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| Loafmeister:
I must say you both are talking out of your butts, or at the very least pretty close to it :). In the last year or so, there is an official "all-in-one" installation exe that you can download that GREATLY simplifies cab users. The all-in-one installs: VP8.1, VP994, VPphysmod5 (maybe 2) and VPX. Yes, new beta versions of VPX are regularly released and if they offer a new function not available previously, then any table built with that function will not work properly. This is pretty much par for the course for most indie development that provides regular updates. One huge improvement the past two years has been the abilty to easily switch from desktop to fullscreen (pincab) view. Before you needed to download a separate table or mess with the view settings, now they are both saved (well all 3 but.. that's for another day). Of course there is room for improvement, I'd love to see them implement a call where when the VP EXE runs a table that needs a newer version, it would call home, tell you it needs to update itself and boom the trick is done. Perhaps the lack of this feature is simply expertise required? I think the devs are all ears if you guys know how to do this :). Relevant VBS scripts (pretty sure these are up to date) DB2s backglass support: installation is all automatic. In the past 18 months or so, the devs have incorporated the calls to load a backglass within the VBS file VPinmame: all done automatically... well kind of. VPinmame is installed and works as advertised however if you want to play the SAM Stern games, then you need to install the updated vpinmame.dll and rerun the setup. This is a hassle but it's a grey area you guys I am sure have seen for yourselves via the legalities of our hobby and this industry So after the install, we still need to get the tables, so we unzip those in the tables folder and download the roms and place it in the rom folder and as far as running it through VPX, it works fine. VPX also has a different file extension from the rest so if you want to use Windows friggin explorer as your "front end" go right ahead, it will know to load the right EXE. For VP9 and physmod, yep they will get confused but installing a front end resolves this and does the work for you. Of course this is no different running then running multi emulators. So ie: consider VP9, VPPhysmod and VP10 as totally separate programs that just happen to share a bunch of files. All a matter of perspective It's not all sunshine and rainbows, I agree there's lots of room for improvement but man, it's better than it used to be, a LOT better. The nice thing is there's still regular updates and anyone who's tried the recent tables redone in VPX will attest to the leaps and bounds in the tech and performance. Tables you need to check out just released for VPX in the last couple of weeks: Jurassic Park, Fire!, Space invaders, Xenon, Cyclone and just today, The Getaway. This is just a small sample! Anyway, selling mode turned off. I get the frustration, I kind of left the hobbie for close to 3 years with a couple of short lived returned that didn't stick. But the physics are such improved that I feel it's worth the effort. One last recommendation: if you give it another try, limit your frustration: stay away from VP9 and even VPphysmod and just try VPX tables. This will do two things: 1) hopefully make you see the light and 2) if you enjoy it, probably kill off the desire to run 99% older tables, especially VP9. With few exceptions, I don't find those a lot of fun anymore. |
| pbj:
So, that's nice, how often does the ball go through the flippers? |
| Loafmeister:
That hasn't been a thing in years funny guy, I think since VP8.1 or VP9 came out. Take a look outside, it's 2017! :D Yeah that ball through flipper used to be real crap back in the day :( |
| Ian:
:laugh2: |
| Ian:
The guy sold the F-14, but I think I will just save up my cheddar and buy the real deal. It's really hard to know what to look for, and what games are fun and stay fun without getting boring. You know? The Visual Pinball stuff is fun, but I don't know if I would play it as much as I think I would. But a real one I feel would get a lot of play. |
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