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| smass:
So I finally saw it. My take: It was fine for a popcorn and ju-ju bean movie. But this is not supposed to be a run of the mill science fiction movie, its freakin Star Wars! Sorry but I have high standards for the subject matter and have been repeatedly disappointed since the reboot with Episode 1. As usual, the script was cringeworthy. I had a particular hard time with Poe Dameron's plan to disable the tracking device. This plan involved disobeying direct orders, then we are supposed to stomach Finn's mission across the freakin' galaxy to hire a code breaker and get back in like 8 hours real time. Really? The worst was that this plan was directly responsible for the failure of Leia's cloaked retreat - which resulted in the deaths of 3/4 of the remaining resistance. But not to worry, after the dust settles Poe is in no particular trouble for almost killing everyone....WTF? :-\ I could go on with many other examples of things that really made me feel betrayed as a fan, but frankly its been discussed enough and at this point I am tired of dwelling on it. I have a ton of nostalgia for Star Wars - I remember standing in line for 8 hours to see Empire at the theaters. I just can't believe that the most valuable franchise in the world cannot hire a screenwriter and director who understand the Star Wars universe and can produce a movie with a cohesive and believable plot that builds on the metric ton of past lore. I guess they really just don't care. Here's hoping Abrams does something great with the next one, but I am not holding my breath... |
| Vigo:
--- Quote from: smass on January 02, 2018, 06:27:54 pm ---The worst was that this plan was directly responsible for the failure of Leia's cloaked retreat - which resulted in the deaths of 3/4 of the remaining resistance. But not to worry, after the dust settles Poe is in no particular trouble for almost killing everyone....WTF? :-\ --- End quote --- I actually appreciated the fact the plan failed miserably. Great throwback to Return of the Jedi where the plan to send Han and Leia through to endor on a stolen ship while simultaneously throwing the entire rebel fleet at a shield that could potentially kill them all if not disabled timely was a farce of a plan. The movie aptly showed how Leia matured from haphazard plans that many lives are hinged upon. The movie made a point to show you why the plan was terrible. And the fact that he is not in trouble...who really knew the plan is the reason the cloaked ship escape failed? Only Finn and Rose knew the reason everything fell to pieces (Benecio overheard the plot and sold the resistance out.) As far as Leia, the Jurassic Park lady and the other rebels knew, the empire just saw right through their plan, no reason to suspect anything else, and honestly not much time to even think about it. |
| pbj:
Finally watched this. Sort of. There's a decent telesync floating around with clear audio. After I saw Rogue One in theaters, I decided 'never again' unless the feedback was amazing. (I'm still at a loss why some think Rogue One was good.... I enjoyed Force Awakens) It seemed like absolutely nothing happened. I don't feel like anything new progressed with any of the main characters. Did any of them actually croak? Snoke seemed pointless. Yoda looked terrible. I'll give it a rewatch... but... :dunno |
| HaRuMaN:
Yoda was an actual puppet again I think. I did see Frank Oz in the credits... |
| yotsuya:
--- Quote from: HaRuMaN on January 04, 2018, 09:38:29 am ---Yoda was an actual puppet again I think. I did see Frank Oz in the credits... --- End quote --- Yeah, he was a puppet and not CGI this time. |
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