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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2017, 09:57:39 pm »
I love your projects.  :applaud:

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2017, 01:53:53 pm »
I stopped at microcenter today to pick up some microSD cards and wandered off to the always trashed and sad project/component area. Stumbled upon 4 yellow "mini arcade buttons", no other colors, couldn't find anymore stock, there was just 4 of these. Brain instantly went into overload and I raced over to Fry's to obtain a robotics joystick and a slanted project box.




Was able to whip up this nifty little thing. The joystick is sooo nice and the buttons are pretty damn good as well. Perfect controller to have out when I have friends over, won't have to hover making sure they're not abusing my sh!t.




After some trial and error I came up with the absolute perfect combo of resistors to compensate for the 5k pots in the robotics joy, an original stick has 10k. Using the test rom I was able to have the original and mine side by side and get the sweep matched up on the new one. Played 2 minutes of hyperchase, yup feels the same....  :cheers:






Thing came out great. I had to go with the strain relief on the side because of the way the back of the box is molded, the bottom ridge is too tick to slot and work with the relief.




And a pic for size comparison to original. After about 20 minutes of play after building it, I'm pretty impressed. Will report back after some more gaming sessions.



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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2017, 06:49:02 pm »
Now open a store on ebay selling custom vertex controllers. Get a bunch of knockoff genesis controllers to work with.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2017, 09:32:41 pm »
Thanks Guys! :applaud:

It be rainin' Vectrex goodness up in here!

Quote from: Richard H.
I make the VecMulti.

If you want one, I'm selling the last 10 units at half price ($45 USD shipped)

So, last Tuesday I happen to see the post above by Richard Hutchinson in some noob vectrex help thread on atari age 20min after he made it. Had the man paid about 15min later, I'm no idiot, Helluva deal. Package arrived from the UK today. Fabulous product.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2017, 01:55:13 pm »
Did he happen to sell all of them? (I don't have an Atari age account)

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2017, 08:41:45 pm »
Did he happen to sell all of them? (I don't have an Atari age account)
Same, I've read a ton on AA, just never felt the need to create an account and post there. I sent you a pm.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2017, 08:47:28 am »
Really like the joystick, I'd be interested in building one!

Do you have a part no. for the joystick? From what I understand vectrex joystick wiring is pin to pin, no encoder is needed, correct?

I have some old analog tandy/ch mini computer analog sticks in the parts bins, I wonder if they could be suitable...would probably have to dial in different resistors too.

Well done!


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2017, 03:26:38 pm »


The VecMulti from Richard H. is a neat piece of hardware. I just didn't like how it was packaged in the 3d printed case and how it just kind hung there in the cart slot with the edge connector being the only support.




The SDcard reader was soldered to the underside of the main pcb with a straight header. After some thinking and planning I came up with a way to mount the SD reader to the top of the main pcb and offset the SD placement so that I could use a stanrdard cartridge shell.




No modifications were needed to the scramble cartridge shell, I'll find a repro shell to use in the future. The 2 plastic posts in the bottom shell are narrower than the width of the SD reader pcb, so it made sense to figure out a way to top mount it. The SDcard has been set up and sorted the way I want and I haven't had the need to pull it for a couple weeks. It's only 1 screw to get access anyway.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2017, 09:36:21 am »


mmmmmmmm, Nothing like the smell of fresh Sanwa 24mm buttons in the morning.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2017, 02:08:33 pm »
when you scroll down the page your pic of the buttons in the box creates an optical delusion of it getting bigger.
totally made my eyes go  :dizzy: LOL!

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2017, 02:46:21 pm »
If you can read this, it means Photobucket's money grab ruined my signature photos.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2017, 06:05:04 pm »
I'll have what you 2 are smokin'.....





chopperthedog engineering has been established.   :cheers:


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2017, 06:44:25 am »
Oh good. Its not just me.

Good luck with the venture, Chopper!
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2017, 06:45:11 am »
Well said Chopper. So what are you up to?
This thread makes me wish I never sold my Vectrex.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2017, 05:04:45 pm »
I agree with ark.  (Falls over from shock)

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2017, 08:09:21 pm »
I agree with ark.  (Falls over from shock)
If you look at the original GCE logo, and if one were to create an "O" you would just close off the opening in the "G". For the "D" it was based off the "E" with the wider left side of the letter and offset opening. I tried the opening on both sides, and it looked better right heavy.



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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2017, 09:24:05 pm »
With respect... no it looks better the other way.  I know you are going for a specific graphical style, but a "D" needs the curvy bits on the right so people know it's a "D" and not an "O".

Everyone check out this revised version.  You could still argue that it kinda still looks like CTOE, but with the curvy bits on the proper side most people will know what you are getting at.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2017, 01:57:24 am »
With respect... no it looks better the other way.  I know you are going for a specific graphical style, but a "D" needs the curvy bits on the right so people know it's a "D" and not an "O".

Everyone check out this revised version.  You could still argue that it kinda still looks like CTOE, but with the curvy bits on the proper side most people will know what you are getting at.
That was a variation I tried, it looked ok to me, but got away from sticking to the original format of the logo with only having the rounded corners on the left side of each letter. I tried about 3 other ways and I went with what I went with because I liked it the best. :burgerking:


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2017, 11:38:46 am »
Cleanup on aisle 3!

Carry on.   :cheers:

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2017, 12:48:10 pm »
I get what Chopper is trying to do with the visual consistency, and I'm all for it. I wouldn't overthink it - if the product works, no one cares what the logo looks like.
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2017, 03:40:23 pm »
Holy crap.... what is with printers in this hobby??? I've pretty much exhausted all the major folks that print between klov and here. Some would start with good correspondence and then never provide a price, others would give me the common excuses off the dart board and some just would ignore me. I just wanted 18 copies of my image laminated and cut like an arcade cpo. After losing a couple weeks being jacked off by others I contacted Brad (who has a thread here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0.html) and he actually followed through and felt like making a couple bucks to do something simple.




 :applaud: Received the cpo's from Brad and applied one to a box, came out great. Nice textured material. Too bad I slacked off during the great printer hunt and I forgot to order the needed metric step drill bit set. :(




Analog joystick circuit pcb's put together.




Joystick harness made up, keeping the same wire color scheme as the original controller.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2017, 09:26:53 pm »
Awesome stuff! You going to make these available for sale?

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2017, 09:51:08 pm »
Looks badass, Chopper. Canít wait to see the final version.
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2017, 07:07:32 pm »


First one assembled, very happy with the results. Tooling for cutting circles in the overlay around joystick screws has been perfected and will look better moving forward.




Found some nice rubber strain reliefs that look much better than trying to use those plastic crimp grommets stuffed in the hole. I have done extensive testing of various methods of achieving a coiled cable. While playing the prototype controller I didn't like having to find a place to put 6ft of cable when I only play it from a foot away. I thought it would be cool if it had a coiled cable like the originals do. No ordering options for such a thing, so I just kinda figured it out.  Not a perfect tight consistent coil, but I think it's cool and is a nice touch. I'll probably just offer the ones for sale an option of straight or coiled cable.




The Sanwa 24mm buttons are sweet, very light action compared to the yellow ones from the proto. I also tried ordering a couple of the "replaces sanwa" 99 cent ones from ebay and they were awful, had to pay up and get the real deal.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2017, 07:31:32 pm »
Wow this looks really good chopper!

It's gotta be a hellava lot better to  use than the stock controller. I have a hard time with the buttons, but having more arcade grade pushbuttons would make this console play a lot better.

Too bad you couldn't get a small balltop on top of that joystick ;)

Can't wait till you put these up for sale, consider me in for one!

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« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2017, 07:52:19 pm »
Bad ass, dude!
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2017, 09:34:10 pm »
I want one for sure.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2017, 10:45:14 pm »
Looks great, watching thread :)

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2017, 03:09:41 am »
I'm certainly interested! Nice details.

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« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2017, 03:32:41 am »
I you intend to sell one of these beatifull things - I'd be surely interested too.

Great work!

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« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2017, 05:05:37 am »
That looks amazing!
Where did you get the analog joystick circuit pcb's from and which stick did you use?

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #71 on: September 27, 2017, 08:39:28 am »
This thread just keeps producing gold.

Godamstraight! I think I wanna buy a CTDE controller, even tough I don't have a Vectrex! That can come later :D

PS: For inexpensive DB9 cables for controllers, I usually get sega megadrive extension cables from ebay (",)  Love the curly bit!
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2017, 10:34:55 am »
Holy crap.... what is with printers in this hobby??? I've pretty much exhausted all the major folks that print between klov and here. Some would start with good correspondence and then never provide a price, others would give me the common excuses off the dart board and some just would ignore me. I just wanted 18 copies of my image laminated and cut like an arcade cpo. After losing a couple weeks being jacked off by others I contacted Brad (who has a thread here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0.html) and he actually followed through and felt like making a couple bucks to do something simple.




 :applaud: Received the cpo's from Brad and applied one to a box, came out great. Nice textured material. Too bad I slacked off during the great printer hunt and I forgot to order the needed metric step drill bit set. :(



A better link to Brad's (Lucian045) thread
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0

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« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2017, 10:50:18 am »
I know almost nothing about the Vectrex but this thread makes me want one.  :applaud:

And yes, if you had not already found Brad for your artwork, I was going to suggest him.

Love chopper's threads.
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« Reply #74 on: September 27, 2017, 11:55:49 am »
For your controller kit project is it possible to list the materials and sources?
Serpac 07S for the case I believe.
Sanwa 24mm buttons
Robot Zone (ServoCity) R-200 joystick.
Brad's (Lucian045) Sticker Overlay


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« Reply #75 on: September 27, 2017, 03:14:41 pm »
Very interested...

Just met me know when you plan to produce a few ones and I ll take one !

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« Reply #76 on: September 27, 2017, 03:30:23 pm »
:lol  The body's still warm you leeches!

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« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2017, 12:21:41 am »
Guess I can avoid a for sale thread. I think someone posted it to facebook (which I'll gladly take $20k to sign up for) and I got numerous pm's and also sent pm's to interested parties in this thread and I'm all sold out now.

It's gotta be a hellava lot better to  use than the stock controller. I have a hard time with the buttons, but having more arcade grade pushbuttons would make this console play a lot better.

Too bad you couldn't get a small balltop on top of that joystick ;)
It's soooo much better than the stock and perfect for adult hands. The sanwa buttons don't need to be bottomed out to engage, so you can find that flutter point like a leaf switch. Having the buttons in a row is great for homebrews and others that use 1&2 for left and right. Another highlight is playing protector (defender clone), button one is a thumb twitch away for reverse, can't say that for the stock controller. Button 2 is also nicely within reach from the joystick. I also notice that while gaming that there is no wasted muscle strain with having to hold the controller in place in use on a flat surface like I do with the stock unit.

**EDIT** Another thing, even though I did a complete tear down of the pots in my stock unit, it was still jumpy and loose. It wasn't til I built the proto that I noticed that Pole Position has 3 steps of analog steering, I've always read that hyperchase and starhawk were the 2 games that had analog. The joystick I use in the controller is pretty nice. 

As for the ball top.... eeeww. Although, a week ago I did stumble upon an odd completed sale on ebay with a strange button layout and a joy with ball top.  :dizzy:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Vectrex-Blackout-Controller-/112497580180?hash=item1a3160d894%3Ag%3AmdwAAOSwYyVZeTvl&nma=true&si=kP0eQx1hQxa0YN95WW%252FV%252BmidXMk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'll also gather up some links to the things I ordered, busy finalizing these controllers to ship this week currently.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2017, 10:15:25 am »
Looks like some folks will be receiving their panels today. I wanted to have this done and printed before I shipped stuff out, but time got in the way. Here's a link to a pdf to help with any analog calibration that may be needed. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n0qzd411mgyfx2/CTDEPanelCalibration.pdf?dl=0


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2017, 10:48:36 pm »
Analog Joystick Vectrex Controller Panel by Chopper The Dog Engineering (CTDE)
More images here:
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