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Got me a Vectrex.
« on: June 04, 2017, 02:56:56 pm »
It wasn't until I picked up my Asteroids Deluxe 3 years ago that I actually even learned what a Vectrex was. It was during my searches and reading up on vector monitors that I saw the little thing in some image results. Skimmed a quick history, watched a couple videos and was amazed with it. Casually kept an eye out over the last 3 years for one that didn't break the bank and wasn't beat to crap complete with a roached out controller cable for $400+ and no games. There were a couple nice setups that came with 20+ games for 2k+ and FIRM!! WILL NOT SPLIT!!!, NO LOWBALLERS bla bla bla.




Picked up this great package off Craigslist last Thursday for a very fair price. The 3 games do have the overlays and manuals.




The buttons on the controller were not registering consistently, especially button 4 (which makes sense now cause it's "fire" in like every game :p ). I didn't even want to try my hand at heating up and trying to peel back the overlay, so I just cut circles over the screws. Got everything cleaned and lubed, controls are spot on now. I'm probably just gonna leave the overlay like that for future access and to avoid blowing 12 bucks on a new one only to have to ruin it at some point.




Of course since I'm addicted to Everdrives I did some searches and saw what the main options were and how awful the secondary market is on ebay. On Friday I was chatting with a local collector friend and he offered to loan me his "Sean Kelly multicart" to try and he said or you can see if he has any since he's local to you. He sent me the phone number and I called.

me: Hi, a friend gave me the number to your store and said you guys might have the Vectrex multcart.
him: (slight chuckle) Hi, I'm Sean the guy that builds them.
me: Oh sh!t, how cool. Do you happen to have one for sale?
him: Yeah, 50 bucks.
me: See you in 30min with cash.

Now that was pretty cool, didn't have to wait for something from the Ukraine, get on some waiting list or get hosed on the secondary market. Nope, I was able to snag the 2016 2.5 version right from the actual dude the next day after picking up the Vectrex. Even Colonel Smith couldn't have planned that any better.

I also have a cap kit on order, but the coolest thing on the multicart is the test rom. After reading the service manual I was able to get dac offest adjusted and image dialed in to spec. While playing Hyper Chase (fantastic game) I noticed the steering was locked a little left, the test cart also helped with getting the internal centering trim pots set on the analog joystick. Such a cool piece of hardware, some really really fun games as well, which is pretty much all the cool b&w vector games. Vector monitors are pure eye sex in any form, one great home brew is "Patriots" and that one is awesome for vector Z hotness.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2017, 03:08:16 pm »
Im jealous. I need one in my collection but can't fork out the 400 to get one online. Im a cheap Bayard with expensive hobbies.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2017, 05:40:57 pm »
Congrats on getting a working one!
I was able to pick one up about 5 years ago for $50, but it wasn't working. I put it in my storage for a future project, but now I'm thinking it's time to take a look at it. Thanks for the inspiration.

If you get a chance, check out Moon Lander, a homebrew consolized version of Lunar Lander. Plays great with the Vectrex's controller.

There are still active home brewers for the Vectrex and I'm sure you can find more gems out there.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 06:07:36 pm »
if u use facebook or dont mind facebook, i would recommend joining this group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/104852679725118/

you'll get all the latest on what's happening in the vectrex scene there

ps. there is a new flash cart coming out soon called the vecfever which is very highly recommended  :)

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 09:03:46 am »



I've been a Vectrex collector for many years.  Thank god I picked up the vast majority of my collection way back before retrogaming was anything other than people who collected junk Funcoland didn't buy.  Congrats, man, it's a great system.  Wait until you decide you absolutely must have the 3D goggles.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 08:23:25 pm »
oh and get yourself a psychedelic overlay  :)
you can just use it for all games, that's what i do
(the original vectrex overlays were not very ambitious or exciting)
a guy called Steven Kray on the facebook group sells them..  $13
https://www.facebook.com/notes/104852679725118/Overlays%20from%20Steven%20Kray/523467281196987/







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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2017, 09:17:56 am »
That's a cool overlay.

Nice pick up. The Vectrex is on my list of cool items that I'll probably never own do to the price point.

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2017, 09:32:36 am »



Wait on it.  Prices are absolutely insane right now.  They will go down.  They have to go down.  This stuff is NOT WORTH what idiots are paying for it right now.  I've been in this hobby for 20 years and it has never been anything like it is right now.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2017, 07:34:18 pm »
Caps came yesterday, got them all installed and very happy with results. It looked great before. but now it's much better. The details in little things such as the tiny ships in Solar Quest and Cosmic Chasm can be seen now. The programmed variance with the intensity of the Z axis is much more prominent, it was hard to tell which player had the ball in Blitz! and the difference in teams with Head On. Got this sucker dialed in now.

@opt2not. Moon Lander is included on the multicart, was pulling my hair out for a couple games with just the buttons til I realized the joystick does analog thrust. Fun stuff. After doing the cap job and learning more, these things are really just mini arcade units minus a coin mech. Check your voltages on +5 and -5 [emoji14] sounds cliche, but if you get nothing, replace the corresponding voltage regs or re-pin power connector to game baord.

@adder. Yeah, I'm not a FB type person at all, would take 5 figures tax free per year to get me on that cesspool. I saw the thread on atariage for the vecfever, looks like a nice product, we'll see if it pans out. I'll be quite fine with the sean kelly thingy for some time.
Pretty sure I placed an order on Sunday for 4 overlays through ebay from the same guy as the FB link. I ordered 4 kinda cool and unique ones, Armor Attack, Cosmic Chasm, Pole Position and Spin Ball. Seller sent me a pic of his modified Spin Ball that he came up with instead of the original and asked if I wanted to try it, I said sure.

@ChadTower haha, I don't want the original goggles, that's for sure, unless they're free. I did see the "homebrew" ones from a guy in Germany? though, those look kinda interesting. Yeah the prices are a little cray cray now, same could be said for a lot of various hobbies, even the arcade market. Persistence does pay off eventually, it was nice to run into a seller that wasn't wearing dollar sign sun glasses with crack stem burnt lips.


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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2017, 08:08:13 pm »
This is BYOAC, how hard would it be to make one?
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2017, 08:09:15 pm »
i've got one in my shed in the backyard.  i need to get it out.  i know that the cartridges stopped working.  i have a couple games around here somewhere.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2017, 08:48:36 pm »
This is BYOAC, how hard would it be to make one?
Anything is possible on this site with illeagal roms, LCD panels, Pi's and wine barrels, presented from the 3rd person aspect.

Make one? seriously bro? honky paaahleeze......


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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2017, 09:08:17 pm »
@opt2not. Moon Lander is included on the multicart, was pulling my hair out for a couple games with just the buttons til I realized the joystick does analog thrust. Fun stuff. After doing the cap job and learning more, these things are really just mini arcade units minus a coin mech. Check your voltages on +5 and -5 [emoji14] sounds cliche, but if you get nothing, replace the corresponding voltage regs or re-pin power connector to game baord.
Yeah Moon Lander is pretty great with the analog. My favourite out of the homebrew.

Good looking out for the vectrex fix. I should pull it out of storage and start poking around.  :cheers:

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2017, 09:33:19 pm »
This is BYOAC, how hard would it be to make one?
Anything is possible on this site with illeagal roms, LCD panels, Pi's and wine barrels, presented from the 3rd person aspect.

Make one? seriously bro? honky paaahleeze......


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2017, 09:31:36 am »
ooh another thing chopperdog if u havnt spotted these yet;
if u want to eliminate the vectrex buzzing noise:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152563460846

(or u can DIY to eliminate most of the buzz, here):
https://console5.com/wiki/Vectrex_Shielded_Wire_Buzz_Reduction
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2017, 09:46:06 am »
Ordered the debuzz kit at the same time as the caps from console5. I didn't install it though, the buzz really doesn't bother me. Just gonna leave that as a future option.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2017, 10:10:45 am »



People have made their own 3D goggles in the past.  Usually using a CD motor.

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2017, 11:39:36 am »
Ordered the debuzz kit at the same time as the caps from console5. I didn't install it though, the buzz really doesn't bother me. Just gonna leave that as a future option.
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some vectrex models buzz worse than others, perhaps you have one of the better ones
mine (hong kong model) was buzzing a bit too loud when i got it so i did the shielded audio cable mod and it really tamed the buzz. there's still a little buzz but it's so mild it's not a problem for me

ps. you can make you own light pen...   (or i think someone sells repro's on the facebook group)

http://www.playvectrex.com/vectech/mvlp/mvlp_f.htm

http://vectorgaming.proboards.com/thread/1420/lightpen-build-updated-components

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http://www.binarystarsoftware.com/?p=282

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2017, 02:17:21 pm »
Very cool, congrats on the pickup! I've had my eye out for one of these for years as well, they just never pop up at what a reasonable price.
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2017, 07:07:47 pm »
Received the ebay repro overlays. Ehhhh, meh, glad I only ordered 4. The transparency printing process isn't perfect and the detail in screen image degrades the further away it is from the overlay due to the convex nature of the tube, so you end up with fuzzy looking corners and score numbers. I'm sure most are fine with it, but these are not for me, I'd rather have nothing at all if the overlay is gonna degrade the awesome vector monitor details.


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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2017, 07:20:37 pm »
Just to chime in - great score!  :applaud:

My friend had one when I was a kid and I was hooked on Pole Position and Minestorm. The music at the start of each level of Minestorm still gives me goose bumps.

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2017, 07:54:35 pm »
Received the ebay repro overlays. Ehhhh, meh, glad I only ordered 4. The transparency printing process isn't perfect and the detail in screen image degrades the further away it is from the overlay due to the convex nature of the tube, so you end up with fuzzy looking corners and score numbers. I'm sure most are fine with it, but these are not for me, I'd rather have nothing at all if the overlay is gonna degrade the awesome vector monitor details.


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hey that's a shame it didn't turn out so good,   here in general i quite like using an overlay as they seem to tame the effect of flicker a little. i did notice they smooth (blur) the screen a bit but i don't mind that effect. i only like to use an overlay in a darkened room though as it seems like with too much light in the room, it makes it harder to see through or 'past' the overlay
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2017, 03:17:28 pm »
I'll get some pics for others to see. In the meantime if anyone is interested in 4 repro overlays (armor attack, cosmic chasm, pole position and custom spinball) for $40 shipped (no returns) in the 48 states, shoot me a pm.  :applaud: These have been sold.


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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2017, 12:30:06 pm »



You rarely need the overlay for anything other than art anyway.  I usually don't bother.

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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2017, 10:20:40 am »
You rarely need the overlay for anything other than art anyway.  I usually don't bother.
Yeah I know, it's part of the charm of the unit though. There are like 11 or so I would like. After drinking and ebay'ing over the weekend, I have 3 more to go.  :applaud:




Here you can see my complaint about the inkjet repros floating around. It's quite "clear" which is the original... Get it... wakka wakka. Both overlays are just under 3/8" away from the text, but actually the repro is probably closer because of how flimsy the material is. Hard to get a good photo of it.


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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2017, 09:54:50 am »
Received the 4 loose carts with overlays from eBay (cosmic chasm, solar quest, hyper chase and bedlam) armor attack arrived on Monday. I'm not afraid to buy scratched and trashed overlays now.



Seems the fronts of the overlays always took the most abuse and get scratched up bad. It's super easy to buff all that stuff out of the fronts. I have 2 separate wheels for my drill for each novus 2 & 3. The ink side on all the ones I've got are pretty good, there was a couple that needed a delicate touch of #2 with a cloth in small spots. Obviously don't use the drill on the ink side.




So glad the seller didn't clean it before packing it up.




With a drill, buffing pads and some nuvous, You Can Make Your Vectrex Overlays Great Again.




Current line up. Love em all. The hyper chase one looks great with patriots and some of the other homebrews. Still waiting on a couple others from the UK to come in. On the hunt for Star Hawk and Fortress of Narzod.


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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2017, 12:34:45 pm »
I love this thread.

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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2017, 12:37:27 pm »
I love that work space. I wish I had the discipline to be that clean and organized.

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2017, 12:47:56 pm »
wowsers, amazing clean up job on those overlays!   :applaud:
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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2017, 01:21:41 pm »



Nice work.  They look great.   :cheers:

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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2017, 06:57:36 pm »
Thanks guys, they really did polish up nicely, I was really worried about solar quest and cosmic chasm. Those 2 were pretty bad, it's a thick enough material and figured what the hell and busted out the drill. If you really zoom into the lights on the before of solar quest you can see how f'd up it was.






Having 3 overlays around was easy but 9 is a different story and needed a storage solution. Ran out to Staples today and found this sweet 13 pocket thingy for overlay storage. Front 2 pockets can hold couple carts and some manuals. Great solution for the guy that doesn't want to dick around with white envelopes.






Got home from Staples to find the package from the UK arrived.  :applaud:

It's from this fine gentleman and his fantastic product. http://www.vectrex.co.uk/shop4.htm I also ordered the generic green one as well. Both are top notch. Glad I ordered these.


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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2017, 08:28:14 pm »
I love that work space. I wish I had the discipline to be that clean and organized.
Some pics in this thread, was done out of necessity to get more games in the house >:D . Closets are pretty much worthless, but this one was given a purpose. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,152135.0.html

You just need to be willing to throw sh!t away that you haven't looked at or touched in 4+ years.


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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2017, 10:09:42 pm »
I stopped at microcenter today to pick up some microSD cards and wandered off to the always trashed and sad project/component area. Stumbled upon 4 yellow "mini arcade buttons", no other colors, couldn't find anymore stock, there was just 4 of these. Brain instantly went into overload and I raced over to Fry's to obtain a robotics joystick and a slanted project box.




Was able to whip up this nifty little thing. The joystick is sooo nice and the buttons are pretty damn good as well. Perfect controller to have out when I have friends over, won't have to hover making sure they're not abusing my sh!t.




After some trial and error I came up with the absolute perfect combo of resistors to compensate for the 5k pots in the robotics joy, an original stick has 10k. Using the test rom I was able to have the original and mine side by side and get the sweep matched up on the new one. Played 2 minutes of hyperchase, yup feels the same....  :cheers:






Thing came out great. I had to go with the strain relief on the side because of the way the back of the box is molded, the bottom ridge is too tick to slot and work with the relief.




And a pic for size comparison to original. After about 20 minutes of play after building it, I'm pretty impressed. Will report back after some more gaming sessions.



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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2017, 11:17:30 pm »
This thread just keeps producing gold.

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« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2017, 11:52:52 pm »
That's a sexy ass machine man.  Good find!  :D

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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2017, 12:04:35 am »
Is that really all there is to the controller?? Hmmm, a custom Moon Lander throttle isn't so far fetched after all!

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2017, 09:59:45 am »
Is that really all there is to the controller?? Hmmm, a custom Moon Lander throttle isn't so far fetched after all!


He sort of glossed over the fact that the robotics joystick has the pots built in for analog control and he had to do some real trial and error to match up proper resistors to match the new stick's range with the Vectrex stick's range.  It's some pretty nice work.


You could sell that controller on the Vectrex groups very easily.  People would buy it.


My favorite Vectrex controller is the Playstation to Vectrex adapter.  Fully analog Dual Shock control on the Vectrex with a PS1 controller.  Even when it was being made that thing was nearly unobtanium and I've never seen one in person other than the one I have.

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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2017, 10:59:12 am »
Well now you pretty much have to work up an overlay for that controller.



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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2017, 11:10:41 am »



Where did the molded 2600/serial style cable come from?

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2017, 08:31:10 pm »
Where did the molded 2600/serial style cable come from?
Harvested from a useless and beat to crap genesis controller. I might ponder looking into ordering materials to build some more and come up with a label.



Here's a video that shows the analog function against an original.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2017, 09:57:39 pm »
I love your projects.  :applaud:

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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2017, 01:53:53 pm »
I stopped at microcenter today to pick up some microSD cards and wandered off to the always trashed and sad project/component area. Stumbled upon 4 yellow "mini arcade buttons", no other colors, couldn't find anymore stock, there was just 4 of these. Brain instantly went into overload and I raced over to Fry's to obtain a robotics joystick and a slanted project box.




Was able to whip up this nifty little thing. The joystick is sooo nice and the buttons are pretty damn good as well. Perfect controller to have out when I have friends over, won't have to hover making sure they're not abusing my sh!t.




After some trial and error I came up with the absolute perfect combo of resistors to compensate for the 5k pots in the robotics joy, an original stick has 10k. Using the test rom I was able to have the original and mine side by side and get the sweep matched up on the new one. Played 2 minutes of hyperchase, yup feels the same....  :cheers:






Thing came out great. I had to go with the strain relief on the side because of the way the back of the box is molded, the bottom ridge is too tick to slot and work with the relief.




And a pic for size comparison to original. After about 20 minutes of play after building it, I'm pretty impressed. Will report back after some more gaming sessions.



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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2017, 06:49:02 pm »
Now open a store on ebay selling custom vertex controllers. Get a bunch of knockoff genesis controllers to work with.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2017, 09:32:41 pm »
Thanks Guys! :applaud:

It be rainin' Vectrex goodness up in here!

Quote from: Richard H.
I make the VecMulti.

If you want one, I'm selling the last 10 units at half price ($45 USD shipped)

So, last Tuesday I happen to see the post above by Richard Hutchinson in some noob vectrex help thread on atari age 20min after he made it. Had the man paid about 15min later, I'm no idiot, Helluva deal. Package arrived from the UK today. Fabulous product.


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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2017, 01:55:13 pm »
Did he happen to sell all of them? (I don't have an Atari age account)

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« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2017, 08:41:45 pm »
Did he happen to sell all of them? (I don't have an Atari age account)
Same, I've read a ton on AA, just never felt the need to create an account and post there. I sent you a pm.


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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2017, 08:47:28 am »
Really like the joystick, I'd be interested in building one!

Do you have a part no. for the joystick? From what I understand vectrex joystick wiring is pin to pin, no encoder is needed, correct?

I have some old analog tandy/ch mini computer analog sticks in the parts bins, I wonder if they could be suitable...would probably have to dial in different resistors too.

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« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2017, 03:26:38 pm »


The VecMulti from Richard H. is a neat piece of hardware. I just didn't like how it was packaged in the 3d printed case and how it just kind hung there in the cart slot with the edge connector being the only support.




The SDcard reader was soldered to the underside of the main pcb with a straight header. After some thinking and planning I came up with a way to mount the SD reader to the top of the main pcb and offset the SD placement so that I could use a stanrdard cartridge shell.




No modifications were needed to the scramble cartridge shell, I'll find a repro shell to use in the future. The 2 plastic posts in the bottom shell are narrower than the width of the SD reader pcb, so it made sense to figure out a way to top mount it. The SDcard has been set up and sorted the way I want and I haven't had the need to pull it for a couple weeks. It's only 1 screw to get access anyway.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2017, 09:36:21 am »


mmmmmmmm, Nothing like the smell of fresh Sanwa 24mm buttons in the morning.


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2017, 02:08:33 pm »
when you scroll down the page your pic of the buttons in the box creates an optical delusion of it getting bigger.
totally made my eyes go  :dizzy: LOL!

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2017, 02:46:21 pm »
If you can read this, it means Photobucket's money grab ruined my signature photos.

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« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2017, 06:05:04 pm »
I'll have what you 2 are smokin'.....





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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2017, 06:44:25 am »
Oh good. Its not just me.

Good luck with the venture, Chopper!
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2017, 06:45:11 am »
Well said Chopper. So what are you up to?
This thread makes me wish I never sold my Vectrex.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2017, 05:04:45 pm »
I agree with ark.  (Falls over from shock)

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« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2017, 08:09:21 pm »
I agree with ark.  (Falls over from shock)
If you look at the original GCE logo, and if one were to create an "O" you would just close off the opening in the "G". For the "D" it was based off the "E" with the wider left side of the letter and offset opening. I tried the opening on both sides, and it looked better right heavy.



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« Reply #56 on: September 16, 2017, 09:24:05 pm »
With respect... no it looks better the other way.  I know you are going for a specific graphical style, but a "D" needs the curvy bits on the right so people know it's a "D" and not an "O".

Everyone check out this revised version.  You could still argue that it kinda still looks like CTOE, but with the curvy bits on the proper side most people will know what you are getting at.


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« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2017, 01:57:24 am »
With respect... no it looks better the other way.  I know you are going for a specific graphical style, but a "D" needs the curvy bits on the right so people know it's a "D" and not an "O".

Everyone check out this revised version.  You could still argue that it kinda still looks like CTOE, but with the curvy bits on the proper side most people will know what you are getting at.
That was a variation I tried, it looked ok to me, but got away from sticking to the original format of the logo with only having the rounded corners on the left side of each letter. I tried about 3 other ways and I went with what I went with because I liked it the best. :burgerking:


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« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2017, 11:38:46 am »
Cleanup on aisle 3!

Carry on.   :cheers:

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2017, 12:48:10 pm »
I get what Chopper is trying to do with the visual consistency, and I'm all for it. I wouldn't overthink it - if the product works, no one cares what the logo looks like.
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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2017, 03:40:23 pm »
Holy crap.... what is with printers in this hobby??? I've pretty much exhausted all the major folks that print between klov and here. Some would start with good correspondence and then never provide a price, others would give me the common excuses off the dart board and some just would ignore me. I just wanted 18 copies of my image laminated and cut like an arcade cpo. After losing a couple weeks being jacked off by others I contacted Brad (who has a thread here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0.html) and he actually followed through and felt like making a couple bucks to do something simple.




 :applaud: Received the cpo's from Brad and applied one to a box, came out great. Nice textured material. Too bad I slacked off during the great printer hunt and I forgot to order the needed metric step drill bit set. :(




Analog joystick circuit pcb's put together.




Joystick harness made up, keeping the same wire color scheme as the original controller.


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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2017, 09:26:53 pm »
Awesome stuff! You going to make these available for sale?

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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2017, 09:51:08 pm »
Looks badass, Chopper. Can’t wait to see the final version.
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« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2017, 07:07:32 pm »


First one assembled, very happy with the results. Tooling for cutting circles in the overlay around joystick screws has been perfected and will look better moving forward.




Found some nice rubber strain reliefs that look much better than trying to use those plastic crimp grommets stuffed in the hole. I have done extensive testing of various methods of achieving a coiled cable. While playing the prototype controller I didn't like having to find a place to put 6ft of cable when I only play it from a foot away. I thought it would be cool if it had a coiled cable like the originals do. No ordering options for such a thing, so I just kinda figured it out.  Not a perfect tight consistent coil, but I think it's cool and is a nice touch. I'll probably just offer the ones for sale an option of straight or coiled cable.




The Sanwa 24mm buttons are sweet, very light action compared to the yellow ones from the proto. I also tried ordering a couple of the "replaces sanwa" 99 cent ones from ebay and they were awful, had to pay up and get the real deal.


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« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2017, 07:31:32 pm »
Wow this looks really good chopper!

It's gotta be a hellava lot better to  use than the stock controller. I have a hard time with the buttons, but having more arcade grade pushbuttons would make this console play a lot better.

Too bad you couldn't get a small balltop on top of that joystick ;)

Can't wait till you put these up for sale, consider me in for one!

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« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2017, 07:52:19 pm »
Bad ass, dude!
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« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2017, 09:34:10 pm »
I want one for sure.

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« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2017, 10:45:14 pm »
Looks great, watching thread :)

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« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2017, 03:09:41 am »
I'm certainly interested! Nice details.

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« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2017, 03:32:41 am »
I you intend to sell one of these beatifull things - I'd be surely interested too.

Great work!

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« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2017, 05:05:37 am »
That looks amazing!
Where did you get the analog joystick circuit pcb's from and which stick did you use?

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #71 on: September 27, 2017, 08:39:28 am »
This thread just keeps producing gold.

Godamstraight! I think I wanna buy a CTDE controller, even tough I don't have a Vectrex! That can come later :D

PS: For inexpensive DB9 cables for controllers, I usually get sega megadrive extension cables from ebay (",)  Love the curly bit!
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2017, 10:34:55 am »
Holy crap.... what is with printers in this hobby??? I've pretty much exhausted all the major folks that print between klov and here. Some would start with good correspondence and then never provide a price, others would give me the common excuses off the dart board and some just would ignore me. I just wanted 18 copies of my image laminated and cut like an arcade cpo. After losing a couple weeks being jacked off by others I contacted Brad (who has a thread here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0.html) and he actually followed through and felt like making a couple bucks to do something simple.




 :applaud: Received the cpo's from Brad and applied one to a box, came out great. Nice textured material. Too bad I slacked off during the great printer hunt and I forgot to order the needed metric step drill bit set. :(



A better link to Brad's (Lucian045) thread
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,134866.0

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2017, 10:50:18 am »
I know almost nothing about the Vectrex but this thread makes me want one.  :applaud:

And yes, if you had not already found Brad for your artwork, I was going to suggest him.

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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #74 on: September 27, 2017, 11:55:49 am »
For your controller kit project is it possible to list the materials and sources?
Serpac 07S for the case I believe.
Sanwa 24mm buttons
Robot Zone (ServoCity) R-200 joystick.
Brad's (Lucian045) Sticker Overlay


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« Reply #75 on: September 27, 2017, 03:14:41 pm »
Very interested...

Just met me know when you plan to produce a few ones and I ll take one !

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« Reply #76 on: September 27, 2017, 03:30:23 pm »
:lol  The body's still warm you leeches!

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« Reply #77 on: October 01, 2017, 12:21:41 am »
Guess I can avoid a for sale thread. I think someone posted it to facebook (which I'll gladly take $20k to sign up for) and I got numerous pm's and also sent pm's to interested parties in this thread and I'm all sold out now.

It's gotta be a hellava lot better to  use than the stock controller. I have a hard time with the buttons, but having more arcade grade pushbuttons would make this console play a lot better.

Too bad you couldn't get a small balltop on top of that joystick ;)
It's soooo much better than the stock and perfect for adult hands. The sanwa buttons don't need to be bottomed out to engage, so you can find that flutter point like a leaf switch. Having the buttons in a row is great for homebrews and others that use 1&2 for left and right. Another highlight is playing protector (defender clone), button one is a thumb twitch away for reverse, can't say that for the stock controller. Button 2 is also nicely within reach from the joystick. I also notice that while gaming that there is no wasted muscle strain with having to hold the controller in place in use on a flat surface like I do with the stock unit.

**EDIT** Another thing, even though I did a complete tear down of the pots in my stock unit, it was still jumpy and loose. It wasn't til I built the proto that I noticed that Pole Position has 3 steps of analog steering, I've always read that hyperchase and starhawk were the 2 games that had analog. The joystick I use in the controller is pretty nice. 

As for the ball top.... eeeww. Although, a week ago I did stumble upon an odd completed sale on ebay with a strange button layout and a joy with ball top.  :dizzy:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Vectrex-Blackout-Controller-/112497580180?hash=item1a3160d894%3Ag%3AmdwAAOSwYyVZeTvl&nma=true&si=kP0eQx1hQxa0YN95WW%252FV%252BmidXMk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'll also gather up some links to the things I ordered, busy finalizing these controllers to ship this week currently.


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« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2017, 10:15:25 am »
Looks like some folks will be receiving their panels today. I wanted to have this done and printed before I shipped stuff out, but time got in the way. Here's a link to a pdf to help with any analog calibration that may be needed. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n0qzd411mgyfx2/CTDEPanelCalibration.pdf?dl=0


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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2017, 10:48:36 pm »
Analog Joystick Vectrex Controller Panel by Chopper The Dog Engineering (CTDE)
More images here:
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Re: Got me a Vectrex.
« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2017, 04:14:57 am »
Hi, just signed up for this forum, is that controller still for sale?

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« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2017, 04:39:31 pm »
My controller arrived yesterday. Couldn't wait to try it. Worked great out of the box, so I haven't done the calibration or put the feet on yet. The stick is easy to handle and the buttons respond beautifully. Thanks for putting together a professional looking quality product!
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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2017, 07:57:25 pm »
I got all the vectrex cool kids coming out of the wood work to this thread....  :afro:

@nexusmtz awesome pic, may your scores be higher and the tendons in your hands thank you.

@Vectrexer, I wasn't expecting a full macro focus porn shoot of the CTDE panel. Great Shots! man....

Columbus Day is gonna add an extra 24hrs to the wait for some other folks.  :badmood:



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« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2017, 12:30:25 pm »
@chopperthedog

Sir it' s beautiful, how can i get one please?  :)

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« Reply #84 on: October 21, 2017, 07:41:52 pm »
Hello,

is it possible to order one, please?

Thank you in advance!

  
 

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