling for the boy. If I was invested in the show I could look past that, but I did find it amusing there was a convenient mountain made of magnesium available, when in nature magnesium exists as an oxide- in other words already 'burnt'. Anyway, that is a minor quibble but it is a tell tale for me that when I notice things like that I am not connecting with the story enough to ignore it. I think you may need rose coloured glasses to watch this. Where I grew up, we only had one TV station so they couldn't possibly show everything that is now considered iconic. So I was watching this Netflix reboot with fresh eyes. I did get to see Get Smart growing up though. Now that was the bomb (",) |
| DaOld Man:
Yeah I noticed a few things that just dont add up too. Like the water freezing around Judy. It froze so fast that she couldnt get out in time. It looked like someone flipped a switch and instant cold water. The ship was down in the bottom for quite a while before this happened. If the air temperature dropped fast enough to freeze the water that quick, you would think the people on top would have froze solid. I know they had space aged suits that probably protected them, but nothing on their faces. And the chariots: I liked the original design a lot better than these. Four rubber tires and the things arent even 4 wheel drive? Its funny how when they travel through the jungle it looks like the path has been cleared for them. The original chariot had bulldozer threads and looked more like a tank. That baby was made for alien worlds. And my closing shot: Why, pray tell, would you go to an alien world (that can sustain life) without any weapons? Is life on other planets peace loving gun hating hippies also? |
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