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Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« on: April 21, 2017, 08:08:43 am »
Having spent so much money on the xarcade stick and my dynamic marquee, I think the wife is getting a little upset about my MAME arcade.  However, I really want to be able to play some of my Atari 2600 games the right way (Warlords is my favorite 2600 game, 4 players!).    Do you know of any cheap spinners or external paddles out there?  My original paddles appear to be busted because my Atari flashback didn't work with them, so I would hate to get a Stella adapter and waste money.  I know many of you are purists, but I am ok with getting close enough.  It would be nice to control some arcade games and that would be a bonus, but I really want that 2600 experience again.

Thanks for your help and suggestions!

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2017, 08:12:47 am »
Depends what you call cheap really ;)

You could mod a mouse for a cheap method.
But I use and rather like ultimarcs spinner (spin trak)

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 08:18:43 am »

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2017, 08:32:40 am »
Sell your dynamic marquee and buy quality controls. Having a pretty marquee and crappy controls makes no sense.

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2017, 08:56:18 am »
Sell your dynamic marquee and buy quality controls. Having a pretty marquee and crappy controls makes no sense.
Oh my God, so much this....^^^
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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2017, 11:03:42 am »
Just buy this for $25 and be done with it:
http://www.2600-daptor.com

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2017, 12:32:33 pm »
I tried playing Atari 2600 via emulation with a Turbotwist spinner and it was terrible.  Maybe I could kinda sorta play a slower pong type game but Kaboom was unplayable.   Granted, I probably could have improved the experience by spending some time tweaking settings, etc. but some things just need to be done on real hardware, IMO. 

I am a huge advocate of emulation in general, and 95% of my gaming is done via emulation of some sort, but if you really want to play 2600 paddle games, your best bet is to just pick up the real thing.  I have to believe you could get a 2600 in perfect working order, a few paddle games, and some paddles for under $30.  Iíve got a 2600 with Harmony cartridge set up right next to my MAME cabinet, and itís great. 

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 01:15:19 pm »
I tried playing Atari 2600 via emulation with a Turbotwist spinner and it was terrible.  Maybe I could kinda sorta play a slower pong type game but Kaboom was unplayable.   Granted, I probably could have improved the experience by spending some time tweaking settings, etc. but some things just need to be done on real hardware, IMO.

Just out of curiosity, do you have the AccuTwist option on your spinner?  It can slow things down a bit for these kinds of games, and provide a more "potentiometer-like" feel.

FWIW, one of my favorite games with the TurboTwist2 is Avalanche, which is the game Kaboom was based upon.  I do well enough to get a "free play" just about every time I play it.  Just like any game, the sensitivity needs to be tweaked to suit the games original control resolution, knob size, etc...

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 05:06:22 pm »
Just out of curiosity, do you have the AccuTwist option on your spinner?  It can slow things down a bit for these kinds of games, and provide a more "potentiometer-like" feel.

No AccuTwist option. 

The problem wasn't so much the feel of the physical control--which is great, by the way--it was the translation of my movements into action on the screen that was wonky.  The emulation of the paddle handling, in other words. I probably could have tweaked settings to improve it, but it felt like my buckets were lagging behind where they would be on real hardware, and I couldn't get past the 4th or 5th screen. 


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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2017, 08:08:10 am »
I've had the same experience. I originally tried using a TurboTwist 2 for 2600 paddle games but it's just not worth it.  The responsiveness is fine. The issue comes in when you rotate past the edge of the screen.  When you change direction on the knob it doesn't immediately react that way on screen.  There is a bit of a dead zone when you over turn it.  Even if you don't hit the edges, as you constantly change direction, the center starts to shift slowly to one side.  The whole thing just feels off.

The solution, of course, was just to use my original paddles. I got the 2600-daptor and it works great.  I don't think it feels 100% the same as the original but it's close.  I was easily able to break 3000 in Kaboom which would have earned me an Activision patch back in the day.

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Re: Cheap USB Spinner or Paddles
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2017, 08:31:28 am »
I've had the same experience. I originally tried using a TurboTwist 2 for 2600 paddle games but it's just not worth it.  The responsiveness is fine. The issue comes in when you rotate past the edge of the screen.  When you change direction on the knob it doesn't immediately react that way on screen.  There is a bit of a dead zone when you over turn it.  Even if you don't hit the edges, as you constantly change direction, the center starts to shift slowly to one side.  The whole thing just feels off.

The solution, of course, was just to use my original paddles. I got the 2600-daptor and it works great.  I don't think it feels 100% the same as the original but it's close.  I was easily able to break 3000 in Kaboom which would have earned me an Activision patch back in the day.

Here is how I am solving the Kaboom equation. Waiting on graphics to be printed.

To the original poster, The potentiometers can be fully disassembled and cleaned rather easily.

Junk atari's with busted switched but working are rather cheap, too.




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