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Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« on: April 11, 2018, 09:11:30 pm »
I'm doing a capacitor replacement on my Billabs BL27CB0P. I'm going to document the process here for anyone else intending to do the same.

Ever since I got the monitor I noticed some squishing around the edges. In sidescrollers, it's like the image is being wrapped onto the screen as if it's being pulled off a roll of paper towel. Although I learned to just live with it over the last ten years, the last time I opened up the back of the cabinet I noticed a couple bulging capacitors. It's time for an overhaul. Hopefully it fixes the edge squishing, but if not, at least it will hopefully last another ten years.

The BL27CB0P is a 27" multisync monitor and there is little information about it online, but the original product page is archived here. Although it's a rebranded Wei-Ya, I can't find the original Wei-Ya model number. As such, I've had no luck finding schematics online.

I've setup a shared Google Drive folder with disassembly images and a capacitor inventory. The inventory sheet has tabs for the Mainboard, Neckboard, and VGAboard. I'm getting help from Peter at arcadepartsandrepair.com. He's going to be the one setting up a cap kit for me.

This will be my first cap kit installation, so I'm excited. Well, as excited as I can be for something that has 72 caps... Yikes. Stay tuned...


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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 12:14:07 am »
The first step was discharging the monitor and removing the board. I used this video as a guide. My tool of choice was a long screwdriver with alligator clips and solid core wire. One thing I did just to make sure everything was connected was do a continuity test from the tip of my screwdriver to the chassis. Everything came apart without issue. I took all the pictures in the post above so I had a record of how everything went back together. Since no cap kits for the monitor exist, I needed to take it apart and inventory everything. It will take a week or two before the kit arrives, so in the meantime I had to stock up on some tools...

I grabbed a Hakko FR-301 desoldering tool from tequipment.net. I figure I can do a cap kit install in some friends' machines as well. It's pricey, but it should last me a long time.

I also ran a voltmeter on every cap to make sure they were all discharged. I tested the capacitance of a few on the board and I noticed that one of the bulgers (C30) wasn't reading any capacitance... Maybe that one is the main culprit!

Stay tuned...

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 07:08:30 pm »
surely this is a wei ya 3129 chassis or maybe a rodotron 666 chassis
in which case a massive amount if info is out there for these
in regards to your side compression this well documented on various forums, it is down to the value of the hv caps in the horizontal section

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 09:23:33 pm »
surely this is a wei ya 3129 chassis or maybe a rodotron 666 chassis
in which case a massive amount if info is out there for these
in regards to your side compression this well documented on various forums, it is down to the value of the hv caps in the horizontal section

Thanks for the leads! I was looking at the schematics for the 666 and unfortunately they are not the same. I had hoped that I could fix the side compression as documented here, but C86 on my chassis is a 1uF electrolytic radial.

I've also been looking at this thread, which describes my exact problem and attributes the horizontal compression to the VGA signal from my graphics card. I've setup my GroovyMAME profile based on a D9800 and have been meaning to experiment to get the exact monitor specs, but have not had the time. Regardless, since caps are failing on the chassis, I'll replace those then dive into the monitor profile.

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 01:19:47 pm »
do you have a photo of the chassis, if its not wei ya then perhaps its a rebranded kortek

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 03:35:43 pm »
do you have a photo of the chassis, if its not wei ya then perhaps its a rebranded kortek

It's still mounted in the machine. All markings on it are Billabs. The photos of the disassembly are here, maybe those could help?

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 06:42:10 pm »
pretty sure that is a wei ya m2929dc

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 05:24:12 am »
pretty sure that is a wei ya m2929dc

That's what I thought as well, but I've been working with Peter at arcadepartsandrepair.com on the cap kit and after going over the M2929 schematic, they are very close (85%), but slightly different.

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2018, 05:15:52 am »
About a dozen capacitors in and I have a few general observations:
  • Don't attempt to do this without a desoldering tool like the Hakko FR-301. It will be next to impossible for 72 caps.
  • Add a small amount of solder to existing joints and the Hakko will perform even better.
  • Tin the tip of the desoldering tool between each use to extend tip life.
  • After removing the existing cap, apply real RA flux to the pads to make soldering in the new cap a breeze.
  • If you're attempting to use desoldering braid on a difficult to reach component, soak the braid in flux first.
For this monitor specifically, the hardest thing to desolder so far was the RF shield on the neckboard. I removed as much solder from these small tabs as I could, but in the end I just heated the pad under the board released to get rid of the tiny amount left holding it together. By far the most difficult part to desolder was the tab on the bottom of the shield. I had to crank the desoldering tool up to 500 degrees with the largest tip and leave on the pad for almost ten seconds until the solder underneath the tab melted.

The VGA board was a cinch and the neckboard is almost done. I will post again when I begin the mainboard.
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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 04:19:20 am »
I decided against removing the flyback from the mainboard. It's a finicky operation since it's attached to a large heatsink. To support the board while it's upside down, I used an empty box and carboard shims to raise and level the heatsinks at either side of the board. The weight of the heatsinks is enough to snap the board if only one end is picked up, so I'm very careful to use my hand and forearm to support the whole board as I flip it over. My method is to desolder at least four of five caps before flipping the board over, minimizing handling time.

The large capacitors are actually easier to desolder than the small ones. I would recommend desoldering those your first time. I used a voltmeter to check the voltage of the caps and held a 10K resistor to them if any charge was left.

In some of the pictures you can see the nasty, yellow factory glue used to keep the caps in place. I had initially researched removing the glue using IPA (isopropyl alcohol), but after speaking with Peter, his suggestion was to just leave it. After desoldering the cap, it easily detaches from the glue just by carefully twisting and rocking it around.

Next up is the B+ filter and reassembly!
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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2018, 04:43:16 am »
The B+ filter was super easy to install. I reassembled everything, triple checking all my pictures and...... a pure white screen. Panic. Then the realization that I must have bumped the screen pot on the flyback, so I adjusted it down and things are perfect. Well, the edge squeezing is gone, but the corners of the monitor are still very blurry.

At lower Screen pot settings, making the picture darker, the focus is much better, but adjusting the top two pots on the flyback can't perfect anything other than the very center of the monitor. Leaving the screen pot darker isn't viable because the brightness/contrast settings don't go high enough to compensate. It's been like this since I bought it, however. Hopefully I'll find an adjustment at some point.

On the board I have:
  • B+ adjustment
  • HV adjustment
  • H center adjustment

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Re: Recapping a Billabs BL27CB0P
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 03:41:26 am »
I wound up fixing my focus issue by doing the following:
  • Adjusted the convergence rings to perfect convergence
  • Adjusted the three pots on the board above the yoke to align the corners better
  • Increased the Screen/G2 pot on the flyback and lowered the brightness and contrast on the OSD
  • Adjusted the focus pots on the flyback
The result is the best the picture has ever looked. There is maybe a one-inch square blurry patch in each of the corners, but it is still readable and not noticeable in game. I'd say this whole project has been a complete success. :)

  
 

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