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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2018, 12:13:18 pm »
Just finished a full writeup (tutorial) of the rotating monitor in case anyone wanted to see the details:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156671.0.html

Redid the back plate as I wanted to add a bearing to the shaft:
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2018, 09:10:43 am »
Big fan of all the fun stuff you are doing - thanks for the pics!
I didn't play the Tron game..  I have to figure out what the discs are all about  ;)
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2018, 12:01:18 pm »
Loving that new design.  Let's see some sawdust.   ;D

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2018, 12:11:51 pm »
omg!! that is so cool.

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #84 on: February 27, 2018, 11:01:12 am »
Big fan of all the fun stuff you are doing - thanks for the pics!
I didn't play the Tron game..  I have to figure out what the discs are all about  ;)

It's only the coolest game ever!  Discs of Tron was a pretty unique game it had a two way mirror for the display, and a TV below that displayed the video game.  The two way mirror allowed the background graphics (which was detailed artwork that a video game couldn't have produced at the time) to act as a backdrop for the "arena" where the characters moved around.  You have to see one in real life to really get it, but it was pretty awesome.




Loving that new design.  Let's see some sawdust.   ;D

I know right?  Definitely getting the itch to get going, but the idea you gave me requires a little more research, I've been in contact with a near by vendor to test this out.  Once I know if it will work then I can finalize the design (currently working on the control panel), and get started.

omg!! that is so cool.

Itís not as hard as it looks, just takes some time and patience.  Itís pretty cool in person when you get it going.

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2018, 08:51:47 pm »
This could prove interesting:


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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2018, 12:51:40 pm »
This could prove interesting:



That looks cool.  For the glow in the corners?

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2018, 01:28:13 pm »
That looks cool.  For the glow in the corners?

Yup.

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #88 on: March 31, 2018, 08:39:07 am »
What little bit of experimenting and testing are you working on now?  Since ..you know... full scale construction hasn't started.   ::)
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #89 on: March 31, 2018, 01:19:34 pm »
What little bit of experimenting and testing are you working on now?  Since ..you know... full scale construction hasn't started.   ::)

Hehe, great choice of words. 

I'm trying to prove out a number of things I've got in my head, hadn't had anything too interesting to post yet, but here's a preview:





Marquee in action:

https://youtu.be/zfl0rXXT_Ho

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2018, 06:15:22 pm »
Okay I like that!

Cut from the same cloth wp34.


So I decided it was time to get my hands dirty.  I did a quick SketchUp of a simple control panel box so that I could practice wood working, laminating, drilling, and the plans I have for a lit control panel.  I have virtually zero woodworking experience so I thought it would be helpful to post what I've learned in the same thread as I would have liked it when I was doing my research.

Sketchup:


First thing was build the box, simple right? Yeah no, not at all, this -steaming pile of meadow muffin- is hard.

First attempt:


Note the splintering near the bottom.  This can be minimized by making sure your saw blade is only just high enough to clear the top of your wood surface.  When you have the table saw teeth too high you get a lot more of this.  Also cutting across the grain like in the front panel on the picture is more likely to have this effect then cutting with the grain.

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I wanted to practice beveling corners.  So I picked up a 1/2Ē round over bit to practice.  (Side note, donít do what Iíd did and buy a 1/4Ē collett router, buy the 1/2Ē, gives you more flexibility to  use 1/4Ē and 1/2Ē bits).  Made the mistake of cutting the sides before doing the rounding, this made it next to impossible to cut the round over due to the short length.



So, I had to redo the front and back plates by first rounding over the sides:



Once that was done it was a lot easier to cut the front and back parts to size:



I wanted to practice getting an angle on the box as thatís my plan for my control panel.  The  front and back pieces are easier as you just set the table saw to angle (8 degrees in my case).  The sides are a bit harder as you need to use a miter (mine came with one as do most I think):



You feed you piece at an angle and keep the table saw straight.


When cutting angles you have to know what the highest and lowest point of the cut will be.  SketchUp really helped for me on this, however just using the closest connecting piece to the angle will also work.

Hereís where Iím at:





Thatís two days of work and Iím obviously far from finished.  If Iíd have seen this post before trying this out Iíd have thought, ok, itís a box, no big deal.  As many in here have said, itís a lot harder than it looks, but also incredibly satisfying when it fits together.

Wonít be able to tackle more for a couple of weeks. But looking forward to continuing, as bringing this off the computer is very exciting
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2018, 07:25:58 pm »
Looks good. Iíd use pocket holes and glue to eliminate that bracing. Looks thick and heavy.
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2018, 11:19:12 pm »
Good call doing some R&D first.  I did the same with my first build.  Plus woodwork is the best part of a build.    :cheers:

I agree with Yots about pocket holes.  Once you go Kreg you never go back. 

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2018, 11:40:54 pm »
Definitely gonna keep my eye on this project. it's looking AMAZING even in the early stages  :notworthy:

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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2018, 08:27:12 am »
Kreg jig and pocket holes will work great for this type of joinery.  They have a large assortment of jibs..  I use the Mini 99% of the time..  it costs $14

If your plywood is splintering on the table saw - you should get a zero clearance insert.  It comes blank and you raise the blade through it.  That way as the blade cuts downward, the insert supports the cross grain and prevents tear out.

It appears you used the router table with the fence closed? and put the wood in between the fence and the bit?  (hopefully not)
Do not use the router table that way - open the fence and adjust so that the bearing is flush with the front of the fence.  The you can put the piece through right to left.  The bit should be half hidden inside..  Much safer, less likely to throw the part..  and you can now use a block to support the piece vertically and slide it along the fence with the work piece.  The bit will not be in the way..  Hope this make sense.

Once you get to the real control panel... get cabinet grade plywood if you can..  It is far superior to the stuff you are using..  super flat and stiff..
Keep up the testing!!  Good post.
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Re: The Grid....(Redesign)
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2018, 02:00:33 pm »
Looks good. Iíd use pocket holes and glue to eliminate that bracing. Looks thick and heavy.

Iíd been handed one of those by my coworker and the thought hadnít even occurred to me.  Iíll definitely go that route based on everyoneís recommendations for this box. 

I was using these 3/4Ē battens as practice as I was planning on using them in the body of the cab.  Is that still overkill in that application?

I agree with Yots about pocket holes.  Once you go Kreg you never go back.

Sounds like a unanimous chorus.  Iíll do that.

Definitely gonna keep my eye on this project. it's looking AMAZING even in the early stages  :notworthy:

Thanks but as Iíve mentioned to some others Iíll bank any praise once I can get this thing actually built.  Good luck on your  DK project.

Kreg jig and pocket holes will work great for this type of joinery.  They have a large assortment of jibs..  I use the Mini 99% of the time..  it costs $14

If your plywood is splintering on the table saw - you should get a zero clearance insert.  It comes blank and you raise the blade through it.  That way as the blade cuts downward, the insert supports the cross grain and prevents tear out.

Good to know, thanks!
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It appears you used the router table with the fence closed? and put the wood in between the fence and the bit?  (hopefully not)

Uhhhh...nooo?    Yes, thatís exactly what I did😋.
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Do not use the router table that way - open the fence and adjust so that the bearing is flush with the front of the fence.  The you can put the piece through right to left.  The bit should be half hidden inside..  Much safer, less likely to throw the part..  and you can now use a block to support the piece vertically and slide it along the fence with the work piece.  The bit will not be in the way..  Hope this make sense.
Took a minute after reading this but now I understand what you mean.  Thought hadnít occurred to me that you could split the fence like that, and yes I had to hold tight on the part to make sure it didnít leap from my hands (probably should have figured that was a sign of a problem🧐).  Lesson number two:  If it takes a lot of force to do, Iím probably doing it wrong.

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Once you get to the real control panel... get cabinet grade plywood if you can..  It is far superior to the stuff you are using..  super flat and stiff..
Keep up the testing!!  Good post.

Thanks again, yes this was a quick dry run, I was eyeing what appeared to be better stuff at the Depot.

Landed in Japan late last night, itís 3am here and jet lag sucks.  Iím already scheming the bribes it will take to make it down to Kyoto and visit Nintendo.  Definitely post some picks if I can make it happen.

Also couldnít pass this up....they have real life Mario cart on the streets of Tokyo, no joke:


YOUTUBE video:
https://youtu.be/hJSFh5yeNjo

  
 

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