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Author Topic: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition  (Read 73653 times)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2017, 02:22:43 pm »
It's like this.  Nostalgia of course plays a huge role... people that grew up with the pal snes or sfc are going to prefer it ... but with that being said. 

The US SNES looks better imho because it has a very unique, timeless shape and it doesn't have the garish "skittles buttons" on the gamepad.  If you look at the sfc it's design is very much a product of it's time period... it screams 90's with those rounded corners and flush, "Star Trek TNG" buttons, which were all the rage on microwaves and car stereos at the time.  Sometimes being dated is what makes a console look cool, like the 2600, but for me at least, 90's styling is kind of hit and miss and for this particular item I think it's a miss. 

Back on topic though that flip down cover for the ports is janky as hell... as I feared.  It means that you'll have to constantly unplug the gamepads when you are done if you want it to display nice.  I'm a damn sucker though so I'll probably end up getting one anyway.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2017, 03:24:35 pm »
It definitely has games that i want that i cant play on my super everdrive. So i do want one, but getting one is going to be a hassle I fear. Now if we can mod it and get it to play the rest of the games I can't play like mega man x2 & x3, doom and whatever else, then we will really be talking.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2017, 03:52:28 pm »
Back on topic though that flip down cover for the ports is janky as hell... as I feared.  It means that you'll have to constantly unplug the gamepads when you are done if you want it to display nice.  I'm a damn sucker though so I'll probably end up getting one anyway.

OR mod it to add a wireless connection on the inside of the unit so you can leave the cover in place !

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2017, 04:12:10 pm »
That's probably possible yeah.  That wireless NES classic controller I ordered is still going strong.  I haven't had to charge it since I bought it either.... super long battery life.  I'm wondering if they sell snes pads. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2017, 04:20:45 pm »
That's probably possible yeah.  That wireless NES classic controller I ordered is still going strong.  I haven't had to charge it since I bought it either.... super long battery life.  I'm wondering if they sell snes pads.

Would think it's using the same connector cable so something like the Nincade should still work with it also - and since it is a pass through device you could still use the wired controls if you wanted to open the cover.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2017, 11:45:42 pm »
Preorders went live on Walmart's website. Let the feeding frenzy begin!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2017, 11:48:03 pm »
Preorders went live on Walmart's website. Let the feeding frenzy begin!

Just came here to tell everyopne and you beat me to it ! Got my order placed

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2017, 12:07:32 am »
They've still got plenty of preorders, which makes me think Nintendo might have actually delivered on the promise to make more this time.  I had 15 bucks in Walmart gift cards, so hell, I'm in for one. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2017, 12:23:47 am »
They've still got plenty of preorders, which makes me think Nintendo might have actually delivered on the promise to make more this time.  I had 15 bucks in Walmart gift cards, so hell, I'm in for one.

Looks like it is done ! - Not bad for the first live US presale it actually lasted a bit over 30 minutes - guess the Scalpers didn't have a chance to set up their Bots before the link was live.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2017, 12:28:27 am »
Walmart usually gets the most though, so it could be a bad sign.  Best Buy will get a smaller amount... Gamestop will probably get a lot but they'll sell it through some b.s. bundle that nobody wants.  Amazon seems to be a crap shot these days.... they get them in, but half the time it's for Prime members only and they sell out in 5 min. 

I also realized that this is the first preorder frenzy that I've gotten since this limited stock stuff started with the Wii.  I just happened to be online and got the notification.  Everything's coming up Millhouse!  :D

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2017, 11:14:12 am »
Walmart usually gets the most though, so it could be a bad sign.  Best Buy will get a smaller amount... Gamestop will probably get a lot but they'll sell it through some b.s. bundle that nobody wants.  Amazon seems to be a crap shot these days.... they get them in, but half the time it's for Prime members only and they sell out in 5 min. 

I also realized that this is the first preorder frenzy that I've gotten since this limited stock stuff started with the Wii.  I just happened to be online and got the notification.  Everything's coming up Millhouse!  :D

Depending on how large of a percentage they decided to put up for pre-orders and how many they want to keep for launch day to drive some traffic into the stores. It ssems to have sold out pretty quick but it might be they just put up a few to test how it would go and make sure their site was ready to handle it.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2017, 04:40:15 pm »
Got my pre-order cancellation notice today. Looks like Walmart is canceling all pre-orders across the board.  Several news sites have been posting articles on it.
I'm wondering if they got heavy pressure from Nintendo to pull these back. Wouldn't be surprised.

It's just weird that earlier they canceled only a portion of the preorders, I thought I was in the clear. But everyone's order are now cancelled.   :dunno

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2017, 04:43:22 pm »
That's discouraging.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2017, 05:12:19 pm »
Yeah, I figured it was too good to be true. ;)

If you guys haven't received your notice yet, make sure to check your Spam folder. A buddy of mine thought his was secured, but then found the notice in Spam.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2017, 05:34:22 pm »
Got my pre-order cancellation notice today. Looks like Walmart is canceling all pre-orders across the board.  Several news sites have been posting articles on it.
I'm wondering if they got heavy pressure from Nintendo to pull these back. Wouldn't be surprised.

It's just weird that earlier they canceled only a portion of the preorders, I thought I was in the clear. But everyone's order are now cancelled.   :dunno

Still baffles me how they could take a week to decide to cancel them - you'd think it could have been done within an hour of making the mistake and everyone would have understood it was an error - but to keep them live for a week is really kind of puzzling ( and if they do relist pre-orders again before launch would really not make sense since they could have just kept the first ones live.

Only reason for cancelling after a week that makes any sense - would be if NOA has specifically said not to take pre-orders in NA and Walmart was trying to work something out with them after the mistake was made to be able to keep them and NOA would not allow that. :dunno

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2017, 06:13:49 pm »
Perhaps it's a data gathering test to see what kind of numbers they can get on the pre-order? :)

One thing I should mention, even though I received the email, I still have the order listed as -Processing- on my Walmart account page.  They haven't officially canceled it *yet*.

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« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2017, 09:17:21 pm »
Perhaps it's a data gathering test to see what kind of numbers they can get on the pre-order? :)

One thing I should mention, even though I received the email, I still have the order listed as -Processing- on my Walmart account page.  They haven't officially canceled it *yet*.

Same here - and the transaction on my debit card is still On Hold

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2017, 10:28:58 pm »
This is some b.s.  These aren't units, they are the promise of units.  So why in the blue hell are they cancelling them?  When they do get units we get the first ones... it's a no-brainer.  This is like cancelling a reservation to dinner a month from now because the chef hasn't ordered the food yet. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2017, 10:33:46 pm »
I just checked their website again.  My order has now been updated to "cancelled" status. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2017, 11:44:22 pm »
Yeah same here. *sigh*
This is already starting out a gong-show.

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« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2017, 11:52:45 pm »
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2017, 12:28:04 am »
This is some b.s.  These aren't units, they are the promise of units.  So why in the blue hell are they cancelling them?  When they do get units we get the first ones... it's a no-brainer.  This is like cancelling a reservation to dinner a month from now because the chef hasn't ordered the food yet.

Might be that NOA has told all retailers in North America not to do pre-orders before launch day - as that is really the only reason I can think of that would make Walmart cancel them all and take 5 days to do it (If they were talking to NOA to see if they could just honor them since it was a mistake to sell them and NOA refused to allow it)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #102 on: July 27, 2017, 01:11:34 am »
That's irrelevant.  NOA has no control over pre-orders.  Actual console sales sure (you can't break release date for shipments), but not pre-orders.  I honestly can't think of a single scenario where it makes sense to cancel all the pre-orders.  Some, sure... many, ok that sucks but still sure..... but all??  WTF???

Think about it.  Let's say it went up early.  Ok so when they do have consoles available for preorder the first consoles should be allotted to those that did the early preorder.  If they don't have any left for the real preorder date that's tough because they already promised them to us.  Let's say that they took more preorders than they are supposed to get with their initial shipment.  Ok, still no problem.  You know that initial shipment?  Well they already sold out.  The next shipment.... it goes to fill the remaining preorders and so on.  If they don't get enough shipments THEN they start cancelling.  Of if they want to honor the release date and they sold too many, just look at the timestamp for the preorders and do it first come, first serve, cancelling the remaining ones.  As I said, no logical reason to cancel them all.  That is unless they wanted those consoles to put in some b.s. bundle that nobody wants... you know, like thinkgeek (aka gamestop) just did the other day when they "found" some remaining nes classics. 

I better get a gift card or something out of this because I haven't felt this screwed over from a purchase in a long time. 

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« Reply #103 on: July 27, 2017, 01:21:06 am »
That's irrelevant.  NOA has no control over pre-orders.  Actual console sales sure (you can't break release date for shipments), but not pre-orders. 

Unless NOA threatened to not ship any units to any retailer that sold pre-orders --- then they would definitely have some control over pre-orders !  :dunno

But I agree - they should have just kept the orders and filled them as supply arrived -- even if it meant having fewer/none for release day at the stores.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2017, 03:53:28 am »
Walmart's really going downhill.  They recently remodeled our local store (which is only a few years old, but whatever) and they "forgot" to do a Nintendo section for the new games department.  Seriously.... all the Nintendo stuff is crammed in the last of 5, count em' 5 Playstation cases.  I would say it's because the playstation stuff is selling well, but they have 5 cases for the xbox one, and we know that isn't selling. 

So brand new games section... it's frikkin huge..... and not a Nintendo sign to be found.  Just 4 switch games, whatever is left of the Wii U stock and a few 3ds games in a case even though the 3ds outsells everything else by a large margin and the switch is currently selling almost as fast as the ps4 did at this point. 

Oh but they put symbols on all the store signs for the illiterate, and are using a very expensive vinyl wrap to turn part of the outside of the store blue so I guess that remodel was well worth the money.  You seriously can't make this stuff up. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2017, 01:26:55 pm »



They'll be available to people who really want one.  The NES Classic was just available this week via bundles on ThinkGeek.  Really crappy expensive bundles but available nonetheless.

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« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2017, 01:36:24 pm »
So brand new games section... it's frikkin huge..... and not a Nintendo sign to be found.  Just 4 switch games, whatever is left of the Wii U stock and a few 3ds games in a case even though the 3ds outsells everything else by a large margin and the switch is currently selling almost as fast as the ps4 did at this point. 

They may have just figured there was no need for a Nintendo section since there are never any nintendo consoles in stock - so why tie up the shelf space when it sits empty 90% of the time.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2017, 01:49:18 pm »
I went to a big Wal-Mart recently and saw a bunch of Nintendo stuff but the ratio was one shelf of Nintendo for every 5 of PlayStation/Xbox.  Interestingly the Nintendo shelf was stocked.  Botw in stock.  A couple of switch consoles, even old wii games like Mario galaxy 2 (wtf).  Wide variety of stuff but nothing like the shelf space dedicated to other consoles but then again switch is 4 months old so who knows.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2017, 01:59:11 pm »



They'll be available to people who really want one.  The NES Classic was just available this week via bundles on ThinkGeek.  Really crappy expensive bundles but available nonetheless.

Yes you'll note that I mentioned that already.  :)  The thing is, for me at least the MSRP is very much part of the product's features.  If it goes up too much it's no longer the same product.  Like the NES Classic.... at 60 bucks it's priced about right.  At 100 it's a bit harder to justify, but sure I can see it if you really want it.  At $150 +..... LOL nope. 

The snes classic is already pushing it.... costing 20 bucks more even though we know that it's the same damn board with a different shell.  Yes, they are including two controllers, but thinking back they already created these gamepads several years ago for a Japan-only club Nintendo prize.... so r&d costs don't even exist for it.... probably cost them a buck a piece to make. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2017, 02:19:49 pm »
I'm with H_C on this one, the price point is definitely part of the selling feature for these things. There is no way I'd bother the hassle of tracking one down if it cost more than the current MSRP. And I agree they're pushing their luck with a $20 price hike.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2017, 05:36:57 pm »
To be fair Gamestop is just trying to save their company.  Physical media is never going away, but brick and mortar stores might... especially for something as easy to ship as games.  The problem is they have no clue how to save it and they are grasping at every straw within reach.  Selling over-priced novelty goods definitely isn't the solution, nor is forcing your customers to buy unwanted novelty goods in a bundle with games.  If they were smart, they would try to work out a deal with one of the hardware manufacturers and the publishing companies to allow people to "rent"  games via download... similar to Netflix.  Previous attempts have failed because it's always been some lousy third party company doing it on the pc.....consoles is where the money is at. 

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« Reply #111 on: July 29, 2017, 12:19:40 am »
I go in 2-3 times a year when they put a really good PS4 game on sale for $10.  Do the online pickup thing, never an issue.  Employees very polite and not pushy.  Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- some of the customers, though.  Wow.  I think it's the next stop for the People of Walmart.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #112 on: July 29, 2017, 07:42:08 am »
To be fair Gamestop is just trying to save their company.  Physical media is never going away, but brick and mortar stores might... especially for something as easy to ship as games.  The problem is they have no clue how to save it and they are grasping at every straw within reach.  Selling over-priced novelty goods definitely isn't the solution, nor is forcing your customers to buy unwanted novelty goods in a bundle with games.  If they were smart, they would try to work out a deal with one of the hardware manufacturers and the publishing companies to allow people to "rent"  games via download... similar to Netflix.  Previous attempts have failed because it's always been some lousy third party company doing it on the pc.....consoles is where the money is at.
But most of that novelty stuff ends up in the clearance bin. I got some mugs and plush things for less than 3 bucks each. So apparently nobody is buying the over priced stuff.

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« Reply #113 on: July 29, 2017, 11:01:21 am »
I think the main problem with Gamestop is they have way too many locations in some areas -- Here we have 9 stores within 6.5 miles of my house and a few others within 15 miles - and it's not that big of a city (approx 640,000 population) and there is no way there are that many people buying used games in enough quantity to keep that many running. They'll pretty much let a new franchisee open in a saturated market because they want the fees and don't really think about what it does to the existing franchisees or for that new franchisee.
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« Reply #114 on: July 29, 2017, 12:05:36 pm »
In the end they will survive online if Amazon doesnt kill that too. But there are too many stores. I have 2 right across the street from each other. So i have to go to both to get clearance crap.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #115 on: August 22, 2017, 12:34:05 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #116 on: August 22, 2017, 01:59:17 pm »
Amazon supposedly let out pre-orders at 1am last night, but I looked at the listing.... if it is indeed amazon then they need to fire whoever put it up because English clearly isn't their first language and they didn't even post a picture. 

That being said, the pre-orders were supposed to start "sometime in August"  Well it's the 22nd... somebody better get their butts in gear.  My guess is it might be the 28th, which would make it roughly 30 days from the product release date... so the scalpers can put it straight on ebay.  :(

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #117 on: August 22, 2017, 02:16:15 pm »
Amazon supposedly let out pre-orders at 1am last night, but I looked at the listing.... if it is indeed amazon then they need to fire whoever put it up because English clearly isn't their first language and they didn't even post a picture. 

That being said, the pre-orders were supposed to start "sometime in August"  Well it's the 22nd... somebody better get their butts in gear.  My guess is it might be the 28th, which would make it roughly 30 days from the product release date... so the scalpers can put it straight on ebay.  :(
Best Buy had preorders that went up last night and sold out quickly. Walmart and Target had preorders around 1 PM EST and sold out within a minute.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #118 on: August 22, 2017, 02:31:05 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.
Source?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #119 on: August 22, 2017, 03:22:02 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.
Source?

Kotaku.   :lol

"While that leaked version wasn’t quite 100 percent finished, the version I played on SNES Classic didn’t seem to differ too much, if at all. "

That's "please don't strip my press credentials" code for "exactly the same."

https://kotaku.com/we-played-snes-classic-and-it-has-rewind-now-1798161324


Hopefully hackers are able to strip out this updated emulator and port it over to the NES Classic.  I don't care about rewind, but those overlays covering up the black would be nice.  One of the few oversights on the NES Classic....