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Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:58:26 pm »
Hot take, no spoilers (yet)

I was wowed, I was moved to tears, I was moved to cheers!
Aaaaaaand...I was moved to CRINGE. HARD. Multiple times.
Still good movie.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2017, 09:07:05 pm »
This forum needs an ignore thread option.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 06:31:45 am »
This forum needs an ignore thread option.
Haha, fair enough. But then commenting makes sure you follow this thread...?

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 02:52:49 pm »
It was absolute garbage

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 09:06:27 pm »
It was absolute garbage

Meh, i wouldn't go that far.  It had some lows though.  "Leah Poppins" is one of them,  :lol.

A good amount of tension, though.  And it was nice to see them get away from the original trilogy's tropes.

It was a good while ago that i stopped expecting new ones to be as good as the OT.  I will always get the most enjoyment out of them.  The xbox KOTOR games come a close second.  Everything else is a different franchise in my mind, haha.

But hey, Disney now owns the rights to Star Wars '77 now, so at least we may FINALLY get a remastered, yet unmolested release of the OT.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 09:26:07 pm »
Impossible Lucas destroyed the originals.  However Google Despecialized versions and you can get pretty darn close thanks to the efforts of many dedicated and talented people.


And no one that calls themselves a Star Wars fan can forgive the evisceration of the character Luke Skywalker.  If you expect anyone to believe the garbage espoused by the character in TLJ you had better give me way more back story and motivation than was provided.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2017, 10:02:40 pm »
Star Wars sucks.






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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2017, 01:09:00 am »
I left the theater being extremely disappointed.   

Disney and some tool named Rian really dropped a stinker on us. I loved TFA and didn't care that it copied a lot from ANH. I still consider it a masterpiece and was blown away after seeing both TFA and Rogue One.

JJ has a hell of a mess to clean up when it comes to E9

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2017, 02:55:37 am »
I'll just leave this here:

Luke Skywalker Master Jedi drinking breast milk....

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2017, 09:13:19 am »
Yeah. Drinking milk is crazy. That is by far the craziest thing in a movie about space wizards.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2017, 02:31:33 pm »
6.5 out of 10.  Some nice ideas in the movie but it really feels like they went left instead of right just so they can say "see?  You weren't expecting that eh?".  The movie has too many moments that don't feel earned and a couple of moments that are stupid.  Some fantastic effects and a couple of earned moments made it entertaining overall.  It still also has better acting than the majority of the prequels.

As a whole I still feel I was entertained but the Star Wars geek part of the brain had to be parked.  That just isn't right.

As weird as it sounds for me to say this, somehow this movie elevated TFA to me because warts and all, at least TFA had the heart of SW.  This movie does not.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2017, 05:54:09 pm »
I saw it today. I think it's the best Star Wars movie outside of the original trilogy, of course it's not hard to top any Star Wars movie outside of the original trilogy... honestly I'm not that sure how I feel about it, but I will say Adam Driver does a much better job with his role as Kylo then Hayden Christensen as Anikin. And yeah the milk thing was dumb.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2017, 06:52:51 pm »
I actually enjoy all the emo Kylo Ren stuff. To me, itís normal and tangible for someone young to be so conflicted. It makes sense.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2017, 07:30:28 pm »
Especially someone so young with magic wizard powers. I hate to think what I would have acted like if I had those powers at a young age. Or now for that matter.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2017, 09:06:24 pm »
There is no diminishing  fuel in the Star Wars universe.
The slow chase was moronic, they would have just sent Ties and Boarding parties
The vacuum of space kills you
Still no satisfying details or backstory on Snoke, Finn, Phasma, Rey, Luke, or Kylo
Characters do not do what that character would do based on cannon
Allegory is horrible in Star Wars... always has been. One of the most horrible parts of the prequels, death sticks, pod racing, etc.
Death Star 2 recreated in salt mine
Other elements of Jedi recreated in Snokes throne room
New admiral looks like she was costumed for Harry Potter not Star Wars
Utter symbolic abuse of Anakins light sabre
No continuity from 7
Luke doesn't have green saber at end.... idiotic



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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2017, 09:43:14 pm »
Scene with Maz Kanata was stupid. Instead of being on some crappy projection in a pointless scene... why wasn't she more involved and perhaps Leia could've told her about what happened to Han? They could've had a moment there...

Why wasn't lando the codebreaker?

The opening crawl might as well showed TFA with this Rian dude taking a crap on it...




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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2017, 09:49:51 pm »
New admiral looks like she was costumed for Harry Potter not Star Wars

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I kept thinking Hunger Games but yeah Harry Potter is good too.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2017, 06:35:29 am »
The vacuum of space kills you

Not when that much botox is involved my friend.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 11:44:06 am »
Overall I enjoyed the movie. But since we are picking at it.

1. Making up Tech to enable your plot...Meh. Better to pull the hyperspace mesh ideas from the expanded universe books.
2. They tried to inject humor and failed most of the time. I did really laugh at least twice though.
3. I still feel that Rey no matter how powerful in the force would be able to do what she does with out training.
4. Are we really going to Vegas in the middle of a car chase?
5. In general security and protection measures in the SW universe seem to suck big time.
6. How do bombs drop in space?
7. The concept of Leia poppins (LOL BTW) could have worked But, Not like that. There was exactly a force ability in the RPGs that would explain that.
8. Adam Driver's performance in TLJ was better, but still to whiney.
9. I don't buy the Kylo/Luke backstory.
10. No one should pilot a star fighter without a helmet...just no.

Please take with a grain of salt. I could pick apart A New Hope Too...(but wont)
I enjoyed the movie and think it is much better than TFA. Much!

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2017, 05:36:48 pm »
There is no diminishing  fuel in the Star Wars universe. --- There is.... Look at ESB at the end. The ships that escorted the medical Frigate where fueling ships
The slow chase was moronic, they would have just sent Ties and Boarding parties ---- The cruiser still had cannons, plus why risk lives when you know they will be sitting ducks? Sound Strategy IMO.
The vacuum of space kills you--- Hated that scene
Still no satisfying details or backstory on Snoke, Finn, Phasma, Rey, Luke, or Kylo--- We dont need a back story to Phasma, like we dont need a back story to Boba Fett. Finn, Rey and Kylo have backstories. Snoke? who cares?
Characters do not do what that character would do based on cannon---- ????? Mind blown.
Allegory is horrible in Star Wars... always has been. One of the most horrible parts of the prequels, death sticks, pod racing, etc.
Death Star 2 recreated in salt mine---- what? are you talking about the falcon? Sigh... nit pick.
Other elements of Jedi recreated in Snokes throne room ---- So he worships Vader. Obviously he worships Palpatine, Plus its a bad ass room. Everyone evil should want one.
New admiral looks like she was costumed for Harry Potter not Star Wars --- Not an admiral... Just a temp for Leia. So who cares if she had purple hair?
Utter symbolic abuse of Anakins light sabre ????? What ????
No continuity from 7 What?????
Luke doesn't have green saber at end.... idiotic------ He doesn't have a lightsabre at all. I assume he chucked out the green one after the defeat from Kylo, either way Luke can have any color he chooses and he chose Blue.Seriously you are mad about that???

This is all so dumb.... wrong wrong wrong. If you don't like Star Wars stop watching it thinking it will spark something inside of you like when you were 8 years old.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2017, 05:38:22 pm »
Scene with Maz Kanata was stupid. Instead of being on some crappy projection in a pointless scene... why wasn't she more involved and perhaps Leia could've told her about what happened to Han? They could've had a moment there...

Why wasn't lando the codebreaker?

The opening crawl might as well showed TFA with this Rian dude taking a crap on it...

What???? This makes no sense either..... Lando? Why drag another aging character in this saga? He never even hinted at being a code breaker in the OT. Why do you want him to be one now?
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2017, 06:10:17 pm »
I thought this movie is about as near perfect a Star Wars movie as you are going to get. There were so many great great scenes.. The moment Luke had with R2, was fantastic! R2 is the reason Luke is not tending to some moisture farm, plus when he showed Luke the Hologram from A New Hope??? The moment with Yoda (props for bringing back the puppet from ESB and ROTJ). Great scene.  I mean those are two HUGE moments and people are on here saying Rian crapped on Star Wars?

All of the costumes where great... the kid at the end of the movie was such a powerful scene... anyone can be one with the force. You don't have to be a Skywalker to be a hero. I thought that was a great way to end it. The broom stick shining with the glow of the moon, made it look like a lightsabre.... amazing!

What I liked about the OT is the fact that they told a very small story in the context of a galaxy sized war. In the prequels they told a Large story (or tried too...) and it didn't work. This movie with the chase scene specificly is small in scale, yet it was powerful and full of drama and death. The Empire never got that close to wiping out the Rebels in the OT... every ship that ran out of fuel, almost every escape pod... destroyed. Small story told in a larger setting. I loved it. I loved that the hero's plan didn't work, I thought that was fresh and took balls of steel for Rian to do that. It shows that these hero's are still learning, which was yoda's whole point and one of the themes of the movie.

I loved that Rey's parents are nobody's... I was secretly hoping that she was a new hero, a new Jedi. Not a Skywalker, not a Kenobi and that foolishness... it opens up the universe. It shows that there are force sensitive creatures out there that can be taught. It shows that everyone can be a hero.

I loved the fact that Luke wasn't the same whiny kid who wanted to save the Universe, and was foolish to a fault. He grew up... he made mistakes he became withdrawn and he beat himself up over it. He learned that the force doesn't belong to the Jedi or the Sith... and that the Jedi where vane... And they were! Think about the vanity the Jedi had in the Prequels. Look at how they screwed up Anakin. Look how they wanted power just as much as the Sith.

I have heard people saying that they keep slaughtering their childhood hero's. I see that they killed off Solo... but Luke is different. They didn't kill him off... this was the way Luke can help the cause. Becoming one with the force allows him to train rey, and to be there to guide her. It was essentially Lukes way of joining up with the Rebellion and helping in a different capacity. Luke is Legend, he is also a force ghost now. And I don't know about you guys but the idea of Luke being a force ghost a la Obiwan gets me all geeked up! Luke was fantastic in the whole movie, I really thought that this was Mark Hamills best performances as an actor. He really looked conflicted. You could feel his pain.

I also want to say that Rey (Daisy Ridley) is fantastic, She can act with the best of them. The way she plays Rey is just incredible and Strong yet so vulnerable. It's a balance that Daisy pulls off!

I liked the Casino... I thought it was a great way to show that the retched hive of scum and villainy is true to both classes. It was a great way of demonstrated that there is a very fine line between good and evil and that sometimes good still isn't as good as you would think. No one is innocent in war.

What else????

I thought the humor hit more than it missed... the opening joke with Poe was good, but then was over stretched and they stuck with it too long. But other than that, the scenes with the Porgs, and the caretakers where funny. We definitely have taken massive steps from Jar Jar stepping in Poodoo.... lol

I loved the connection between Rey and Kylo, I loved how they teamed up and killed Snoke. And fought the guards. It was one of the best lightsabre fights since Episode I. I also thought that it was great how after the fight, both thought that the other was going to join their side. Kylo thought he had Rey turned, Rey thought he was going to be good... but both lost in the end. And now lines have been drawn.

I really really loved it. I thought that everything I thought was going to happen, didn't. No one watching that movie could have predicted how everything was going to shake out. It was so entertaining!

My last point is this... I am glad he didn't JJ this movie. This movie isn't riddled with question marks, or unanswered questions. It ended with an ending. The movie sets up the CONTINUING story of Luke, Rey, Finn, Poe. JJ has been throwing that lazing film making ever since the TV show Lost.... yet so many people bite onto that crap hook line and sinker.  Thank you Rian for a great film!

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2017, 06:11:42 pm »
Scene with Maz Kanata was stupid. Instead of being on some crappy projection in a pointless scene... why wasn't she more involved and perhaps Leia could've told her about what happened to Han? They could've had a moment there...

Why wasn't lando the codebreaker?

The opening crawl might as well showed TFA with this Rian dude taking a crap on it...

What???? This makes no sense either..... Lando? Why drag another aging character in this saga? He never even hinted at being a code breaker in the OT. Why do you want him to be one now?


And another thing about Lando... Poor Wedge blew up two Death Stars and helped evacuate the Rebel base on Hoth, yet Lando became the General???? Please.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2017, 10:26:39 pm »
I loved that Rey's parents are nobody's... I was secretly hoping that she was a new hero, a new Jedi. Not a Skywalker, not a Kenobi and that foolishness... it opens up the universe. It shows that there are force sensitive creatures out there that can be taught. It shows that everyone can be a hero.

Was that actually established?  Didn't that info come from the bad guys who were trying to manipulate her?

I enjoyed it.  I'm not into star wars enough to worry about "canon" and such, so it's probably easier for me to just enjoy it.

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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2017, 09:16:24 am »
I loved that Rey's parents are nobody's... I was secretly hoping that she was a new hero, a new Jedi. Not a Skywalker, not a Kenobi and that foolishness... it opens up the universe. It shows that there are force sensitive creatures out there that can be taught. It shows that everyone can be a hero.

Was that actually established?  Didn't that info come from the bad guys who were trying to manipulate her?

I enjoyed it.  I'm not into star wars enough to worry about "canon" and such, so it's probably easier for me to just enjoy it.

I almost jumped out of my chair when the bad guys said that... I hope it's true. Until I hear otherwise I thought it was bold move.
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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2017, 09:36:10 am »
Why does everyone seem to want Rey to be related to someone we know in Star Wars? Doesn't that make the universe way smaller?
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2017, 09:44:08 am »
I am so sick of apologists telling me I can't like something because I have unrealistic expectations.

I'm sorry I don't get off on Bombs falling in space and just accepting that there is a map to a guy that doesn't want to be found and suddenly after 35 years doesn't care at all for his father's light sabre that his beloved mentor gave him, his father whom he watched lovingly burn in a pyre on Endor with the satisfaction that he had brought him back to the light.  But Kylo was emo so he had to lose all faith and try to kill him...

Is there something that explains all that, maybe but don't try to argue that it's three different recalls of that moment in this film.  It's utter garbage.

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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2017, 02:05:59 pm »
Bombs falling in space

The ship is so massive, it has it's own gravity field.
or
The gravity field generated so people can walk around inside the ship as if they're not in space extends beyond the top of the ship.
or
There has always been earth level gravity everywhere in the Star Wars Universe regardless of what planet or ship people are on.  It's keeping with canon.

EDIT: or the bombs generate their own gravity field between themselves and the target.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2017, 02:15:42 pm »
Saw it last night.  Absolutely loved it.

I'm not seeing any of the "bad" that folks are trying to pile on it.  I'm gonna go see it again, cause I know for a fact I missed little details throughout the movie.  Heck, my son has seen it three times now and missed  the Jedi texts in the drawer on the Falcon!  No wonder Yoda was so cool with nuking the temple!.

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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2017, 02:28:34 pm »
My last point is this... I am glad he didn't JJ this movie. This movie isn't riddled with question marks, or unanswered questions. It ended with an ending.

Yes, you're so right. Now there's no reason to give a crap about E9 because everyone in the story has been established to be nobodies. Why should I care about them? *yawns*
There is nothing left of interest left to discover or wonder about in this trilogy. None of it matters any longer. It is very apparent they haven't thought out the story over the 3 movies at all and they are just coming up with ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on the fly. I really don't see the need for an Episode 9 now there is nothing to resolve.

I mean I could've loved it for being different, but I disliked it for being poorly written, badly paced, and including some unnecessary characters that actively detracted from the experience. That's in addition to plot holes large enough to drive a truck through.

At the beginning of TFA Finn is a scared and frightened mess that can hardly shoot his blaster and now he can kamikaze a ship for some Asian girl he's only known for 12 hours.... Yeah right

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1144960

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/12/23/the-audience-strikes-back-last-jedis-77-fri-to-fri-plunge-is-worst-ever-for-a-star-wars-pic/#60be559457fa

 

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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2017, 03:04:37 pm »
I agree with B2K24 100%

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2017, 03:10:46 pm »
I had a good time at the movie but didn't really care for it if that makes any sense.  There are a ton of creative and exciting sequences but much of it fell flat for me.  Its the 9th best Star Wars film in my opinion. 

...and just accepting that there is a map to a guy that doesn't want to be found and suddenly after 35 years doesn't care at all for his father's light sabre that his beloved mentor gave him, his father whom he watched lovingly burn in a pyre on Endor with the satisfaction that he had brought him back to the light.  But Kylo was emo so he had to lose all faith and try to kill him...


This is my problem with the movie.  The ruined the Luke character for me.  Even my wife (who isn't a Star Wars nut like me) didn't understand the disparity between Luke's behavior in Jedi towards his father and then Kylo in the flashback.  I get what they were trying to do it just didn't work for me.

I understand Disney's desire to move away from the Skywalker clan but don't understand their hurry.  They seem set to make a Star Wars movie every 12-18 months.  They could have given us a satisfying Skywalker trilogy and then made a move away at that rate of production.  The three original leads were never on screen together in the last two episodes and now we will never get the chance to see them reunited.


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Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2017, 04:36:11 pm »
I had a good time at the movie but didn't really care for it if that makes any sense.  There are a ton of creative and exciting sequences but much of it fell flat for me.  Its the 9th best Star Wars film in my opinion. 

...and just accepting that there is a map to a guy that doesn't want to be found and suddenly after 35 years doesn't care at all for his father's light sabre that his beloved mentor gave him, his father whom he watched lovingly burn in a pyre on Endor with the satisfaction that he had brought him back to the light.  But Kylo was emo so he had to lose all faith and try to kill him...


This is my problem with the movie.  The ruined the Luke character for me.  Even my wife (who isn't a Star Wars nut like me) didn't understand the disparity between Luke's behavior in Jedi towards his father and then Kylo in the flashback.  I get what they were trying to do it just didn't work for me.

I understand Disney's desire to move away from the Skywalker clan but don't understand their hurry.  They seem set to make a Star Wars movie every 12-18 months.  They could have given us a satisfying Skywalker trilogy and then made a move away at that rate of production.  The three original leads were never on screen together in the last two episodes and now we will never get the chance to see them reunited.

I need to see it again, but I get where youíre getting from. I didnít hate it, but I feel very underwhelmed.

I would really liked for them to have flushed out more of Lukeís story with Kylo Ren. Why did he fall? How did Snoke could play into this? How was everything else going with the other Jedi that Luke was training? That wouldíve gone a long way towards explaining Lukeís motivation to me.

Iím cool with Emo Kylo Ren, I just want to know what happened to make him turn against his family the way he did. I donít feel like theyíve adequately explained that yet.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2017, 04:40:23 pm »
Oh, and count me in as part of the ďIím happy Rey was not Lukeís illegitimate daughter or she and Ben were separated at birth or some other nonsense like thatĒ group.
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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2017, 05:33:31 pm »
This is a trilogy?  I thought they were just going to keep coming out with one every year indefinitely.





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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2017, 07:36:09 pm »
I had a good time at the movie but didn't really care for it if that makes any sense.  There are a ton of creative and exciting sequences but much of it fell flat for me.  Its the 9th best Star Wars film in my opinion. 

...and just accepting that there is a map to a guy that doesn't want to be found and suddenly after 35 years doesn't care at all for his father's light sabre that his beloved mentor gave him, his father whom he watched lovingly burn in a pyre on Endor with the satisfaction that he had brought him back to the light.  But Kylo was emo so he had to lose all faith and try to kill him...


This is my problem with the movie.  The ruined the Luke character for me.  Even my wife (who isn't a Star Wars nut like me) didn't understand the disparity between Luke's behavior in Jedi towards his father and then Kylo in the flashback.  I get what they were trying to do it just didn't work for me.

I understand Disney's desire to move away from the Skywalker clan but don't understand their hurry.  They seem set to make a Star Wars movie every 12-18 months.  They could have given us a satisfying Skywalker trilogy and then made a move away at that rate of production.  The three original leads were never on screen together in the last two episodes and now we will never get the chance to see them reunited.

I need to see it again, but I get where youíre getting from. I didnít hate it, but I feel very underwhelmed.

I would really liked for them to have flushed out more of Lukeís story with Kylo Ren. Why did he fall? How did Snoke could play into this? How was everything else going with the other Jedi that Luke was training? That wouldíve gone a long way towards explaining Lukeís motivation to me.

Iím cool with Emo Kylo Ren, I just want to know what happened to make him turn against his family the way he did. I donít feel like theyíve adequately explained that yet.

To be honest they don't need to flush anything out for me at this point.  This was the first Star Wars movie I ever left not caring what happens next.  I don't mean that to say I was angry I just literally don't care.  They could stop making movies now and I'd be fine.  Especially after they raise a lot of "mysteries" in EP7 and then just decide (with EP8) to either drop them or make you feel dumb for caring in the first place.

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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2017, 08:00:14 pm »
That is where I'm at complety WP, total apathy.  I may see the Solo and Kenobi films.... But I simply don't care about future installments if this is to be the standard treatment.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2017, 02:58:58 pm »
https://youtu.be/mp9QHrKlV54

Great video. It is exactly what I believe is going on here...

And I am no apologist... I hated the prequels, I even didn't care for the first half of Rogue One, Nor did I like the fact that The Force Awakens is a shot for shot remake of A New Hope. I am sick of people giving no real good excuses why this movie sucks... Just bombs fell in space? Yes... again those are legit regular bombs that need gravity to fall.... come on.

I thought it was brave to make Luke a flawed human. The video goes into better details.. but I am done arguing about it. Just know that I thought it was original and one of the best made Star Wars movies ever. I am glad he put out this movie. And I am glad Disney didn't veto him and fire him halfway through production.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2017, 03:02:54 pm »


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I really don't see the need for an Episode 9 now there is nothing to resolve.

Nothing left to see? What? They have to start the Rebellion from scratch! It has a very smooth feeling of continuation like A New Hope did...

 
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« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2017, 10:40:27 pm »
I was glad I kept all of my expectations in check when I went to see this on Saturday.  This film is much more story focused, so I can take in how important it stands in this part of the trilogy.  My only concern now is that the changes made by this director (aside from Fisher's passing) don't interfere with the plot that J.J. has planned for the next film, because this whole series should have been planned ahead instead of just one film at a time.

I'm aware that it's now more a clean slate then ever and there's no reason not to add time to the events that happen afterwards, rather then just taking off right away as this sequel did.  The stories of "The Resistance" need room to build on their own accord instead of another movie heading it off.  As I remember a lot has happened in between A New Hope and Empire because of a 5 year span, so this trilogy needs about the same or there will never be a proper series for it.
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« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2017, 11:21:45 pm »
The vacuum of Space\people being in Space none of that exists in Star Wars. By ignoring anything that could be considered to scifi and only focusing on the fantasy is how Star Wars works.

Think about it, all ships have gravity, if anything needs repairing it will be in the basement of the ship never outside; ships can fly in and out of bays with some air only force field. For how many times they have shown a half build death star from far away not even once did get close and maybe show some Wall-E like space droids building it, apparently even that would bring up to many other questions.

Why did he decide to make the dangers of space a thing in this movie, no ideaÖ didn't they almost get eaten by a giant worm on an asteroid in the first movie?

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2017, 02:09:15 pm »
Prefacing my opinion with the statement that I think Star Wars movies were permanently ruined by Lucas' ego.  He is a terrible writer, and he proved it in Ep 1-3.  On top of that, he threw out some really good writing that he had already sold to the fans as authorized stories.  All so that he could be the one to write the screenplay.  I hate the man for it, and frankly, you can't even recover from what he did even with a time travel reboot.

So, that being said, I go into each Star Wars movie with the goal of being entertained.  There is no way it can be "great" again, so I just want to be entertained.

In this movie, I started out disappointed.  Then I was further disappointed.  And it got worse....

Then suddenly it started getting good again.  The action and effects were entertaining, and despite the simplistic and underwhelming plot, I still found myself on the edge of my seat.  And there were actually some scenes that surprised me.  In the end I walked away from the theater in a good mood, happy to have seen it and in no way upset at the money I had spent.  Even my girlfriend who is not a Star Wars fan at all enjoyed it.

Now for a couple comments with spoilers:
I liked that Luke finally "stepped up" in the end, and I can see him being so devastated by his failure that he shut himself off from the force completely and stopped caring about the rest of the universe.  He accepted that his "saving the galaxy" was really just a fluke that only resulted in more people dying in the end.  When you think about it, his actions, and the actions of his sister, resulted in so many more lost lives than if they had just let the Empire reign.  And even after winning back the galaxy and restoring the Republic, look how quickly the galaxy let another "emperor" take over.  Granted, he blew up a few hundred billion people, but the weapon he used to do that was destroyed and yet all the other planets kept supporting him.  So while it was great that Luke and Leia defeated the emperor against all odds, in the end it only meant a lot of lives lost.  Add to that the fact that their own father was pretty much responsible for the Empire coming to power to begin with and you can say that the Skywalkers pretty much totally ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- the whole galaxy up and killed hundreds of billions of people.  You can't tell me that a legacy like that wouldn't make you want to become a milk drinking recluse...

The funny thing about that whole scene with Luke and Kylo is that I figured it was plausible that he could survive the maelstrom of laser cannon fire without a scratch and didn't even blink at the absurdity of it.  I completely missed that he was not leaving red footprints, and I didn't even consider why he suddenly looked 10 years younger.  It was when he popped the blue lightsaber that Kylo and Rey had just destroyed that I realized something was up, but I wasn't thinking about it really hard because the whole scene was so enjoyable.  I think it was all because I expected this fight scene.  And although a real fight between them would have been the height of shallow story telling, I still wanted it to happen.  So badly that although I was on my guard about the blue lightsaber, I still didn't expect that he wasn't even on the planet until it became completely obvious.  With so many obvious hints, it takes an engrossing scene and a bit of emotion to still not notice it.  I like movies that can do that to me - not just a suspension of disbelief, but making it so enjoyable to watch that I stop thinking about what they are doing wrong.

Speaking of wrong, there were so many scenes that screamed "wrong" to me that when Luke popped the blue lightsaber, I actually thought they were so stupid at Disney that they completely forgot they just destroyed that light saber and that Luke's was green, not blue.


So despite all the really REALLY bad writing, the terrible pace of the first 60% of the movie, the horribly awkward scenes, the worst failure of suspension of disbelief since 6 shot revolvers could fire 50 times without reloading, and some cases of feeling like the entire Star Wars universe was being openly mocked and disrespected, it got damn good in the latter half and I walked away enjoying it.


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« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2017, 04:57:59 pm »
I think we're past needing to block out spoilers.

During the whole Luke/Kylo scene I was cussing under my breath that it better not really be him or else Just for Men must be available on that damn island.

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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2017, 05:28:02 pm »
During the whole Luke/Kylo scene I was cussing under my breath that it better not really be him or else Just for Men must be available on that damn island.

 :cheers:

Has the director ever said why he made Luke's image look younger in that scene?  It took me completely out of the movie and made me start looking for clues that he wasn't really there.

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« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2017, 08:50:40 pm »
I thought it made sense for him to appear as Kylo remembered him; the man he hated instead of a pathetic old man who Kylo might take a minute to ponder.

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« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2017, 10:30:36 pm »
so I'm the only one who was irritated the First order had the last of the resistance pinned, literally down to a few escape pods and they never called in more ships? This is compounded by the fact the last part of the "chase" supposedly took place over like 18 hours so there was ample time for more ships to show up.

I didn't hate this movie, but I liked Rogue One and Force Awakens much more.

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« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2017, 02:55:42 pm »
I honestly think that the internet is ruining movies.

I can't imagine that many here would feel so great about the plot of the original trilogy if the movies came out today. Let's just take the most beloved, Empire. Empire makes zero sense why Vader's brilliant play is to create a convoluted plan to assume Luke would become a powerful enough Jedi to sense his friends in danger, and use that assumption to lure Luke across the galaxy to get him to walk over a trap door. A trap door that a jedi of any decency can hop out of.

The Millenium Falcon, the ship Vader is so desperate to obtain, is left intentionally unguarded, so to let the leader of the rebellion, Leia, can run away in it. Don't worry, good ol' Darth has has a brilliant plan too. He turned off the warp drive, it's cool. It only needed to be switched back on, but those Rebels will never figure that one out. Leia is a top leader of the rebellion so letting her almost escape seems like the smartest route to go. And hey, you tested that carbonite machine once, why even bother using it to imprison Leia, that will take an extra 5 minutes.

And speaking of carbonite, what does Vader do with Han? He gives him away to some outskirts bounty hunter and leaves him unchecked, Vader, the guy who chokes people to death because they irritate him, has no grudge against the dude who knocked him out of the sky and let Luke fly in to destroy the death star? Naw, just let him go. And heck, after Luke, Chewie and Leia escape Vader's clutches, there is no worry they will go back and rescue him, right? I mean, the rebellion threatens the galactic empire, but pulling him out of a remote desert palace seems like just too risky of an effort.  ::)



I get that The Last Jedi didn't exhibit full character continuity or show smart and savvy space battle tactics. That irritated me as well, but at some point you gotta admit that these movies are being held to a pretty unfair standard. I let my guard down on these movies intentionally and this movie is entertaining and gave me a good feeling that I am not gonna curmudgeonly destroy for myself. There is a lot of Star Wars magic and lore to be had from this movie, and I was genuinely positively surprised at many of the turns the movie took.

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« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2017, 03:01:36 pm »
so I'm the only one who was irritated the First order had the last of the resistance pinned, literally down to a few escape pods and they never called in more ships? This is compounded by the fact the last part of the "chase" supposedly took place over like 18 hours so there was ample time for more ships to show up.

I agree, although from my above post it obviously didn't ruin the movie for me. The ships were going in a straight line, so a ship in the fleet could have also have warped about an hour ahead of the fleet and let the rebels fly straight into them. I also was surprised the first order fleet was so slow, given that a fast ship like the millenium falcon needed an asteroid field to escape the empires star destroyer's when warp wasn't an option. If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

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« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2017, 05:23:52 pm »
If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

...That and flying space Leia...took me right out of the movie.

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« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2017, 07:23:51 pm »
Perfect point about ESB and the pursuit of the millennium falcon.  There is zero excuse for a plot point as bad as this to be in a modern star wars movie.  I understand your point about internet fan boys Vigo, but i just can't get excited of Disney's trilogy.  I have hope for the Solo and Kenobi films I think stand alone films within the restrictions of the established universe work better for producing a film that I can enjoy.  Even with it's problems Rogue one has been the only Disney offering I've enjoyed.

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« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2017, 11:07:58 am »
so I'm the only one who was irritated the First order had the last of the resistance pinned, literally down to a few escape pods and they never called in more ships? This is compounded by the fact the last part of the "chase" supposedly took place over like 18 hours so there was ample time for more ships to show up.

I didn't hate this movie, but I liked Rogue One and Force Awakens much more.

I guess (after a bit of digging) that was NOT the last of the Resistance. I guess they were spread out, because there where quite a bit of fighter pilots from TFA that never showed up in TLJ. Add the fact that the First Order isn't as big as I thought they were.... I mean it makes sense, they are not the empire, they are only a fraction of the size.

But I will say this.... That Star Destroyer thing that was chasing the capital ship of the rebels did have Ion Canons. Same Ion cannons that they used on Hoth to disable the Star Destroyer so the rebel transports can get away... The same Ion cannons that the Y-wings used in Rogue One to disable a Star Destroyer so that the battering ram ship could make the two Star Destroyers crash into each other.

So why not shoot this rebel cruiser with the Ion cannon and be done with it? Sounds way more easy and efficient than chasing this ship.
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« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2017, 11:08:55 am »
Perfect point about ESB and the pursuit of the millennium falcon.  There is zero excuse for a plot point as bad as this to be in a modern star wars movie.  I understand your point about internet fan boys Vigo, but i just can't get excited of Disney's trilogy.  I have hope for the Solo and Kenobi films I think stand alone films within the restrictions of the established universe work better for producing a film that I can enjoy.  Even with it's problems Rogue one has been the only Disney offering I've enjoyed.

Bro, I know you have a picky taste, so I ain't faulting you. Just surprised that by reading this thread, the general vibe is that this movie is garbage. You would think that this is an episode 1 grade bomb. Script issues and out of place scenes is an entirely different issue from poor acting and terrible plot.


If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

...That and flying space Leia...took me right out of the movie.

Haha, yeah. You know they were just trolling us on Leia's death that whole movie. That scene would have been edited to 3 seconds if not for the death of Carrie Fisher.

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« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2017, 11:09:44 am »
I honestly think that the internet is ruining movies.

I can't imagine that many here would feel so great about the plot of the original trilogy if the movies came out today. Let's just take the most beloved, Empire. Empire makes zero sense why Vader's brilliant play is to create a convoluted plan to assume Luke would become a powerful enough Jedi to sense his friends in danger, and use that assumption to lure Luke across the galaxy to get him to walk over a trap door. A trap door that a jedi of any decency can hop out of.

The Millenium Falcon, the ship Vader is so desperate to obtain, is left intentionally unguarded, so to let the leader of the rebellion, Leia, can run away in it. Don't worry, good ol' Darth has has a brilliant plan too. He turned off the warp drive, it's cool. It only needed to be switched back on, but those Rebels will never figure that one out. Leia is a top leader of the rebellion so letting her almost escape seems like the smartest route to go. And hey, you tested that carbonite machine once, why even bother using it to imprison Leia, that will take an extra 5 minutes.

And speaking of carbonite, what does Vader do with Han? He gives him away to some outskirts bounty hunter and leaves him unchecked, Vader, the guy who chokes people to death because they irritate him, has no grudge against the dude who knocked him out of the sky and let Luke fly in to destroy the death star? Naw, just let him go. And heck, after Luke, Chewie and Leia escape Vader's clutches, there is no worry they will go back and rescue him, right? I mean, the rebellion threatens the galactic empire, but pulling him out of a remote desert palace seems like just too risky of an effort.  ::)



I get that The Last Jedi didn't exhibit full character continuity or show smart and savvy space battle tactics. That irritated me as well, but at some point you gotta admit that these movies are being held to a pretty unfair standard. I let my guard down on these movies intentionally and this movie is entertaining and gave me a good feeling that I am not gonna curmudgeonly destroy for myself. There is a lot of Star Wars magic and lore to be had from this movie, and I was genuinely positively surprised at many of the turns the movie took.

Not to mention Empire Strikes back had a LOT of critics back in the day. But now everyone thinks it's the best movie.  I agree the internet does ruin movies though.
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« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2017, 11:10:21 am »
If there was one thing that stuck out as a poor spot of the film, this weird, extremely long chase is it.

...That and flying space Leia...took me right out of the movie.

I agree... that was cringe worthy.
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« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2017, 11:21:54 am »
Perfect point about ESB and the pursuit of the millennium falcon.  There is zero excuse for a plot point as bad as this to be in a modern star wars movie.  I understand your point about internet fan boys Vigo, but i just can't get excited of Disney's trilogy.  I have hope for the Solo and Kenobi films I think stand alone films within the restrictions of the established universe work better for producing a film that I can enjoy.  Even with it's problems Rogue one has been the only Disney offering I've enjoyed.

Ha ha ha.... That is funny Harvey.... only because I am really dreading the Han Solo movie. We are just destined to be on the opposite ends of the spectrum. No worries though, it's nothing personal! I am afraid that they are going to just show us too much about Hans back story, instead of really pushing the universe. I really don't want to see how he meets chewy, or gets the Falcon. Just like I didn't want to see Vader as a kid racing with pod racers and yelling yippee! And I don't want a back story for Boba Fett, nor do I want a back story for Yoda. These characters are great because they are a bit of a mystery. The only way Boba Fett movie would work for me, if he was on a mission hunting a dangerous character in the underbelly of the Star Wars universe. I think that would be cool. The Obiwan movie does have me a bit curious though. 

As far as Solo is concerned I think the only guy who could play Han Solo is Harrison Ford. Harrison just has a natural charisma about him. He isn't a great actor, but he has so much charisma that any movie he makes, he stands out. He is one of my favorite actors, I doubt they will find someone with half the amount of badassery.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2017, 11:35:15 am »

I guess (after a bit of digging) that was NOT the last of the Resistance.

Doesn't matter , they couldn't kill them off. You're telling me that if you were in charge you wouldn't try to overkill the resistance people in that group knowing Leia was there? You wouldn't call in more ships? get a couple juggernauts in on that action?  You'd keep firing on the escape pods instead of going ahead and finishing off their cruiser? They didnt ignore the medical ship, they blew that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- up like a BOSS.

The entire movie was hinged on such a lame pretense, and that's ultimately what made me not enjoy it.   Make it some kind of hide and seek chase with the empire and not a movie about coasting in neutral downhill to save gas and it would have been better. I can accept space zombie force using Leia more than first order doesn't call in more ships or scramble tie fghters to take out escape pods.   When you make the bad guys that incompetent you stop giving a ---fudgesicle--- about beating them.


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« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2017, 11:56:19 am »

I guess (after a bit of digging) that was NOT the last of the Resistance.

Doesn't matter , they couldn't kill them off. You're telling me that if you were in charge you wouldn't try to overkill the resistance people in that group knowing Leia was there? You wouldn't call in more ships? get a couple juggernauts in on that action?  You'd keep firing on the escape pods instead of going ahead and finishing off their cruiser? They didnt ignore the medical ship, they blew that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- up like a BOSS.

The entire movie was hinged on such a lame pretense, and that's ultimately what made me not enjoy it.   Make it some kind of hide and seek chase with the empire and not a movie about coasting in neutral downhill to save gas and it would have been better. I can accept space zombie force using Leia more than first order doesn't call in more ships or scramble tie fghters to take out escape pods.   When you make the bad guys that incompetent you stop giving a ---fudgesicle--- about beating them.


also, dont triple reply, just put it all in 1 post.


I get it.... I agree with you. Yes destroy. I am saying maybe they didn't have any more ships. They destroyed the medical ship up because that lost fuel. Just like the main cruiser was going to. It was a safe strategy I agree. I would not have done that myself.

And I will post 8 times if I want... don't be a dick. Each post was a response to a different member. 
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2017, 12:02:10 pm »

And I will post 8 times if I want... don't be a dick. Each post was a response to a different member.

good talk, being super aggressive for no reason is definitely the key to casual conversation.    And I agree, I'm sure the first order rules the galaxy from the last 5 ships you see on screen.

Finn and Rose crash in front of the heavily guarded battering cannon, first order is under a "no prisoners" order.  How did they get all the way back to the mine with no transportation with imperial walkers and ships around.

During the chase 3 ships ran out of fuel,  its established that the fuel for crusing and the fuel for light speed is separate. Why not send the support ships at the destroyers at light speed to destroy them, they were dead to rights anyway.  Optionally why didnt they split up to buy time if they didnt wanna go all kamikaze

The imperial ships also didnt have fuel issues, so they could have jumped to light speed twice , once at a bit of an angle, and a second time to come back and be ahead of the rebels.

the ground around where the Fake Luke was got blasted to bits, but when Kylo hops down, its unscathed.



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« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2017, 01:45:51 pm »
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« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2017, 11:16:34 am »
Well I finally went to see it last night, and what a major disappointment it was.

After the surprisingly excellent Rogue One, I had dared to hope that maybe, just maybe, the Star Wars franchise was back on track again. Unfortunately, my hopes were cruelly dashed by this latest utterly mediocre offering. To be fair, it wasn't actually terrible, but it wasn't very good either, just mediocre.

It exhibited all the flaws we see in most modern Hollywood blockbusters Ė overlong, badly paced, superficial character development and backstory, constantly misfiring humour, etc. It also managed to be incoherent in places, which is quite an achievement given how simple the underlying plot actually is.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2017, 01:37:18 pm »
These guys are always my favorite reviewers:
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2017, 04:29:19 pm »
These guys are always my favorite reviewers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9hwGZFPSmw

46 minutes is an instant no. Not as bad as Kevin Smith's ego stroking 90 minute review (that I also didnt watch but read some cliff notes on)
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« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2017, 04:31:16 pm »

Anyway, here's the obligatory review by our good friend Adolf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akQEuWNF7cU

Man, that's one of the best Hilter reuses Ive ever seen and I've seen a ton of them. That Chewie point...... so perfect.  I also agree 100% with your assessment.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2017, 04:32:02 pm »
3RD POST BECAUSE ITS NOT AGAINST THE RULES AND JUST PERSONAL PREFERENCE!!!!!

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« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2017, 04:36:11 pm »

Anyway, here's the obligatory review by our good friend Adolf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akQEuWNF7cU

Man, that's one of the best Hilter reuses Ive ever seen and I've seen a ton of them. That Chewie point...... so perfect.  I also agree 100% with your assessment.


That was rather brilliant to be fair lol

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« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2017, 04:45:55 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOG3Rze8UVU

Another good explanation why there is so much unnecessary hate.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #66 on: December 29, 2017, 04:46:03 pm »
Oh man. Red letter media is always entertaining AND smart. PLUS, they gave us these gems: https://youtu.be/FxKtZmQgxrI

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« Reply #67 on: December 29, 2017, 04:59:42 pm »
Hitler needed to be wearing mouse ears and promoting the film.

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« Reply #69 on: December 30, 2017, 12:40:57 pm »
My kids wanted to have a Star Wars marathon yesterday.  We started with Phantom Menace at 8am and made it all the way through Empire by 11pm.  To finish they want to watch Jedi and Force Awakens and then go see The Last Jedi in the theater again.

That is a heck of a lot of Star Wars but I didn't get bored once--even with the prequels. 

Watching EP3, Rogue One and then EP4 back-to-back was particularly enjoyable.

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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2018, 06:27:54 pm »
So I finally saw it.  My take: It was fine for a popcorn and ju-ju bean movie.  But this is not supposed to be a run of the mill science fiction movie, its freakin Star Wars!  Sorry but I have high standards for the subject matter and have been repeatedly disappointed since the reboot with Episode 1.  As usual, the script was cringeworthy.  I had a particular hard time with Poe Dameron's plan to disable the tracking device.  This plan involved disobeying direct orders, then we are supposed to stomach Finn's mission across the freakin' galaxy to hire a code breaker and get back in like 8 hours real time.  Really?  The worst was that this plan was directly responsible for the failure of Leia's cloaked retreat - which resulted in the deaths of 3/4 of the remaining resistance.  But not to worry, after the dust settles Poe is in no particular trouble for almost killing everyone....WTF?   :-\

I could go on with many other examples of things that really made me feel betrayed as a fan, but frankly its been discussed enough and at this point I am tired of dwelling on it.  I have a ton of nostalgia for Star Wars - I remember standing in line for 8 hours to see Empire at the theaters.  I just can't believe that the most valuable franchise in the world cannot hire a screenwriter and director who understand the Star Wars universe and can produce a movie with a cohesive and believable plot that builds on the metric ton of past lore.  I guess they really just don't care.  Here's hoping Abrams does something great with the next one, but I am not holding my breath...


 
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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2018, 11:36:30 pm »
The worst was that this plan was directly responsible for the failure of Leia's cloaked retreat - which resulted in the deaths of 3/4 of the remaining resistance.  But not to worry, after the dust settles Poe is in no particular trouble for almost killing everyone....WTF?   :-\

I actually appreciated the fact the plan failed miserably. Great throwback to Return of the Jedi where the plan to send Han and Leia through to endor on a stolen ship while simultaneously throwing the entire rebel fleet at a shield that could potentially kill them all if not disabled timely was a farce of a plan. The movie aptly showed how Leia matured from haphazard plans that many lives are hinged upon. The movie made a point to show you why the plan was terrible.

And the fact that he is not in trouble...who really knew the plan is the reason the cloaked ship escape failed? Only Finn and Rose knew the reason everything fell to pieces (Benecio overheard the plot and sold the resistance out.) As far as Leia, the Jurassic Park lady and the other rebels knew, the empire just saw right through their plan, no reason to suspect anything else, and honestly not much time to even think about it.

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« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2018, 04:56:54 pm »
Finally watched this.  Sort of.  There's a decent telesync floating around with clear audio.  After I saw Rogue One in theaters, I decided 'never again' unless the feedback was amazing.  (I'm still at a loss why some think Rogue One was good.... I enjoyed Force Awakens)

It seemed like absolutely nothing happened.  I don't feel like anything new progressed with any of the main characters.  Did any of them actually croak?  Snoke seemed pointless.  Yoda looked terrible. 

I'll give it a rewatch... but...

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« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2018, 09:38:29 am »
Yoda was an actual puppet again I think.  I did see Frank Oz in the credits...

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« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2018, 09:50:32 am »
Yoda was an actual puppet again I think.  I did see Frank Oz in the credits...

Yeah, he was a puppet and not CGI this time.
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« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2018, 10:07:07 am »
Only Finn and Rose knew the reason everything fell to pieces (Benecio overheard the plot and sold the resistance out.) As far as Leia, the Jurassic Park lady and the other rebels knew, the empire just saw right through their plan, no reason to suspect anything else, and honestly not much time to even think about it.

I must have missed that.  At what point did Finn and Rose find out the real plan was to sneak away in transport ships for Benecio to overhear it?  As far as Finn and Rose where concerned the main ship was going to hyperjump once they turned off the tracker.  It seemed odd that Benecio knew that part of the plan somehow and was able to sell the information to the First Order.  Especially when Poe and others on the main ship were unaware of the plan.

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« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2018, 10:18:52 am »
Only Finn and Rose knew the reason everything fell to pieces (Benecio overheard the plot and sold the resistance out.) As far as Leia, the Jurassic Park lady and the other rebels knew, the empire just saw right through their plan, no reason to suspect anything else, and honestly not much time to even think about it.

I must have missed that.  At what point did Finn and Rose find out the real plan was to sneak away in transport ships for Benecio to overhear it?  As far as Finn and Rose where concerned the main ship was going to hyperjump once they turned off the tracker.  It seemed odd that Benecio knew that part of the plan somehow and was able to sell the information to the First Order.  Especially when Poe and others on the main ship were unaware of the plan.



The point I understand where Benecio picked up on the plan is when they got out of hyperspace and were on the radio with Poe. Poe quickly radios Finn and Rose and mentions they abandoned the main ship and are in in transports heading for the nearby planet.

Yeah, they skimmed right over at what point Benecio got caught, ended up making a deal with the empire. Could have been a victim of bad editing, but we as viewers saw very little time after hyperspace where he could have communicated with the empire first order.

I feel that the 2nd half of the movie was a bit jumpy, which makes me think this could have been a 2 and a half hour film but was edited for time. I'm curious if it would get LOTR treatment with an extended edition. 

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« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2018, 10:22:22 am »

The point I understand where Benecio picked up on the plan is when they got out of hyperspace and were on the radio with Poe. Poe quickly radios Finn and Rose and mentions they abandoned the main ship and are in in transports heading for the nearby planet.

I missed that exchange.  The kids want to see it again so I'll watch for it this time.

Why did the janitor twins stay on their mission then if they knew the plan had changed?  The only way that plan would have worked was if they quickly made a hyperjump in the main ship.

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« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2018, 11:12:33 am »

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« Reply #79 on: January 04, 2018, 11:38:04 am »
Yoda was an actual puppet again I think.  I did see Frank Oz in the credits...

Yeah, he was a puppet and not CGI this time.

He looked like ---smurfy--- CGI.


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« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2018, 11:50:57 am »

The point I understand where Benecio picked up on the plan is when they got out of hyperspace and were on the radio with Poe. Poe quickly radios Finn and Rose and mentions they abandoned the main ship and are in in transports heading for the nearby planet.

I missed that exchange.  The kids want to see it again so I'll watch for it this time.

Why did the janitor twins stay on their mission then if they knew the plan had changed?  The only way that plan would have worked was if they quickly made a hyperjump in the main ship.


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« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2018, 11:54:34 am »

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« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2018, 01:04:02 pm »
 :laugh2:  "... on the island full of PORGS, adorable animals that nest everywhere they can including under your tree this Christmas!"

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2018, 01:07:13 pm »
This is a good read: http://www.the-editing-room.com/star-wars-last-jedi.html



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Boy howdy.  Starts off epic.

Erm, seeing as how it's preparing to vaporize our fleet, mind if WE all ---fudgesicle--- off and you catch up later? We know X-Wings have hyperspace capability after all.

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That is epic and so right on about how ---smurfing--- stupid the whole plot is.... I'm laughing so hard to keep from crying...

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« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2018, 04:51:02 pm »
Took the wife the other night since she wanted to see it in the theater.
I did not hate it as much as I feared but I guess that isn't saying much.
The only thing I have to add to this thread is that Snoke's "Red Room" had a huge Flash Gordon vibe for me. Expected to hear Queen at any time:
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« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2018, 05:09:12 pm »
Took the wife the other night since she wanted to see it in the theater.
I did not hate it as much as I feared but I guess that isn't saying much.
The only thing I have to add to this thread is that Snoke's "Red Room" had a huge Flash Gordon vibe for me. Expected to hear Queen at any time:
Flash a-ah
Savior of the Universe
Flash a-ah
He'll save every one of us

Yeah, I plan to go see it again on Sunday.

Iím glad you brought that up, Snokeís throne room looks so foreign to me, it didnít look like anything that really fit in the Star Wars universe, if that makes sense.
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« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2018, 05:43:35 am »
Especially someone so young with magic wizard powers. I hate to think what I would have acted like if I had those powers at a young age. Or now for that matter.

We know how someone [could] act. And his name was Paul. I identify.

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« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2018, 01:24:55 pm »
This is a good read: http://www.the-editing-room.com/star-wars-last-jedi.html

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Meh, you can tear apart anything like that.  I spent a lot of time thinking, "I'm too old for Star Wars" both during the movie and reading that link.


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« Reply #89 on: January 05, 2018, 01:35:30 pm »
This is a good read: http://www.the-editing-room.com/star-wars-last-jedi.html

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Meh, you can tear apart anything like that.  I spent a lot of time thinking, "I'm too old for Star Wars" both during the movie and reading that link.

I agree you can tear anything apart like that. I did that with Empire strikes back a few pages ago. Still a hilarious link.  :dunno

And for the record I still really enjoyed The Last Jedi, flaws and all. Went to see it twice.

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« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2018, 01:03:18 am »
about he whole vacuum in space thing...
I think it should be obvious to anyone that knows Star Wars Lei is of the Skywalker bloodline.
They showed a lot of force powers we have never seen before in this movie. I think it should
be obvious she did not perish in the vacuum of space because she created a force shield around herself.
She has always had sort of denial thing going on there but in extreme cases she has used her powers. 
She could not stand to loose her brother in ESB so she gave in and used her powers to hone in on him.
In this movie she was put in a fight or flight situation so once again her inner force kicked in.
I really am ashamed they have not honed in more on Lei and her force powers and now they have waited to
long and its too late :-[

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« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2018, 04:20:02 am »
about he whole vacuum in space thing...
I think it should be obvious to anyone that knows Star Wars Lei is of the Skywalker bloodline.
They showed a lot of force powers we have never seen before in this movie. I think it should
be obvious she did not perish in the vacuum of space because she created a force shield around herself.
She has always had sort of denial thing going on there but in extreme cases she has used her powers. 
She could not stand to loose her brother in ESB so she gave in and used her powers to hone in on him.
In this movie she was put in a fight or flight situation so once again her inner force kicked in.
I really am ashamed they have not honed in more on Lei and her force powers and now they have waited to
long and its too late :-[

Actually, they did that in Guardians of the Galaxy, and I said, 'horseshit'. And then I went and looked it up, and found that it takes a while to freeze and decompress - several minutes before there's real damage. That's if you don't expunge your lungs before going out there. Otherwise you'll likely loose them.

The whole Force thing. It's totally imaginary. It's up to the bearer as to what they can manifest. None of the writers are smart enough for that. Though neither was Herbert.

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« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2018, 04:18:08 pm »
We finally finished our Star Wars marathon today with EP6, 7 at home & then 8 in the theater.  You are correct about the exchange between Poe and Finn/Rose.  That's where Benecio picks up on the plan.   :cheers:


The point I understand where Benecio picked up on the plan is when they got out of hyperspace and were on the radio with Poe. Poe quickly radios Finn and Rose and mentions they abandoned the main ship and are in in transports heading for the nearby planet.

I missed that exchange.  The kids want to see it again so I'll watch for it this time.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #93 on: February 05, 2018, 04:42:10 am »

I didn't mind it. Star Wars was never John Steinbeck.

Is it just me, or did I see an homage to Hardware Wars in there?


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2018, 03:52:16 pm »
Is it just me, or did I see an homage to Hardware Wars in there?

Whew, glad I wasn't the only person who thought that.  Was it the thing that looked like a clothes iron?  My daughter and I both stopped, looked at each other, and went "Hardware Wars!!!

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #95 on: February 15, 2018, 06:31:53 am »
Is it just me, or did I see an homage to Hardware Wars in there?

Whew, glad I wasn't the only person who thought that.  Was it the thing that looked like a clothes iron?  My daughter and I both stopped, looked at each other, and went "Hardware Wars!!!

That's the one!


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #96 on: February 15, 2018, 05:12:15 pm »
Just found an interview... and it's actually a Hardware Wars reference.  Confirmed!

http://uproxx.com/movies/star-wars-the-last-jedi-hardware-wars-rian-johnson/2/

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #97 on: February 15, 2018, 06:03:55 pm »
The new Star Wars was a Dumpster Fire.

 Only saw it because I was handed a free ticket.

 Boring. 
 Lame Acting  (except Mark Hammil)
 Clearly full of Propaganda,  from Male Hating Feminists Slants,  to the PORgK  Vegan Hammering.

 Physics Fails.  (Bombs fall in space?!)  Ugg.
 Mary-Sue  "Cardboard"   "lead" ?!
 Lame "Bad Guy"... from bad look,  to bad dialog / acting.
 Lame Bad-Guy Lair.   Had to be the most Boring and Basic looking set In all of StarWars... and possibly,  in any big budget film to date.
 Poor quality "Fighting" scenes.
 No Emotional Content.

 The worst, is of course the Lead woman.  Shes a worse actor than Pierce Brosnan as Bond.  Pierce is almost completely "Monotone" in range
and expression... but this girl, is almost No-Tone.   It actually seems like she is either a psychopath, or is not a real human being...  as in.. 
being completely AI generated.

 Which makes me wonder... if JJ's films are AI-Generated in some form,  from a supercomputers  "Formula".   As from what we see,
his films tend to use similar parts and pieces... with little more than re-arranging elements.  In star wars... it was pretty pathetic to make
a non-mobile planet killer / galaxy killer.   Its just too absurd.   Everything about the first film,  was Way over the top.  Especially Mary-Sue,
who could out-force everyone... without a single day of training or experience.  Lame.

 The film didnt do well here in the USA... and it completely Tanked in China. 
 Radical  SWJ  /  Feminazi  excuses were Boundless!

 The failure was more enjoyable than all of  prequels and sequels combined...  and then some!

  :lol

 Disney wont see another Dime from my pocket... and any SJW or Feminists directors / leadership... will also be Ignored.
Its time to stop paying and rewarding Demons, to Radicalize our Youth.   Let alone, have to suffer though their Talent-less Hackery + Quackery.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #98 on: February 15, 2018, 06:51:11 pm »
The movie had issues. Let's not politicize it.

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« Reply #99 on: February 15, 2018, 06:57:53 pm »
The movie had issues. Let's not politicize it.

So when did Steve turn into a 60 year old white guy?

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« Reply #100 on: February 15, 2018, 07:03:11 pm »
The movie had issues. Let's not politicize it.

So when did Steve turn into a 60 year old white guy?

Get off his lawn!!!

Is that who that is? Figures.

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« Reply #101 on: February 15, 2018, 10:49:20 pm »
Oof.  I do agree with him about Daisy Ridley, though.  She looks like she could be Natalie Portmanís grand daughter, which is appropriate, but seems unredeeming otherwise.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #102 on: February 18, 2018, 12:57:10 pm »
Only saw it because I was handed a free ticket.


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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« Reply #103 on: February 18, 2018, 09:25:14 pm »
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