So thus far Star Trek Discovery sucks.

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Howard_Casto:
It's supposed to take place in the prime Star Trek Universe.... which is why the cosmetic changes, particularly to the Klingons (which do NOT have ridges in this time period) make zero sense. It's set between Enterprise and TOS. The first officer is the main character of the series... it's been confirmed that they start on this ship... "something" happens and it gets destroyed, and then she helms the discovery. I shouldn't have called it "the discovery" before, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of the first ship.

Here's the thing. I know that when TNG came on the air they changed a lot of stuff, even the makeups, people got mad but eventually it worked itself out. The difference is it was done with care. Yes they added forehead ridges to the Klingons, but they wore the same uniforms, flew in the same ships and were still Klingons. These new guys almost seem like a cult and their ships look awful... just a mess of ornate garbage shapes. The federation ship kinda sorta looks like TOS movie ships, which is about right, but the hologram tech and stuff just doesn't fit.

They have full reign so if they wanted to do a more alien species why not make a new one instead of butchering the Klingons? If they wanted a new look and new tech why not set it after tng, so they don't have to worm around Trek lore to avoid conflicts and plot holes? It's lazy writing if you ask me.

Yes the beard has to grow in with any Trek series, but I can always see the potential. With this pilot they went in such a very odd direction that I don't know if it can be saved. maybe episode 2 will pick up... I'll watch it tomorrow.

All access will die a quick death. It might be they knew this series was bad, but after all the time and money they invested they were embarrassed, so they buried it on all access. It would be a good scapegoat when the show doesn't get the typical ratings of a Trek series.

nitrogen_widget:
Missed it last night but i'll watch it this week.
The only thing I can say is the audio trailer on the radio did sound kind of cringy when i assume the woman who was the captain was talking tough.
but I wasn't seeing it so it was out of context.

for klingons - doesn't completely matter what they look like to a point as long as the culture is the same, but they look reptilian and remind me of Louis Gossett Jr. from enemy mine.

All this trek talk makes me want to start watching DS9 or TNG again.
I think they are still on Netflix.

This CBS all access app any better than last yr?
I had tried it when some stuff was still free and it did not work well at all and even locked up my 2106 firestick.
when they turned subscription i deleted it.

pbj:
It was a tumultuous time for our nation. The clear beverage craze gave us all a reason to live.

The information superhighway showed the average person what some nerd thinks about Star Trek.

And the domestication of the dog continued unabated.

Howard_Casto:

--- Quote from: nitrogen_widget on September 25, 2017, 04:30:55 pm ---
for klingons - doesn't completely matter what they look like to a point as long as the culture is the same, but they look reptilian and remind me of Louis Gossett Jr. from enemy mine.

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Actually... if you know your Trek, it does. The reason that Klingons don't have forehead ridges in TOS is because on Enterprise we discover that the Klingons steal Kahn's DNA and try to weaponize it into a Klingon super-soldier serum. Something goes wrong and they actually create a mutagenic virus that, cosmetically at least, turns all Klingons human. It takes generations to breed out the genetic deformities, making them normal again. Since this show takes place after Enterprise, they should look human. Again, they could have easily avoided this by just setting the show in a different time period.

Regardless, they seem to have changed their culture as well, but it'd take more episodes to be sure.

shponglefan:

--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 24, 2017, 11:00:45 pm ---Oh and now everybody communicates via Star Wars holograms, even though this series takes place BEFORE Kirk and the gang.
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Considering how anachronistic the various ST series have been in the past, I'm perfectly fine with them updating the tech depicted. I'd rather have them shoot for something a little more modern, then trying to depict a pre-TOS level of technology.

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