Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition

[thomas_surles]

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Thought y'all would like this one.

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Accurate.

Now can someone load doom on it and confirm other super fx games do work? Also curious about megaman x2 and x3

[knave]

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[Howard_Casto]

Thomas:  It looks like the snes classic is using the same emulator the VC does.  X2 and X3 are already confirmed to work and most likely everything else will work as well.  This is why I bought the thing.... as a supplement to my super everdrive.  Who the hell am I kidding though... this thing is waaay more convenient than using my snes and all the gear required to do rgb out. 

[thomas_surles]

Thomas:  It looks like the snes classic is using the same emulator the VC does.  X2 and X3 are already confirmed to work and most likely everything else will work as well.  This is why I bought the thing.... as a supplement to my super everdrive.  Who the hell am I kidding though... this thing is waaay more convenient than using my snes and all the gear required to do rgb out.

Right on.

[Osirus23]

Does this thing have stupidly short controller cords like the NES did?

[thomas_surles]

Its slightly longer

[Howard_Casto]

It's the difference between having to rest the console on your belly (NES) or having to put it in the floor so you have a little bit more slack(SNES).  Another two feet would have been great, but they are adequate this time. 

[thomas_surles]

It's the difference between having to rest the console on your belly (NES) or having to put it in the floor so you have a little bit more slack(SNES).  Another two feet would have been great, but they are adequate this time.

I believe this is why bean bag chairs and after market wireless controllers were invented.

[Howard_Casto]

So for those interested, the latest release of hakchi2 now supports the snes classic.  Only about 75% of the snes library works out of the box, but they think that has to do with the odd header/footer format of the canoe emulator used, which is based off the wii u Virtual Console.  I would help out (figured out a lot of the wii vc header/rom stuff back in the day) but eh, I have enough projects that I don't work on.

Everybody that has a snes classic should go ahead and install the mod if only for the mod to return to the home menu with a key combo instead of having to press reset.  For those that didn't get a NES classic and are new to the app, don't worry, it's pretty idiot proof. 

[Malenko]

So can I just snag the famicom version, hack it with this stuff , get an aftermarket SNES controller thingie (likely wireless) and be G2G?

[pbj]

I've read that the snes actually shipped with reset built in.  Abxylr start select at the same time....

I'm waiting for the ability to flash snes onto the Nes..... Soon I hope.

[JDFan]

I've read that the snes actually shipped with reset built in.  Abxylr start select at the same time....

I think that actually just resets the game you are in doesn't return to the menu system !

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah it just resets the game.  Besides, would you really want to press all of that mess just to make a save state?  Hakchi2 defaults to down+select, which works great as select is rarely used in a game. 

[Howard_Casto]

It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens. 

[Howard_Casto]

Hmm... interesting stuff.  Apparently there are screen magnification options, which would probably get rid of the borders I complained about.  I believe they added the borders to make the crt filter look better btw.  Also the bezels can be specified, so it should be pretty easy to add custom bezels.  And apparently the hue, saturation and luminosity of the frame can be controlled by the game... so it isn't special code for those few bezels that do it. 

[Grasshopper]

It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens.

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

Can we now say unequivocally that RPis are awesome? 

[Titchgamer]

It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens.

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

Can we now say unequivocally that RPis are awesome? 

Been over this already...

They are awesome! LOL

[jmike]

That's great news Howard. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
Still haven't opened my mini snes. 

 

[opt2not]

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

  Not exactly the same, but pretty close.

Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad. 

and 2, but unfortunately it messes up Yoshi's Island's audio. Same with Stunt Race FX's, along with menu text flickering. But I read if you overclock Stunt Race to 1.25 then it's a good balance to get the boost and stop the audio and menu issues.



I finally got my pre-ordered SNES classic this weekend. I wasn't fortunate to get the NES classic, so this was my first experience with it.  I love it.  First the controllers really surprised me. Controllers are the first thing I always look at with extreme prejudice with any system I get, and especially any re-manufactured clones of classic controllers. The SNES classic's controllers feel spot on! The only difference I could tell is with the actual physical texture of the plastic being a bit more rough, grippy, similar to the Xbone controllers but not so rubber feeling.  The buttons and d-pad feels good and quite honestly, I think I enjoy them more than my originals now.
Emulation on this is pretty good too. I was expecting Pi-like input lag (i know some people don't experience lag with their pi's but I'm hyper sensitive to it and I definitely feel it on my dust-collecting pi), but I was pleasantly surprised that the canoe emulator feels more responsive than I've experienced with emulation.
Love the menu, love the interface and demo mode when the system is idle. The save state and rewind feature is a nice bonus. 
Overall I'm really happy with this, and it's going to be my travel system when I visit family. I used to lug around an original system with an upscaler device for family holiday time, which was always a pain in the ass to pack because I'm freaked out about damaging my gear. But now I can just take this with me it takes up minimal packing space.

[pbj]

I've been kind of surprised how there's virtually nothing in the way of 3rd party accessories for the SNES Classic.  Figured I'd just get a wireless SNES controller for my modded Famicom and call it done...

[Howard_Casto]

Tell me about it.  I'd like to get a wireless gamepad and stuff the receiver inside the shell so that the ugly flap on the front of the system doesn't have to be down. 

Opt2Not:  We told you man... it's a step above what we are all used to in regards to emulation on a arm system. 

I'm wondering if they can throw canoe on the Nes Classic as an add-on module and vice-versa.  That way people that don't have both can experience the best emulation on one system. 

[Howard_Casto]

Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?

[Grasshopper]

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

  Not exactly the same, but pretty close.

Indeed. I'm already using Ruckage's NES Classic theme on my Pi, and his SNES Classic theme potentially looks even better. I'll definitely be trying it out once it's finished.

However, one small advantage the NES/SNES Classics have over Retropie is that the front ends and the emulators are tightly integrated. So, for example, the NES/SNS Classic front end given you a graphical representation of the save states, and the slots they're saved to.

The Retropie emulators also have save states (and rewind for that matter) but they're accessed by hot keys from within the emulator. You get used to it, but it's not quite as slick as the NES/SNES Classic approach.

[pbj]

Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?

Those were the first flat front CRTs I had ever seen.  Remembered thinking they looked cool at the time.  Now... eh....

[Titchgamer]

Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?

That is a freaking cool idea!

[pbj]

So these things are borderline worth it at $80 for the controllers.

The image borders are a nice touch.  The controller flap is stupid looking.

Otherwise the same user experience as the NES Classic.

 

[Howard_Casto]

You've got rewind, which I've got to admit I've been using more than I thought.  It's nice if you forgot to save and screw up.  There are also a few more graphical options for the emulator, but you've got to access them via hakchi and the command line options. 

[opt2not]

I also really like the Attract Mode feature when your system is idle, that randomly cycles through 30 secs of each of your save states.
Really cool feature.

[Howard_Casto]

Eh I dunno.  Even though it's more simple I kind of like the little Mario v Luigi fight on the NES Classic.  They dropped the ball on that and the online manuals, which were re-optimized for a web browser on the NESC. 

Speaking of which.... a cool mod would be to display a QR code linking to the selected game's manual when the load/save screen is opened.

[JDFan]

Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today. 

[gamepimp]

Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today. 

Wow! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has really gotten into these little guys. I picked up a Famicom Mini from Amazon last week. I found the US Super NES mini at Target on Saturday. And then the EU Super NES mini I ordered from Amazon Spain a few weeks ago arrived yesterday. Gonna have to wait until next year to get the original NES mini as I have no desire to pay > $200 for one now. Debating whether I should pick up the Super Famicom mini when they're plentiful in Japan and reasonable on Amazon. The EU SNES looks identical and I'm sure the wife would say buying the Super Fami is a bit excessive. Like buying the other 4 isn't. LOL! 

On the plus side, I've only overpaid for the Famicom so far. It was like $104 which isn't terrible. It would probably have been that much if I bought it from someone in Japan and had it shipped. Both Super NES units were actual price.

[JDFan]

Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today. 

Wow! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has really gotten into these little guys. I picked up a Famicom Mini from Amazon last week. I found the US Super NES mini at Target on Saturday. And then the EU Super NES mini I ordered from Amazon Spain a few weeks ago arrived yesterday. Gonna have to wait until next year to get the original NES mini as I have no desire to pay > $200 for one now. Debating whether I should pick up the Super Famicom mini when they're plentiful in Japan and reasonable on Amazon. The EU SNES looks identical and I'm sure the wife would say buying the Super Fami is a bit excessive. Like buying the other 4 isn't. LOL! 

On the plus side, I've only overpaid for the Famicom so far. It was like $104 which isn't terrible. It would probably have been that much if I bought it from someone in Japan and had it shipped. Both Super NES units were actual price.

Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail - then this year have picked up 2 of the SNES's also at retail -- then on reddit saw a listing wanting to trade a UK version for a NES so decided to trade the backup NES for it ( so it only cost the $10 shipping plus the $59 for the NES !) - thinking I might get the JP version ( put an order in on Amazon.jp but the listing is actually for those that pre-ordered and got cancelled on so not sure if it will survive or get cancelled until the 26th when it is supposed to ship so will see but at least the account is there if it does get cancelled for when they restock - the pre-order set it is for was only $97 shipped including the AC adapter and card set so figured it was worth a try ! )

[yotsuya]

Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail

[JDFan]

Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail

Only wanted a second controller but couldn't find one anywhere for less than $40 - $50 so when I saw the NES sitting in walmarts display case after they received the 1 unit restock - I just had to go ahead and buy it !!   

[gamepimp]

I forgot the NES minis only come with a single controller. The Famicom minis have two, but that’s because they squeeze into slots on the side of the main unit. Honestly they’re so small though that they probably equal one US controller if u combined them together. Lol! They are hardwired to the console so I am planning on modding it with controller extensions so I can use other controllers with it.

https://m.imgur.com/a/RhrRG

[Osirus23]

I forgot the NES minis only come with a single controller. The Famicom minis have two, but that’s because they squeeze into slots on the side of the main unit. Honestly they’re so small though that they probably equal one US controller if u combined them together. Lol! They are hardwired to the console so I am planning on modding it with controller extensions so I can use other controllers with it.

https://m.imgur.com/a/RhrRG

I didn't know Famicom controllers were that much smaller. I've never seen one in person.

[gamepimp]

I believe the original Famicom controllers were about the same size as the NES ones. However, to mimic the look of the original system (which allowed the controllers to be stored in pockets on the sides of the main unit), the mini had to have much smaller controllers. I almost feel like they should have put replica controllers on the sides of the console and then provided actual sized controllers to play with. Or at least make the controllers detachable from the main unit so that you can easily use other controllers. I suspect these shortcomings are why you can easily find Famicom minis for reasonable prices on places like Amazon and eBay.

[Howard_Casto]

That and the fact that the normal population doesn't know wtf the famicom looks like or possibly doesn't know about it's existence at all.  I know when talking to non-gamer people I realize how big the knowledge gap can be between nuts like us and everybody else. 

[gamepimp]

It’s true. I do feel like I know way more than I should about all things video game related. If only I could get paid for that knowledge. LOL!

I suppose we all have our areas of intense interest. I know some guys that can pull out majorly obscure sports facts at a moment’s notice. I’m not that big on sports and am always amazed by this. They’re like walking encyclopedias! Of course you tend to find way more people to discuss sports with than video games. That’s what keeps me coming back to this place. 

[pbj]

Sports are the secular glue that holds society together.