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Why is Stranger Things sci-fi?
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yotsuya:
It’s a fun show. Why do you hate fun, Malenko?
Howard_Casto:
It's clearly not fantasy, there is no debate.  Fantastical things happen in all three genres, the explanation given for the fantastical things defines the genre.  If science is used as an explanation, then it's sci-fi.  If magic is explanation then it's fantasy.  If the occult is the explanation and/or if there is a high body count and there is an emphasis on scary/bloody events then it's horror.  Strangers things uses stuff like alternate dimensions and esp to explain away it's monsters, so it's sci-fi.  There are plenty of deaths though and I suppose to children it might be scary, so you might argue that it is horror, but definitely not fantasy as no magic is used and there isn't an orc, elf or dragon in the whole thing. 
Malenko:

--- Quote from: leapinlew on March 05, 2018, 09:10:44 pm ---I enjoy the setting. It's not like, the best thing ever, but it's a good fun watch.

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No doubt that they nailed the atmosphere of the mid 80s. I mean other than Barb driving around a 1988 VW Rabbit in 1983 , people interrupting each other on Walkie Talkies, and the side folding stock MP5s/airsoft guns, there was nothing glaringly bad.



--- Quote from: yotsuya on March 05, 2018, 10:10:13 pm ---It’s a fun show. Why do you hate fun, Malenko?

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It's not bad, it's just not that good. No one who likes the show ever thinks anything is bad, like they can't admit the episode that focused on Kali and her gang was god awful. Hopper is *easily* the best thing about that show.
pbj:
They play D&D and Galaga for 30 seconds and anything nerd culture is automatically called scifi these days.

I stick to the definition of a technological twist gives us the opportunity to explore moral issues, pointing towards Frankenstein as the wellspring, but that hasn't been the norm in scifi movies or books for decades.  Robert Sawyer is the only contemporary author I can think of in that area now.


Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: pbj on March 06, 2018, 11:03:27 am ---They play D&D and Galaga for 30 seconds and anything nerd culture is automatically called scifi these days.

I stick to the definition of a technological twist gives us the opportunity to explore moral issues, pointing towards Frankenstein as the wellspring, but that hasn't been the norm in scifi movies or books for decades.  Robert Sawyer is the only contemporary author I can think of in that area now.

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Heh... you can stick to that definition, but it isn't correct.  What I explained above is correct.  It's not my definition, but rather the only definition that various genre writers are willing to agree upon.  All three are essentially the same genre, but which mythos they draw upon for thier rules determines the sub-genre.  Moral questioning can't define scifi because those same moral questions are often explored in Horror and Fantasy as well.  I mean even your example contradicts it as Frankenstein is considered Horror and not sci-fi. 
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