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Building A Goldfish Arcade
« on: October 27, 2017, 03:07:59 pm »
Hi,

I do not know where to start.  I have an idea to make an arcade out of an aquarium but using a cocktail cabinet as the container.  It is a strange concept but I have the wood, plans and the aquarium to make this all happen.

The question is heat.  What monitors are low heat emitting?  I think I will go for a floor plexi case filled with baby oil, and a future proof PC.  It is not going anywhere so the tank should be fine even for heavy use gaming.

Any ideas for the monitor?

I don't want to cook my fishies.  ;D

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 05:20:53 pm »
Did you mean non-conductive mineral oil for the PC?  Is that going to be in a separate enclosure next to the cocktail machine?

I'm not quite understanding the concept.  Drawings would help.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2017, 05:27:34 pm »
***Build what you dig, bro. Build what you dig.***

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2017, 05:29:23 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2017, 05:39:01 pm »
Draw me a picture...


I gotta see what's going on in your head... do I have to look through the fish to see the screen... or are the fish the bezel?



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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2017, 06:03:40 pm »
So something like this?

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2017, 06:05:26 pm »
Sounds like taking a tabletop cocktail build like Griffindodd/Maximus' Little Miss Pac-Man or mgb's Verti-GO and putting it on top of an aquarium.   :dizzy:

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I doubt the fishies will like the game sounds and button-mashing.  ::)


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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2017, 12:11:09 am »
Dude, why would you build you fish an arcade, they don't even have fingers :laugh2:
They treated me like an animal and that's what I became.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2017, 12:21:34 am »
Dude, why would you build you fish an arcade, they don't even have fingers :laugh2:
So you're suggesting a pincab, because . . . flippers?  :duckhunt


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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2017, 06:42:42 am »
I am grateful for the enthusiasm and the comedy but I am adding an aquarium into the centre of a cocktail cabinet.  I just need to know what my display options are?  I will be adding concrete blocks to help in the stability of the cabinet.  I know you think it is a ludicrous idea but now I am unsure about the wood strength.

Should I reinforce it with steel braces?  I'll get my sketches scanned and upload them if I am allowed.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2017, 07:46:51 am »
You should call the dudes on that tanked show. Might make for a good episode

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2017, 10:02:27 am »
Are you building a house or an aquarium stand? My 150 gallon tank sits on a wooden stand. This idea sounded bad to start with. Now it sounds comically bad.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2017, 11:51:18 am »
Concrete blocks? Steel bracings?  JET FUEL CANNOT MELT YOUR GAME

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2017, 11:59:30 am »
Build what your fishies dig, bro. Build what your fishies dig.
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2017, 01:18:55 pm »
So something like this?

I do apologise, I missed this example in my previous posts.  This is exactly what I have in mind.  My biggest problem is the monitor.  All the 24 inch monitors I have heat up quite a bit.  Does anyone know which monitor runs the coolest?

I'm sorry for sounding like a broken record but I am stuck.  Below the aquarium will be a sealed pc in baby oil.  I don't know if I post my images as there are security measures on this site stopping me.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2017, 01:47:37 pm »
You could post pictures elswhere and copy the url and tap the little mona lisa icon and paste between the image words in the brackeys. Have you considered reptiles instead since it will be hot? Like little turtles?

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2017, 03:39:35 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2017, 04:25:57 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2017, 05:27:15 pm »
Don't do this. Every part of this is bad. There are many issues involved just with the oil immersed PC. This will be a bad aquarium, paired with a bad arcade cab, powered by a problematic PC setup.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2017, 05:48:12 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.
what was the first?
Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.
No pics, but here's the last archive.org capture of the thread before LT wiped his posts.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141018203422/http://forum.arcadecontrols.com:80/index.php/topic,138220.0.html

I love your creativity in general, Louis, but I don't think anyone could make this work and not look like an afterthought bolted onto a file cabinet. Sorry.  :cheers:
The rest of the story is that the thread eventually morphed into his outstanding Mario pedestal build.


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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2017, 05:53:15 pm »
The sad thing is I think that pedestal build is ultimately what broke him.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2017, 06:38:06 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.

didn't see that.

Worst goldfish idea i ever saw:


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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2017, 06:39:38 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.

didn't see that.

Worst goldfish idea i ever saw:



I was thinking the same exact thing!
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2017, 06:58:57 pm »
One of the problems is that people stick goldfish in a tiny aquarium and then wonder why they die so quickly. I have 4 koi in a 150 gallon aquarium. My homemade filter is a 100 gallon plastic tank. I wouldn't want to put any more fish in that setup. They are 7 years old now. Koi and goldfish produce a lot more waste than most other fish.

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2017, 07:03:22 pm »
Don't let the haters get you down! :)

My suggestion is that you don't worry about the heat. Make the top of the arcade self contained, but also acts as the lid, like this:



or this:



And mount the whole self contained top onto your cabinet which contains your aquarium. You'll need access for cleanings, feedings, etc anyhow, so you'll want a quick and easy way to perform that on the fish tank and you'll want a way to remove the top so you can work on the cabinet when components fail.


Do I think this is a good concept? Who cares, it's yours. Have fun.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 07:05:09 pm by leapinlew »

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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2017, 07:13:13 pm »
I think Lew secretly hates us all.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2017, 07:33:39 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.

didn't see that.

Worst goldfish idea i ever saw:



I was thinking the same exact thing!

 :cheers:

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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2017, 07:52:44 pm »
I think Lew secretly hates us all.

No way mang! It's no secret.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2017, 08:20:17 pm by leapinlew »

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2017, 09:07:28 pm »
***Build what you dig, bro. Build what you dig.***

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2017, 11:12:35 pm »
I figured out the monitor problem and decided to mount the monitor underneath and use a mirror to display the game.  I also got inspiration from another person who converted an Atari Asteroids into a aquarium.  The problem will be the fish but I can buy one sided glass or use a bubbler to keep the tank busy.  My design will be similar as I can get an old asteroids cab off a friend and throw away the monitor and use the space for the monitor like in space invaders.  Then there will be no heat issues.  I hope you can view the images.  Please don't laugh as I think this will be really cool.


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Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2017, 11:18:23 pm »
Donít ever throw away a vector monitor. At least sell the damn thing.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2017, 11:25:59 pm by yotsuya »
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2017, 06:42:48 am »
I can think of several things I would rather do than laugh. Throwing away a vector monitor? You have got to be a troll.

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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2017, 07:56:20 am »
Mail it to me

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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2017, 08:35:35 am »
doing anything with an original Asteroids and Vector Monitor other than restoring it to full working condition should be illegal.

Those things need protecting, not converting into novelty hipster garbage.

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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2017, 01:19:28 pm »
This is getting better and better!

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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2017, 01:58:46 pm »
To be absolutely clear, I appreciate arcade games like you and would not bastardise a classic arcade machine.  I thought that the asteroids machine aquarium was a good idea and I will be able to add plenty of controls on the control panel.

I will change the artwork to shark attack or big bass to keep the theme going.  It is a heavy cabinet but adding weights and a shelf system for my consoles.  The fish will add to the game play by creating a custom tank.  It will go into projects so please move it into the correct forum.

A word on etiquette.  People on this board was rude to me and threatened me.  I think this is not warranted and I would ask for those viewing my project to show the proper respect.  If you cannot be positive please delete my account and I will go elsewhere.  You have helped others and I understand this is unusual to create.

Thank you.

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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2017, 02:03:50 pm »
This is definitely a troll.

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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2017, 04:45:38 pm »
This is definitely a troll.

I assumed that from the username. Shame tho...

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2017, 05:27:27 pm »
I gotta be honest with you. In 7 years, this has to be the second stupidest idea I have ever heard. Iím not saying that to be mean, but itís the truth.

what was the first?

Louis Tullyís File Cabinetcade, which he had the good sense to abandon when he saw it was the bad idea everyone else thought it was.

Go ahead, Scott, post the picture.


Im sorry but the dumbest cab I ever saw was the Ikeacade. Good grief.
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2017, 07:33:38 pm »
I decided on a slimmer variation of this style of aquarium for each side and a mirror for the back.  I can mask the sides to minimally the action on the mirror and not freak out the fish.



I'm not sure about weight of the two tanks but I need a water barrier between the monitor shelf and the monitor below.  I'm reading up on how to orient the monitor but I am sure there is an option in mame.

I'm getting the cab and the parts next.
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2017, 08:19:33 pm »
Yes!!!

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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2017, 10:30:37 pm »
Yep... keep this up. I want to see the final vision!
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2017, 04:07:12 am »
It's not real.

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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2017, 09:21:05 am »
It's not real.

Your face is not real!

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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 12:47:15 pm »
 I know the forum has been lackluster as of late, but this is getting to an all-time low. Gone are the days of innovative cool projects, now we get this...mockery. Ban plz.

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« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2017, 01:10:58 am »
I have a few questions.  Does anyone know how heavy a vector monitor is?  I told my girl friend about this project and she wants to use the original tank which would take up the entire monitor shelf.  So I thought of having a hidden monitor raise up from the bottom of the cabinet via a linear actuator.  This would hide the aquarium when gaming and then lower when finished.

Do you think that would be possible?  Also we talked about what games we would play and she wants to contain my consoles in this cabinet so I don't know how to connect everything up.  Any suggestions?  She wants the artwork to be Pokemon in nature so any suggestions where to find the artwork?

This was to be an easy build.... :lol

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« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2017, 07:42:42 am »
The sad thing is I think that pedestal build is ultimately what broke him.


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« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 10:08:45 am »
I have a few questions.  Does anyone know how heavy a vector monitor is?  I told my girl friend about this project and she wants to use the original tank which would take up the entire monitor shelf.  So I thought of having a hidden monitor raise up from the bottom of the cabinet via a linear actuator.  This would hide the aquarium when gaming and then lower when finished.

Do you think that would be possible?  Also we talked about what games we would play and she wants to contain my consoles in this cabinet so I don't know how to connect everything up.  Any suggestions?  She wants the artwork to be Pokemon in nature so any suggestions where to find the artwork?

This was to be an easy build.... :lol

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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2017, 10:19:18 am »
I have a few questions.  Does anyone know how heavy a vector monitor is?  I told my girl friend about this project and she wants to use the original tank which would take up the entire monitor shelf.  So I thought of having a hidden monitor raise up from the bottom of the cabinet via a linear actuator.  This would hide the aquarium when gaming and then lower when finished.

Do you think that would be possible?  Also we talked about what games we would play and she wants to contain my consoles in this cabinet so I don't know how to connect everything up.  Any suggestions?  She wants the artwork to be Pokemon in nature so any suggestions where to find the artwork?

This was to be an easy build.... :lol

Yes! Actuators, motors and a remote control. Do it!

Also, The coin door area could be a good place for one of those electric fireplaces.

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My advice - build a great arcade cabinet and set up a great aquarium next to it, but keep the two separate.
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2017, 11:14:08 am »
My advice - build a great arcade cabinet and set up a great aquarium next to it, but keep the two separate.

We'd never have Reeses peanut butter cups with this kind of thinking.

If you don't put a fish tank in your arcade game, you are single handedly breaking the home built arcade scene. This type of innovative design and flawless execution will inspire copycat designs for decades. Play your bitmap games on a vector monitor - don't let the naysayers halt progress. Put your water filled aquarium with your delicate electronics - hell yeah! Live on the edge.

Hell, automate it. "Google, show me fish" to move the monitor and lift the fish tank or "Google, vertical fish" This would put your fish tank in a vertical position for old school 4-way fish. Possibilities are endless bro!

 

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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2017, 11:28:03 am »
This will be remembered as the thread that broke Lew. RIP.
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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2017, 11:31:19 am »
Why not start with a simple prototype?


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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2017, 12:02:13 pm »
This will be remembered as the thread that broke Lew. RIP.

Hell, I'm kind of broken already. At least, when it comes to arcade games. I've been playing older consoles and plan on playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 this winter and hope it's as good as the first one. My arcade games were turned on for the first time in about a year this Halloween for the kids. I'm happy to report they all worked on bootup - no weird computer issues, or loose connections, but I was a little sad trying to recall what the last game I played was. What's worse, there isn't a game on an arcade game that I'm wanting to play.

I'd never sell them and the way I have things setup the arcade games add to the dťcor of the room and not the sole purpose of the room. I've sold a few dozen games in my time and I'm betting the games I have now didn't actually cost me anything. I'll wait, I'll probably want to play a game again soon - some of my favorites are worth going back to play. Rush'n'Attack and Willow are 2 that come to mind as games I try to beat on 1 quarter.

Anyhow - enough about me. Lets get back to this fishtank arcade.


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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2017, 12:32:32 pm »
This will be remembered as the thread that broke Lew. RIP.

Hell, I'm kind of broken already. At least, when it comes to arcade games. I've been playing older consoles and plan on playing Super Mario Galaxy 2 this winter and hope it's as good as the first one. My arcade games were turned on for the first time in about a year this Halloween for the kids. I'm happy to report they all worked on bootup - no weird computer issues, or loose connections, but I was a little sad trying to recall what the last game I played was. What's worse, there isn't a game on an arcade game that I'm wanting to play.

I'd never sell them and the way I have things setup the arcade games add to the dťcor of the room and not the sole purpose of the room. I've sold a few dozen games in my time and I'm betting the games I have now didn't actually cost me anything. I'll wait, I'll probably want to play a game again soon - some of my favorites are worth going back to play. Rush'n'Attack and Willow are 2 that come to mind as games I try to beat on 1 quarter.

Anyhow - enough about me. Lets get back to this fishtank arcade.

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« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2017, 12:51:17 pm »
I go months at a time without playing my stuff, and then I'll play like crazy for a few weeks.  It also instantly makes your home a party destination.  Just keep them around, ready to play.  You'll come back.


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« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2017, 10:55:11 pm »
Am I missing something.

How are the fish going to play the arcade if they dont even have fingers? :cry:

Are they just going to slap the buttons with their fins or something? :banghead:
 
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« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2017, 11:19:39 pm »
Mybee an underwater track ball would work :dunno
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« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2017, 11:21:11 pm »
Mybee an underwater track ball would work :dunno
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« Reply #58 on: November 10, 2017, 01:50:30 am »
     I am not so sure there is ever a bad idea, More of a learning experience and opportunity for creativity and innovation.... find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is. 

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« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2017, 04:03:16 am »
Over looking the humour here I have to ask.... Really!?

I can see a whole host of problems with this idea!

Firstly water and electric dont mix.
Secondly how are you going to safely maintain your fish tank?
Clean, move, refill etc etc.
Also sound creates waves/ripples in water.
Ime no fish expert but I dont think they will like the experience you will be enjoying!

This is a terrible idea borderline animal cruelty imo so nope...

Ime with Yots, build a killer cade and a killer fish tank and leave em separate.

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« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2017, 07:38:59 am »
find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

I find it odd that you can't see that I'm being supportive from your high horse.

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« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2017, 10:12:13 am »
find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

I find it odd that you can't see that I'm being supportive from your high horse.
Well NOT you then, What you want Jennifer to cook you some brownies too???..... RE: T/gamer, A digital fish tank would be the short answer, kinda like they do in the casinos, Or real fish and digital tech, reducing heat and EMI radiation (IMO) ;)

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« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2017, 11:36:04 am »
     I am not so sure there is ever a bad idea, More of a learning experience and opportunity for creativity and innovation.... find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Reichelt
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« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2017, 12:38:50 pm »
     I am not so sure there is ever a bad idea, More of a learning experience and opportunity for creativity and innovation.... find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Reichelt
OMG, That is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE story, he most obviously thought that would work....However it should be pointed out, That is a lesson learned for the ages and was a conceptual idea at the time, Today people jump out of airplanes with parachutes just for recreation and a cheap thrill.   

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« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2017, 01:04:37 pm »
     I am not so sure there is ever a bad idea, More of a learning experience and opportunity for creativity and innovation.... find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Reichelt
OMG, That is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE story, he most obviously thought that would work....However it should be pointed out, That is a lesson learned for the ages and was a conceptual idea at the time, Today people jump out of airplanes with parachutes just for recreation and a cheap thrill.

And their parachutes look NOTHING like his concept. Sometimes a bad idea is just a bad idea. Titch actually outlined all the reasons why.
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« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2017, 01:18:49 pm »
Thats evolution, making it better and more functional over time....Cars for example look and function nothing like they did back in the late 1800"s, Arcade machines too are platforms for new tech, modified and used in our everyday lives....Not to say I am going to go grab some live wires or jump off towers in pursuit of knowledge , but imagine someone took a few volts back in the day. :afro:<electrocuted emoji guy (Jenn laughs)

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« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2017, 01:20:26 pm »
Thats evolution, making it better and more functional over time....Cars for example look and function nothing like they did back in the late 1800"s, Arcade machines too are platforms for new tech, modified and used in our everyday lives....Not to say I am going to go grab some live wires or jump off towers in pursuit of knowledge , but imagine someone took a few volts back in the day. :afro:<electrocuted emoji guy (Jenn laughs)

If arcade games/cabinets are to evolve, it should be to improve game play, not because you want your fish closer to your face.
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« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2017, 01:21:45 pm »
find it odd you guys don't see this for what it is.

I find it odd that you can't see that I'm being supportive from your high horse.
Well NOT you then, What you want Jennifer to cook you some brownies too???..... RE: T/gamer, A digital fish tank would be the short answer, kinda like they do in the casinos, Or real fish and digital tech, reducing heat and EMI radiation (IMO) ;)

A digital fish tank!?

Jennifer dear you are talking nonsense lol

In my day we would call that a screen saver on Windows 98, or possibly a looped video or pretty animation.

But alas it would be on a monitor of some description not in a tank.

That being said if you could use a tank of water to display a image of some kind, Now that would be freaking cool!

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« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2017, 01:23:33 pm »
Thats evolution, making it better and more functional over time....Cars for example look and function nothing like they did back in the late 1800"s, Arcade machines too are platforms for new tech, modified and used in our everyday lives....Not to say I am going to go grab some live wires or jump off towers in pursuit of knowledge , but imagine someone took a few volts back in the day. :afro:<electrocuted emoji guy (Jenn laughs)

If arcade games/cabinets are to evolve, it should be to improve game play, not because you want your fish closer to your face.

This just made me laugh so hard I nearly spat coke over my work mate!

But I have no idea why! Lol

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« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2017, 01:58:19 pm »
Bros quit talking him out of this. I gotta see this get built. Not like we have a whole lot going on right now.

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« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2017, 02:18:46 pm »
Bros quit talking him out of this. I gotta see this get built. Not like we have a whole lot going on right now.

That in itself is the crux of the matter.
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« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2017, 02:52:33 pm »
Bros quit talking him out of this. I gotta see this get built. Not like we have a whole lot going on right now.

Fair point :p

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« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2017, 03:10:26 pm »
My shout's on this being that Nephasth fella. Call it a hunch.

Thus, being that he's such a lovely, cuddly fella I help out gladly:

It depends if you are aiming on petting tropical or cold water fish. For a tropical fish tank, maintaining a warm environmental temperature ranging between 75 and 80 įF (24 to 27 įC) enables the fish to thrive. For cold water fish, when kept in a household aquarium, they do not require a heater and are quite comfortable at around 60 įF (15 įC).

Thus, tropical fish may present less of a challenge to your design brief as opposed to cold water fish, given the reduced cooling requirements.

As for the baby oil, that is an area of your subconscious that only people on Death Row and Crack can aspire to understand.

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« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2017, 06:47:25 pm »
   Good grief, you guys amuse me, I am walking around the mall laughing at my phone like some kind of idiot :laugh2:.... (Giggle)..... However, The mineral oil thing, ya maybe not so much, Large liquid cooled transformers are built that way and when they let go its a firestorm, And oddy enough could imagine an amused Beta fish as spongebob swims by, (or the terrifying Jaws shark... snort. :laugh2:).

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« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2017, 06:55:15 pm »
My shout's on this being that Nephasth fella. Call it a hunch.

Neph donít have no time to troll.

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As for the baby oil, that is an area of your subconscious that only people on Death Row and Crack can aspire to understand.

Totally agree.
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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2017, 06:58:52 pm »
Bros quit talking him out of this. I gotta see this get built. Not like we have a whole lot going on right now.

We havn't had a lot this summer... or year. BUILD IT!

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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2017, 07:16:52 pm »
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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2017, 07:18:04 pm »
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2017, 08:22:51 pm »
   That desk is some high end delicious, Not very practical Though, just sit there and look cute I s"pose. ;D

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« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2017, 03:32:30 am »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I still haven't got the Asteroids cabinet.  I went over to my mates house last weekend and he showed me the asteroids cabinet which looked odd.  The coin door look very different.  My mate calls them owl eyes as they do look like Bubo from Clash of the Titans (sorry its from an old 1980 movie we like) but the monitor doesn't work.  We hear the sounds but no picture.  He took the monitor to a TV repair shop and the guy said it was dead.  Sorry Yotsuya but it is going in the special recycle bin.

So I get to have the cabinet without the monitor.  My mate says I can use a LCD screen.  I told him about my design and he laughed.  He thinks I am off my head but my mate needs it gone, so it will be lighter to move.  He lives on the other side of the country so it will take some time to shift it to my house.  I still need to figure out the support of the monitor shelf.  Does the TV in the asteroids weigh 90 kilos?  We are going to make a cupboard inside the cabinet to store our consoles.  My guess the electronics are dead too and my mate knows someone that wants the innards so the wires will be removed.

The baby oil is for the PC.  It is an AMD and it runs too hot.  So another mate showed me a youtube clip where they sunk the PC in baby oil and it cooled down the PC.  It will be sloshing in the bottom of the cabinet so the fish will not be baby oiled.  I will add more photos and drawing on the plans of the actuator.  I am using the plans from the internet to create mock ups and using cardboard.  I am really looking forward to this being a reality. 

Thanks for the input.

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« Reply #80 on: November 11, 2017, 07:49:04 am »
Troll

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« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2017, 11:15:41 am »
https://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

just put a robotic fish into the mineral oil and use the entire pc as the fishtank display.
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« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2017, 11:40:47 am »
What a shame, those owl eye coin doors are highly sought after by collectors. You probably have an early run Astroids cabinet there.

You can fix monitors. Either your friend doesnít want to spend the money, or TV guy doesnít want to be bothered with it. I myself have brought monitors back from the dead and I donít have any formal training. You just have to want to know how to do it.

I hope you and your fishies enjoy your little tribute to vanity there. And for the rest of you that encourage this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, well, you know...
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« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2017, 02:19:03 pm »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I still haven't got the Asteroids cabinet.  I went over to my mates house last weekend and he showed me the asteroids cabinet which looked odd.  The coin door look very different.  My mate calls them owl eyes as they do look like Bubo from Clash of the Titans (sorry its from an old 1980 movie we like) but the monitor doesn't work.  We hear the sounds but no picture.  He took the monitor to a TV repair shop and the guy said it was dead.  Sorry Yotsuya but it is going in the special recycle bin.

So I get to have the cabinet without the monitor.  My mate says I can use a LCD screen.  I told him about my design and he laughed.  He thinks I am off my head but my mate needs it gone, so it will be lighter to move.  He lives on the other side of the country so it will take some time to shift it to my house.  I still need to figure out the support of the monitor shelf.  Does the TV in the asteroids weigh 90 kilos?  We are going to make a cupboard inside the cabinet to store our consoles.  My guess the electronics are dead too and my mate knows someone that wants the innards so the wires will be removed.

The baby oil is for the PC.  It is an AMD and it runs too hot.  So another mate showed me a youtube clip where they sunk the PC in baby oil and it cooled down the PC.  It will be sloshing in the bottom of the cabinet so the fish will not be baby oiled.  I will add more photos and drawing on the plans of the actuator.  I am using the plans from the internet to create mock ups and using cardboard.  I am really looking forward to this being a reality. 

Thanks for the input.
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« Reply #84 on: November 11, 2017, 02:29:34 pm »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I still haven't got the Asteroids cabinet.  I went over to my mates house last weekend and he showed me the asteroids cabinet which looked odd.  The coin door look very different.  My mate calls them owl eyes as they do look like Bubo from Clash of the Titans (sorry its from an old 1980 movie we like) but the monitor doesn't work.  We hear the sounds but no picture.  He took the monitor to a TV repair shop and the guy said it was dead.  Sorry Yotsuya but it is going in the special recycle bin.

So I get to have the cabinet without the monitor.  My mate says I can use a LCD screen.  I told him about my design and he laughed.  He thinks I am off my head but my mate needs it gone, so it will be lighter to move.  He lives on the other side of the country so it will take some time to shift it to my house.  I still need to figure out the support of the monitor shelf.  Does the TV in the asteroids weigh 90 kilos?  We are going to make a cupboard inside the cabinet to store our consoles.  My guess the electronics are dead too and my mate knows someone that wants the innards so the wires will be removed.

The baby oil is for the PC.  It is an AMD and it runs too hot.  So another mate showed me a youtube clip where they sunk the PC in baby oil and it cooled down the PC.  It will be sloshing in the bottom of the cabinet so the fish will not be baby oiled.  I will add more photos and drawing on the plans of the actuator.  I am using the plans from the internet to create mock ups and using cardboard.  I am really looking forward to this being a reality. 

Thanks for the input.
  WHAT???, You NEED to come in off the ledge, ....If you desecrate , and chop an asteroids machine, without even a basic understanding of monitor theory Jennifer will personally Troll your miserable threads till they kick me off this site. :badmood: :badmood: :badmood:

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #85 on: November 11, 2017, 07:17:37 pm »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I still haven't got the Asteroids cabinet.  I went over to my mates house last weekend and he showed me the asteroids cabinet which looked odd.  The coin door look very different.  My mate calls them owl eyes as they do look like Bubo from Clash of the Titans (sorry its from an old 1980 movie we like) but the monitor doesn't work.  We hear the sounds but no picture.  He took the monitor to a TV repair shop and the guy said it was dead.  Sorry Yotsuya but it is going in the special recycle bin.

So I get to have the cabinet without the monitor.  My mate says I can use a LCD screen.  I told him about my design and he laughed.  He thinks I am off my head but my mate needs it gone, so it will be lighter to move.  He lives on the other side of the country so it will take some time to shift it to my house.  I still need to figure out the support of the monitor shelf.  Does the TV in the asteroids weigh 90 kilos?  We are going to make a cupboard inside the cabinet to store our consoles.  My guess the electronics are dead too and my mate knows someone that wants the innards so the wires will be removed.

The baby oil is for the PC.  It is an AMD and it runs too hot.  So another mate showed me a youtube clip where they sunk the PC in baby oil and it cooled down the PC.  It will be sloshing in the bottom of the cabinet so the fish will not be baby oiled.  I will add more photos and drawing on the plans of the actuator.  I am using the plans from the internet to create mock ups and using cardboard.  I am really looking forward to this being a reality. 

Thanks for the input.
  WHAT???, You NEED to come in off the ledge, ....If you desecrate , and chop an asteroids machine, without even a basic understanding of monitor theory Jennifer will personally Troll your miserable threads till they kick me off this site.

Whoa! Settle down!! I'm finding it really odd that you would take such a harsh stance. This isn't a bad idea really, but more of a learning opportunity for creativity and innovation.

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« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2017, 04:55:15 am »
Thanks for the encouragement.  I still haven't got the Asteroids cabinet.  I went over to my mates house last weekend and he showed me the asteroids cabinet which looked odd.  The coin door look very different.  My mate calls them owl eyes as they do look like Bubo from Clash of the Titans (sorry its from an old 1980 movie we like) but the monitor doesn't work.  We hear the sounds but no picture.  He took the monitor to a TV repair shop and the guy said it was dead.  Sorry Yotsuya but it is going in the special recycle bin.

So I get to have the cabinet without the monitor.  My mate says I can use a LCD screen.  I told him about my design and he laughed.  He thinks I am off my head but my mate needs it gone, so it will be lighter to move.  He lives on the other side of the country so it will take some time to shift it to my house.  I still need to figure out the support of the monitor shelf.  Does the TV in the asteroids weigh 90 kilos?  We are going to make a cupboard inside the cabinet to store our consoles.  My guess the electronics are dead too and my mate knows someone that wants the innards so the wires will be removed.

The baby oil is for the PC.  It is an AMD and it runs too hot.  So another mate showed me a youtube clip where they sunk the PC in baby oil and it cooled down the PC.  It will be sloshing in the bottom of the cabinet so the fish will not be baby oiled.  I will add more photos and drawing on the plans of the actuator.  I am using the plans from the internet to create mock ups and using cardboard.  I am really looking forward to this being a reality. 

Thanks for the input.
  WHAT???, You NEED to come in off the ledge, ....If you desecrate , and chop an asteroids machine, without even a basic understanding of monitor theory Jennifer will personally Troll your miserable threads till they kick me off this site.

Whoa! Settle down!! I'm finding it really odd that you would take such a harsh stance. This isn't a bad idea really, but more of a learning opportunity for creativity and innovation.

Learning opportunity yes.

Innovation? No....

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2017, 06:37:52 am »
If you are dead ass serious, this needs to be a scratch custom build.

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« Reply #88 on: November 12, 2017, 01:16:34 pm »
     OK.... I will reel it in a bit. Jennifer can not save them all alone, I have seen them pushed off roofs, smashed down for the dumpster, Burned,  Started by someone with Zero experience, and just left for dead on the street, And  chopped up and parted out for Mame,   Even I am guilty of making a bird cages out of a crane games. Its your machine, do with it what you will....Bad idea? perhaps not, That kind of thing was considered  art back in the day with television cabs but take notice of the fact they are not around anymore.... And finally re: Thomas_surles,  :cheers:

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« Reply #89 on: November 12, 2017, 03:41:25 pm »
https://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

just put a robotic fish into the mineral oil and use the entire pc as the fishtank display.

beat me to it!

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« Reply #90 on: November 22, 2017, 12:19:05 am »
I have been busy with work, so prototyping has been slow, but I have a good idea on how to bring the arcade monitor from the bottom of the cabinet (near the coin door) to the monitor shelf.  I will be using two linear actuators in parallel to raise the LED TV to completely mask the aquarium.  Two large PC fans on each side of the monitor shelf should keep the fishies and the back of the TV cool. I can cut out ventilation holes in the side of the cabinet for better air flow.  We can add cold cathode lighting to the inside of the cabinet and the fans have a nice neon blue light.

I have asked repeatedly for the weight that the monitor shelf can support.  Does anyone know?  I understand that the sides of the cabinet is plywood, so I am not sure if I need to reinforce the monitor shelf with MDF to support the tank.  I thought the control panel was all metal, but my mate says there is wood in there as well.  Should I remove it before adding more controls to it?  I am not sure what controls I need, but I want more players.  I would like to play gauntlet together so it would be great to have all four of us playing at the same time.  Is that possible?  I am not very experienced with arcade machines, so any help would be appreciated.  I will be posting some drawings for the linear actuator lifts.  I decided that rotating the screen would be hard so the LED will be fixed horizontally.

I like the idea with the robotic fish, but they sound expensive!  ;D

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« Reply #91 on: November 22, 2017, 04:47:57 am »
I am so looking forward to see how this turns out.  :applaud:

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #92 on: November 22, 2017, 06:54:57 am »
Despite all the jokes in this thread I can actually sorta imagine a cool arcade cabinet fish tank combo but, as with all other things, it will heavily depend on the final design and overall aesthetics of it all. If done correct in the sense of design the fish tank should be fluently integrated with the rest of the cabinet design (Somehow I imagine some kind of 60's curvey design inspired by James Bond/Austin Powers/Star Trek 60's design elements). If you'd walk in the room and be like 'hey that's an Asteroids cabinet with a fish tank added' it might not be that great in the end, but hey that's just my opinion. To be honest I think a scratch build would be better for design purposes and probably for constructional, fish tank maintenance and electrical planning as well. Still if you want to use the Asteroids cabinet and design something to your own satisfaction, let the sky be the limit and go for it.

Fun fact, this guy actually replaced the screen of an Asteroids cabinet for a fish tank: http://www.tomtilley.net/projects/fish-tank/ Never mind, I just noticed it being referenced before in this thread, but hey, here is a pinball fish tank:



Regarding your question about reinforcement, unless you find some way to make a precise calculation you could consider reinforcing it with some sturdy 4x4's (wood).

I sincerely wish you the best of luck and am curious to see the results!
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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2017, 07:06:32 am »
...I would like to play gauntlet together so it would be great to have all four of us playing at the same time.  Is that possible?

Sure, four player controls are technically possible to integrate, but the real question is if it's possible in a ergonomically sound way so you and your friends actually have enough space to stand around the cabinet and use the controls. Beside ergonomics the appearance of your cabinet is a factor to keep in mind as well. Within the current dimensions of the control panel I think there is definitely not enough room for four player controls. If you really want to have four player controls I'd advice you to design and build a new control panel which extrudes out of the cabinet's current boundaries as in the picture:

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2017, 07:43:43 am »
So......what kind of fish you puttin in there?

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Re: Building A Goldfish Arcade
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2017, 01:35:13 pm »
I wonder if, like dogs, aquarium arcade fish resemble their owners?


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« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2017, 02:27:03 pm »
...I would like to play gauntlet together so it would be great to have all four of us playing at the same time.  Is that possible?

Sure, four player controls are technically possible to integrate, but the real question is if it's possible in a ergonomically sound way so you and your friends actually have enough space to stand around the cabinet and use the controls. Beside ergonomics the appearance of your cabinet is a factor to keep in mind as well. Within the current dimensions of the control panel I think there is definitely not enough room for four player controls. If you really want to have four player controls I'd advice you to design and build a new control panel which extrudes out of the cabinet's current boundaries as in the picture:



And look at those straight mounted joysticks for P3/P4. Suck it joystick anglers.

  
 

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