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Arcade Legends 1 conversion questions
keilmillerjr:
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--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 03, 2017, 11:47:49 pm ---I would fix the computer. In no case should you replace it with a Pi, you will have gone from having a 100 percent legit multigame with real monetary value to a bootleg frameskipping turd. Probably just needs what most old computers need which is either a new power supply or a new CMOS battery.
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I agree in the fact that it is a spimple fix and I would go that route. But you need to stop downing the rpi every chance you get. It does some things well. It doesn't do everything well. I use it to emulate a single system that it does well. Can it play every n64 game? No. Can it switch resolutions on the fly? Yes, but not every district implemented it yet. It's a work in progress, but it does fit some people's needs.
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Nope, the pi is another example of the "much worse but easier" trend that has been ruining our hobby for years. People used to build the crap out of some amazing Mame cabinets. Then those 60 in 1 (or X in 1) boards came around and took over a huge portion of the build your own market even though they are just terrible. Bartops began to take off and, bam once again, the real hobby got smaller because it is easier to bash together a little kit then it is to actually use a saw for an hour or two. Now the pi comes along, and quickly takes over the majority of what is left of the community, despite the fact that it is aggressively worse than any PC. They have better software than the x in 1 boards, but the X in 1 boards are way more reliable so I would count them as equal to the pi.
Pi is great for consoles due to more optimized emulators for those consoles, and it runs some individual mame games perfectly, but it should never be the go-to or number one thing you recommend. What I particularly dislike is all the people selling these Pi based systems that are going to eventually corrupt their storage and when it happens they will have no idea how to fix it and the community will have moved onto something else that is probably even worse but easier.
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SD cards will not corrupt if your not writing to disk. This can be avoiding by read only or shutting down the pi properly. My pi is reliable. Your saying ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that benchmarks say isn't true, as well as general experience. I feel like I'm arguing with a 4 year old that insists a Toyota pickup was a diesel, when I know they don't even make diesel pickups for USA.
paigeoliver:
--- Quote from: keilmillerjr on September 04, 2017, 10:06:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 04, 2017, 02:08:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: keilmillerjr on September 04, 2017, 09:18:09 am ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 03, 2017, 11:47:49 pm ---I would fix the computer. In no case should you replace it with a Pi, you will have gone from having a 100 percent legit multigame with real monetary value to a bootleg frameskipping turd. Probably just needs what most old computers need which is either a new power supply or a new CMOS battery.
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I agree in the fact that it is a spimple fix and I would go that route. But you need to stop downing the rpi every chance you get. It does some things well. It doesn't do everything well. I use it to emulate a single system that it does well. Can it play every n64 game? No. Can it switch resolutions on the fly? Yes, but not every district implemented it yet. It's a work in progress, but it does fit some people's needs.
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Nope, the pi is another example of the "much worse but easier" trend that has been ruining our hobby for years. People used to build the crap out of some amazing Mame cabinets. Then those 60 in 1 (or X in 1) boards came around and took over a huge portion of the build your own market even though they are just terrible. Bartops began to take off and, bam once again, the real hobby got smaller because it is easier to bash together a little kit then it is to actually use a saw for an hour or two. Now the pi comes along, and quickly takes over the majority of what is left of the community, despite the fact that it is aggressively worse than any PC. They have better software than the x in 1 boards, but the X in 1 boards are way more reliable so I would count them as equal to the pi.
Pi is great for consoles due to more optimized emulators for those consoles, and it runs some individual mame games perfectly, but it should never be the go-to or number one thing you recommend. What I particularly dislike is all the people selling these Pi based systems that are going to eventually corrupt their storage and when it happens they will have no idea how to fix it and the community will have moved onto something else that is probably even worse but easier.
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SD cards will not corrupt if your not writing to disk. This can be avoiding by read only or shutting down the pi properly. My pi is reliable. Your saying ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that benchmarks say isn't true, as well as general experience. I feel like I'm arguing with a 4 year old that insists a Toyota pickup was a diesel, when I know they don't even make diesel pickups for USA.
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Last I checked the guys working on pi mame had "accidentally" broken the feature that lets you see the framerate and if it is skipping or not. Is that working now?
paigeoliver:
Saw your benchmarks Keith, I have to say the 3 is much improved. The B and 2 are a joke though. This will slightly alter my position going forward.
ark_ader:
--- Quote from: keilmillerjr on September 04, 2017, 10:06:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 04, 2017, 02:08:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: keilmillerjr on September 04, 2017, 09:18:09 am ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 03, 2017, 11:47:49 pm ---I would fix the computer. In no case should you replace it with a Pi, you will have gone from having a 100 percent legit multigame with real monetary value to a bootleg frameskipping turd. Probably just needs what most old computers need which is either a new power supply or a new CMOS battery.
--- End quote ---
I agree in the fact that it is a spimple fix and I would go that route. But you need to stop downing the rpi every chance you get. It does some things well. It doesn't do everything well. I use it to emulate a single system that it does well. Can it play every n64 game? No. Can it switch resolutions on the fly? Yes, but not every district implemented it yet. It's a work in progress, but it does fit some people's needs.
--- End quote ---
Nope, the pi is another example of the "much worse but easier" trend that has been ruining our hobby for years. People used to build the crap out of some amazing Mame cabinets. Then those 60 in 1 (or X in 1) boards came around and took over a huge portion of the build your own market even though they are just terrible. Bartops began to take off and, bam once again, the real hobby got smaller because it is easier to bash together a little kit then it is to actually use a saw for an hour or two. Now the pi comes along, and quickly takes over the majority of what is left of the community, despite the fact that it is aggressively worse than any PC. They have better software than the x in 1 boards, but the X in 1 boards are way more reliable so I would count them as equal to the pi.
Pi is great for consoles due to more optimized emulators for those consoles, and it runs some individual mame games perfectly, but it should never be the go-to or number one thing you recommend. What I particularly dislike is all the people selling these Pi based systems that are going to eventually corrupt their storage and when it happens they will have no idea how to fix it and the community will have moved onto something else that is probably even worse but easier.
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SD cards will not corrupt if your not writing to disk. This can be avoiding by read only or shutting down the pi properly. My pi is reliable. Your saying ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that benchmarks say isn't true, as well as general experience. I feel like I'm arguing with a 4 year old that insists a Toyota pickup was a diesel, when I know they don't even make diesel pickups for USA.
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You can buy a diesel engine and put it in a Toyota, but something tells me would would argue some other topic with a 4 year old.
The pi is unreliable and can have a FS error on boot if you even look at it funny. That is why I BACKUP! BACKUP! BACKUP! place all your valuable ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on a USB drive (or just have it on a SMB server on your network) and leave the sdcard to start up and enable USB booting. That way you can go through your crap 2gb sdcards without the headache of transferring everything like you would do with a 64gb card. /rant
elvis:
--- Quote from: ark_ader on September 05, 2017, 04:52:04 am ---The pi is unreliable and can have a FS error on boot if you even look at it funny.
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Speaking as someone who uses RPis for real work (not just hobbies or toys), I have no idea what you're talking about.
If you're getting file system errors all the time, you're doing it wrong. The Pi isn't the problem here.