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Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« on: October 14, 2017, 05:46:36 pm »
I am asking this question for a guy I am building a cab for:  How many people build sit down cabs compared to stand up cabs? :dunno

I have built 6 cabs and only the first was stand up size, the rest were about 20 inches lower so they could be played sitting. I took into consideration the height of the average chair, eye level, elbow tilt, and built all may cabs like that from then on. I always figured I could build a cool looking pedestal to raise it up later if needed.

For my first cab I bought some cool stools that ended up hurting my back with some serious time on them. Also, the sit down cab was driven by the need to use fold up chairs to keep down clutter when not in play. :applaud:

Am I the only one and I did not notice until my friend said this hurts my back as he slump over the half built cab we were working on. I replied with, "do you really want to stand and play, Do you stand when you play on your playstation?" :angry:
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 07:07:15 pm »
When I built my first cabinet, part of my reasoning was that it seemed odd to sit in my comfy chair playing arcade games.

I stand.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 07:28:41 pm »
If I wanted to sit and play games, Iíd hook up my xBox.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 07:33:15 pm »
4 uprights and 1 cocktail. I have a bad disc in my back so I can only stand at the machine for so long. I still prefer to stand. I even have bar stools but if I'm trying for high score I need to be standing. The older I get the more I'm leaning twoard cocktail cabs.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2017, 08:55:47 pm »
I don't think I ever seen a sit down cab in USA besides that jurrasic park shooter or Star Wars. Standing is fine. They are not meant to be played for long periods of time. It's what makes arcade more social.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 02:48:03 am »
Only ever stand up or cocktail for me.

Ive never owned or built a cabaret style.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 04:53:48 pm »
I would think logically it would make sense to build a standard size cabinet made for standing, and just get stools that feel comfortable. Otherwise you're forcing anyone to sit in a chair to play. I don't know many arcade games that I would want to play sitting in a lazy boy

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 05:00:26 pm »
Stand. Buy a stool just in case but don't forget to wipe the dust off before you actually end up using it.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 09:49:55 pm »
I think your sitting vs. standing preference has more to do with your personal experience playing games.  Those of us who grew up in the 80s and hung out at arcades are used to playing arcade-style games standing up.  Sure, we also played console games such as Atari and Nintendo, but arcade games were a different experience.  Many younger gamers never had the real arcade experience and their gaming was mostly on the couch, or beanbag, or just sitting on the family room floor and playing.  So preference sitting vs. standing probably has more to do with your personal experience.

As others have pointed out, arcade games, at least the classics, were generally shorter in length and more appropriate to stand and play.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2017, 11:40:17 am »
Only ever stand up or cocktail for me.

Ive never owned or built a cabaret style.

Cabaret does not mean what you think it means.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2017, 11:54:21 am »
Only ever stand up or cocktail for me.

Ive never owned or built a cabaret style.

Cabaret does not mean what you think it means.

Care to elaborate on that?

I think cabaret means small/mini upright??

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2017, 03:04:34 pm »
I used to like to stand, now I tend to pull up a stool or chair if I am playing anything that I can last more than a few minutes on.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 05:02:22 pm »
I tried the sitting cabinet and hated it.  I thought I would give the Japanese candy cab a try because they have beautiful 29" monitors that are easily setup in either vertical or horizontal position.  As much as I loved the notion, it just felt awkward.  I don't mind playing on a cocktail or an upright (cabaret or normal), but sitting on a small stool in front of a machine that looks like it should have a Kenmore badge on it, felt foreign to me (pun intended).  Being a product of the golden age of arcades, I have to much nostalgia and familiarity to change.  Even though the machines are "better" on paper, I couldn't get into them.  Long live the 80s'.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 10:48:06 pm »
Im 47 and grew up in arcades and spending time anywhere I could find an arcade game. Yes, I always stood, but I was a carpenter for 18 years before I became a teacher and man my knees hurt :angry:

I play fighting games at work with my coworkers for 2 hours at a time and I could'nt stand in one place that long :hissy:

I wont defend the fact that I prefer a sitting cab because once most of you tried it you would probably prefer it and have to lie to everyone to keep your purest persona :laugh2: just kidding kind of.

to be honest I thought more would be on my side.

I must say that cocktail hurt my neck after a long time playing :badmood:
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 11:19:25 pm »
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 05:06:58 am »
You play video games for two hours at a time at work? Where do I sign up for that?

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 06:13:17 am »
I was thinking maybe we can come up with a pulley system so we hang the arcade from the ceiling, then you can play while lying down.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2017, 12:59:21 pm »
I sit at a desk all day so I relish the opportunity to stand in front of a cabinet and play games.  I'll do it for hours at a time and love every minute of it.  For me it has nothing to do with being a "purist," it's just better.  And, by standing, I'm not turning myself into a hunchback. 






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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2017, 06:46:50 pm »
     It is hard to do a cute Pac man dance while sitting down....Gotta go with uprights please.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 11:09:25 pm »
W. Churchill said why stand when you can sit, why sit when you can lay down :notworthy:

I am a teacher so my students are done by 2:00 but they stay for an hour and play street fighter in my classroom. The  other teachers come and play too. I should be grading papers, so I end up doing it at home later. So its not like I am skipping work to just play vids. >:D I still have to grade the papers at some point :badmood:

But, on days right before a holiday break we have an all day video game competition.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 09:39:10 am »
Sit down for racing games and stand up for the rest. Your left leg gets tired if you are working the gas with the right.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2017, 06:51:59 pm »
Hmmmm, Well what yall don't realize is that standing is just a form of sitting on your feet :badmood: :badmood:
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2017, 07:15:58 pm »
So I guess the initial answer to your question is .... zero.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2017, 10:55:47 pm »
I feel a deep sadness in my heart for the relaxing comfort of the sit-down cab that you will never know :dizzy:

I am truly  sorry for your loss :dunno

This reminds me of a captain Kirk quote: In an insane world, the sane man appears insane :hissy:
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2017, 01:14:42 am »
I feel a deep sadness in my heart for the relaxing comfort of the sit-down cab that you will never know :dizzy:

I am truly  sorry for your loss :dunno

This reminds me of a captain Kirk quote: In an insane world, the sane man appears insane :hissy:

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2017, 05:07:48 pm »
I stand for 3 things... My Flag, Greeting a Women, and Arcade Games. Not in that order.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2017, 05:18:06 pm »
I was thinking maybe we can come up with a pulley system so we hang the arcade from the ceiling, then you can play while lying down.

This sounds like a set up for a nerd version of Catherine the Great....


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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2017, 07:16:13 pm »
I stand for 3 things... My Flag, Greeting a Women, and Arcade Games. Not in that order.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2017, 07:29:31 pm »
I stand for 3 things... My Flag, Greeting a Women, and Arcade Games. Not in that order.



 :cheers:

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2017, 11:05:04 pm »
rec room masters sells 2 super sexy sit-down cabs that I am sure are among their top sellers :angry:
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2017, 09:32:38 am »
rec room masters sells 2 super sexy sit-down cabs that I am sure are among their top sellers :angry:

Hey man it's all good. To each his own. I just don't remember sitting down in an arcade. Thus I prefer to stand and play these games. Neither way is wrong.
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 10:54:56 pm »
I had a local bowling alley that had about 20 games scattered around the place and people would drag a stool from the bar sometimes and leave it in front of a game, we would all fight over it.  :angry:

Kind of funny note, the two games near the bar were joust, jungle king, gauntlet and mappy and the games sandwiched a cigarette machine where minors could buy a pack. These four games all had buns all over them due to this.   Ahhhhh, the early 80's :hissy:

Man I thought those games were magic back then. I miss the smell of burning control panel stickers as a shrinking cigarette tetered on the edge of the game
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2017, 12:27:37 am »
I had a local bowling alley that had about 20 games scattered around the place and people would drag a stool from the bar sometimes and leave it in front of a game, we would all fight over it.  :angry:

Kind of funny note, the two games near the bar were joust, jungle king, gauntlet and mappy and the games sandwiched a cigarette machine where minors could buy a pack. These four games all had buns all over them due to this.   Ahhhhh, the early 80's :hissy:

Man I thought those games were magic back then. I miss the smell of burning control panel stickers as a shrinking cigarette tetered on the edge of the game

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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2017, 12:30:02 am »
rec room masters sells 2 super sexy sit-down cabs that I am sure are among their top sellers :angry:

Youíre not helping your cause any.

Hereís a seat for your sit down cabs...

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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2017, 10:48:18 pm »
Not bad, I think I could work with that :applaud:

Although, for two players, I don't think playing with my pants around my ankles during a competitive game of street fighter, would fly with some of the folks I hang out with :censored: :laugh2:
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« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2017, 11:23:14 pm »
Not bad, I think I could work with that :applaud:

Although, for two players, I don't think playing with my pants around my ankles during a competitive game of street fighter, would fly with some of the folks I hang out with :censored: :laugh2:

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2017, 01:30:01 pm »
I didn't read this thread.

Stand up cabinets for the win.

Sitdowns are the lame...except when they're cool, but they're mostly the lame. Very the lame. laaaaame. lame. 

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« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2017, 03:27:27 pm »
Sitdowns are the lame...except when they're cool.

Here's a cool one.


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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2017, 05:40:07 pm »
Stun runner was nice but man did it eat up the space

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2017, 07:20:44 pm »
Bar stools.

This doesn't seem too complicated.  :dunno

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« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2017, 08:50:03 pm »
Yo Vigo, the first cab I built was a stand up and I bought two real nice bar stools for it but they just got in the way. Now I build short cabs and have a couple of fold up chairs near by.

I want y'all to think about this, everyone sees a slim cab and say ohhhhh sweeet I could fit that in my house, maybe my wife would let it fly if I pitched that :angry:

Heck I have seen at least 10 different designs of slim cabs. No one says hey dude if it don't stick three feet from the wall you have defiled the sanctity of the arcade gods  :badmood:
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2017, 08:52:03 pm »
Yo Vigo, the first cab I built was a stand up and I bought two real nice bar stools for it but they just got in the way. Now I build short cabs and have a couple of fold up chairs near by.

I want y'all to think about this, everyone sees a slim cab and say ohhhhh sweeet I could fit that in my house, maybe my wife would let it fly if I pitched that :angry:

Heck I have seen at least 10 different designs of slim cabs. No one says hey dude if it don't stick three feet from the wall you have defiled the sanctity of the arcade gods  :badmood:

Sure we did. Then we realized we sounded like Arrogant Tallywackers doing it, so we stopped. See a pattern?
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« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2017, 09:05:53 pm »
Yo Vigo, the first cab I built was a stand up and I bought two real nice bar stools for it but they just got in the way. Now I build short cabs and have a couple of fold up chairs near by.

What is the significant space use improvement of a folding chair over a folding barstool?



And I am not trying to come off as an arrogant tallywacker, even though I know I am sounding like one. I just think barstools are an OK solution.
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« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2017, 09:12:01 pm »
Big rolling toolboxes work great in front of candy cabs.
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« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2017, 09:25:38 pm »
I don't get it Vigo, would'nt that thing get caught in the crack of your butt :dunno

That seems like it would be real uncomfortable for most people. I mean if it works for you go for it, but dang :cry:
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2017, 09:46:46 pm »
Yo Vigo, the first cab I built was a stand up and I bought two real nice bar stools for it but they just got in the way. Now I build short cabs and have a couple of fold up chairs near by.

What is the significant space use improvement of a folding chair over a folding barstool?



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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2017, 10:01:29 pm »
Not you, brosef. The persistent Raccoon.

Eh, I know. Just didn't want to add to the tallywhackery.

I don't get it Vigo, would'nt that thing get caught in the crack of your butt :dunno

That seems like it would be real uncomfortable for most people. I mean if it works for you go for it, but dang :cry:

How big is your butt that an entire barstool can caught in the crack? Nevermind. Some things are best left unsaid.



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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2017, 10:09:06 pm »
I stand for the national anthem and to play classic arcade games.

It's been fun watching this hobby and watching what things people want to stay authentic to their memories. Here are just some of the things I can think of from over the years:

  • MAME vs Original Hardware
  • Controls! Concave vs Convex, WICO vs Nintendo vs X-arcade, the list goes on and on
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I guess everyone is different. Some people play some crappy port on a JAKKS controller they picked up at Walmart for $10, or download an app and use virtual controls on their tablet, and they scratch their nostalgia itch. For me, I stand. I prefer WICO controls, MAME, non-frankenpanel control panels, that use credit buttons.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2017, 10:15:34 pm »
I stand for the national anthem and to play classic arcade games.

 :lol I so want that written on a t-shirt

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #49 on: November 18, 2017, 10:30:00 pm »
I stand for the national anthem and to play classic arcade games.

 :lol I so want that written on a t-shirt

 :cheers:

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2017, 10:43:10 pm »
I fought for your constitutional right to sit or stand while playing video games... though if you sit, yer a weenie
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2017, 02:08:35 pm »
How big is your butt that an entire barstool can caught in the crack? Nevermind. Some things are best left unsaid.

He doesn't know how to unfold them.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2017, 02:52:49 pm »
I stand for the national anthem and to play classic arcade games.

It's been fun watching this hobby and watching what things people want to stay authentic to their memories. Here are just some of the things I can think of from over the years:

  • MAME vs Original Hardware
  • Controls! Concave vs Convex, WICO vs Nintendo vs X-arcade, the list goes on and on
  • Frankenpanels
  • LCD vs CRT vs TV
  • Form Factors: Skinny cabs, Bartops, micro
  • Coins vs Credit buttons vs Freeplay

I guess everyone is different. Some people play some crappy port on a JAKKS controller they picked up at Walmart for $10, or download an app and use virtual controls on their tablet, and they scratch their nostalgia itch. For me, I stand. I prefer WICO controls, MAME, non-frankenpanel control panels, that use credit buttons.
But... do you have a LCD in your skinny cab?

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2017, 06:43:44 pm »
I have 3 full sized cabs. 1 uses a LCD, 1 uses a computer monitor and 1 uses an arcade monitor. I'm a ---stingray---.

:)


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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2017, 08:11:03 am »
I stand for 8 hours a day at work. ---my bottom--- is sitting down to relax.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2017, 10:41:26 am »
If CCabs are your thing, more power to ya. I prefer a little more diversity in my limited space of a game room.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2017, 12:57:02 pm »
If CCabs are your thing, more power to ya. I prefer a little more diversity in my limited space of a game room.
I have lots of stand ups as well. Also fair amount of diversity with gun games, pinballs, golf games, Neo Geo, Dynamos, etc. Sit down still gets the vote for any extended gaming.

Stand up depends on the cabinet as well though. Hs2/hs5s, most classics, Neo GEOS, etc are all terrible to stand at. I'm not incredibly tall or anything 5 11 but the marquees are right at your forehead the whole time. Something like a Midway fighting cab is a totally different and much more pleasing experience. You get the space between you and the top of the cab.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2017, 01:23:50 pm »
I figured you have much more.  :cheers: I personally have to be choosy with my limited space. (5-6 cabs)

 I hear ya, and those kind of Ccabs were designed to open the doors to extended play. Its cool to see how they are like slot machine in Asia where people will just sit at them for hours on end. The game styles prevalent on those machines work better for sitting as well.

I guess where I differ is I look at classic games, ergonomics never bothered me with a few exceptions such as parascope games. I wanted to be at the ready. I love the feeling of chucking in a quarter, squaring myself up to a cabinet, and frantically try to keep going as long as possible. I still get that vibe with a stool, but in a chair, my posture quickly slumps to couch gaming. It's just weird. Like, the reason for having a cabinet just disappears.


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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2017, 05:50:12 pm »
90% of that picture is carpet. 

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2017, 08:50:08 pm »
I prefer sitdown mirrored LCD fishtank cabs. Anyone know where I can buy a kit, preferably with a 60-in-1?

Hope y'all have a happy T-day.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2017, 09:36:13 pm »
I prefer sitdown mirrored LCD fishtank cabs. Anyone know where I can buy a kit, preferably with a 60-in-1?

Hope y'all have a happy T-day.

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2017, 01:17:51 pm »
yo, brad808, what kind of cabs are those ???

They look original, but I have never seen them before.
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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2017, 03:24:51 pm »
yo, brad808, what kind of cabs are those ???
Looks like a Blast City next to the Emergency Call Ambulance , a Viewlix to its right , and a VS City across from the Blast

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2017, 03:46:52 pm »
I feel a deep sadness in my heart for the relaxing comfort of the sit-down cab that you will never know :dizzy:

I am truly  sorry for your loss :dunno

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Re: Stand up vs. sit down cabinet
« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2017, 04:19:06 pm »


yo, brad808, what kind of cabs are those ???
Looks like a Blast City next to the Emergency Call Ambulance , a Viewlix to its right , and a VS City across from the Blast

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