Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help  (Read 2534 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« on: December 11, 2017, 02:47:24 pm »
I'm using an ipac ultimate and having an issue in NES at least. Playing a game like contra, I'm trying to hold down while pressing a button. (Shoot/Button B). it should keep me in a crouched down position and let me shoot, but the shoot button interrupts the down command so I end up standing and shooting. Basically I think it's not letting me use those two button presses at the same time. Any way to fix this?

Vigo

  • the Scourage of Carpathia
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6417
  • Last login:March 21, 2024, 08:20:28 am
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 05:07:01 pm »
Have you tried an alternative NES emulator? Same results?

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 06:51:38 pm »
Have you tried an alternative NES emulator? Same results?

I have not yet. using retroarch. Will try something different. any suggestions?

Vigo

  • the Scourage of Carpathia
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+24)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6417
  • Last login:March 21, 2024, 08:20:28 am
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 11:13:22 pm »
Assuming you are using windows, If you are looking for something quick and easy to test with, Jnes. Something a bit more robust would be fceux.

05SRT4

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1092
  • Last login:Yesterday at 06:41:33 pm
  • Check out my Pow Pow
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 02:59:51 am »
Not sure it has anything to do with it but make sure that "Down" isn't setup as a Shift function within the Ultimarc software.

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2017, 09:16:25 am »
Tried fceux, same problem. I notice I only have the issue with 1p down+shoot, 1p up+shoot works fine. 2p works perfectly. So maybe a hardware problem?? Not sure what. Down is not a shift button

Down

loupg

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 51
  • Last login:December 26, 2021, 06:20:34 pm
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 07:30:36 am »
Maybe try wiring either the down or shoot to a different input and reconfigure the emulator for that input, just to test.  If it were me, I’d test a few different configurations to track down the issue.

Also, check to make sure neither input is set as a shift.

JamesTKirk

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
  • Last login:September 29, 2018, 09:09:02 pm
  • Boldly go .....
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 12:16:19 am »
Is contra the only game that this is occuring in?

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 02:51:35 pm »
 I tried with regular keyboard and had no issues, so I’m guessing that tells me it’s a hardware issue???

 I checked and neither my down or the shoot button are shift keys. I remapped another button (my 2player switch to A the 1pl shoot key) and when I use that with the 1pl down + shoot, no issues).


Any thoughts on what could be causing it? Thinking maybe an issue with a shared ground wire ?
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 03:13:40 pm by thepro8 »

loupg

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 51
  • Last login:December 26, 2021, 06:20:34 pm
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 03:21:59 pm »
I tried with regular keyboard and had no issues, so I’m guessing that tells me it’s a hardware issue???

 I checked and neither my down or the shoot button are shift keys. I remapped another button (my 2player switch to A the 1pl shoot key) and when I use that with the 1pl down + shoot, no issues).


Any thoughts on what could be causing it? Thinking maybe an issue with a shared ground wire ?

I would try physically switching around the buttons at this point to see if the issue follows the button, or if it stays with the input on the ipac.

Also, like JamesTKirk asked, is this only happening in Contra, or can you replicate the issue in other games?

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2017, 03:52:11 pm »
It’s happening in other games/systems

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 09:20:00 am »
Swapped put microswitches to a known Good one and still have he same issue

thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 12:22:00 pm »
I figured out what caused the error. It was because 1 SW 1 had a macro assigned to the "Code with Shifts" for it. The macro was (z, down,enter). Now even though I wasn't using that shift function it still caused the error. When I cleared out that functionality in the board configurator so it just had a primary function of L CTRL it worked fine.

Mike A

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5884
  • Last login:Yesterday at 05:37:55 pm
  • This plan is foolproof
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 12:51:05 pm »
Sometimes you just have to bang your head against the wall until it comes down.

pbj

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10871
  • Last login:Yesterday at 03:47:56 pm
  • Obey.
    • The Chris Burke Band
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 12:55:37 pm »
Those shift functions SEEMED like an awesome idea....


thepro8

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 54
  • Last login:May 15, 2023, 07:30:25 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: issue with holding down while pushing a button, looking for help
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 01:00:06 pm »
First time I had an issue with them. Still like them