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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2017, 03:42:16 pm »
I do regular maintenance on my gamepads thank-you-very-much.  The nes classic gamepad feels identical to my original nes gamepad, for example.  Considering the snes pad is newer than it, yeah they aren't worn out. 

Yes and the playstation makes some of the worst gamepads since the Atari Jaguar.  They are ergonomically backwards because the original psx gamepad was just a clunky snes rip off and then when it was time to copy the n64 they just hap-hazardly threw some thumbsticks in the worst possible area.  To this day I don't really game on Sony systems solely because of the gamepads.  It's not rocket science really.  Hold anything in two hands.  See where your thumbs naturally angle up and towards the center?  That is ergonomically correct.  So any button or stick that is far enough away to require extension of the thumbs should angle the thumb up and towards the center.  But sony put their thumbsticks, the part of the controls that need to be the most precise, down and towards the center.  Your thumbs are extending the wrong way.  Now the nes gamepad isn't perfect, but unlike the dogbone it doesn't require you to extend your thumb down and towards the center when covering both buttons.  You of course can try to just press in between both buttons, but that isn't reliable for fast-paced gameplay.

Now people can argue that they like these back asswards gamepads sure, but they just like them.  Objectively they are worse for your hands.  This has nothing to do with the snes pads btw as they are ergonomically correct due to the button mappings that have any usual combined presses being mapped up and to the center (see smw, ect..) of course the fighters still suffered from it, but very few moves had you press multiple face buttons at once.  For the record the nes gamepad is just ergonomically neutral (just towards the center) which is neither good nor bad.  The issue with snes pads is primarily the mushy d-pad.... it's still the best one of that generation to be sure, but it doesn't compare to the nes.

It sounds like you are confused in the conversation.  The past is the past.  I'm arguing that the Nes Classic will have more demand than a Snes Classic because the games hold up better and would appeal more to new and casual audiences.  I'm not sure what you are arguing as you keep mentioning that it mattered then.... who cares about then?  We are talking about now.


Because I am talking about the original SNES and the Original NES not the modern incarnations.

As for the Sony controllers I like them. They are comfortable and work well.
However that being said I have used some rip off versions (pc controllers etc) which have felt wrong and generally bad.
So I can sort of see your point but the actual Sony controllers nah they are great IMO.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2017, 04:47:55 pm »
Ugh, the Sony controllers have the worst d-pad.
Old games require a dpad, if your analoging old games you're for sure a hipster poseur <-- blanket statement.

But seriously, the Saturn model 2 controller is vastly superior to the SNES. If you haven't tried it before, you're in for a treat. Best d-pad aside from the NES...EVAR.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2017, 06:11:59 pm »
Maybe it's because I'm from the uk but no one i know had a nes. By the time they came out we'd already had c64's and spectrums for years and the nes just didn't compare against the amiga and Atari st.

When the snes came out it was so much better than everything else around at the time it was ridiculous. For that reason I'm kinda curious about the snes mini if it comes out. But the nes? Meh.

Agree about the Saturn pad tho. Awesome. Why modern consoles can't do decent joypads is a mystery to me.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2017, 07:05:42 pm »
Yeah, that Saturn pad was great.  I like the Dualshock 4s, too.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2017, 07:30:21 pm »
Maybe it's because I'm from the uk but no one i know had a nes. By the time they came out we'd already had c64's and spectrums for years and the nes just didn't compare against the amiga and Atari st.


Your right... they didn't compare.  The NES had hundreds of fun games produced by professional companies.  The non-ibm pcs had a handful of fun games produced by four guys in their basement.  ;)  Yes I've played these other systems.... the games just aren't as good. 

Saturn is pretty good.  The DS4 still kind of sucks though.  At least they finally increased the size of the grips so normal human hands can hold them. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2017, 03:03:56 am »
There was actually lots of good games on those "non ibm's".
Lots of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to but then you can say the same about the NES for that.

The funny thing about the PC based games was you could quite literally buy a game out of the newspaper that you had to program yourself.
I was to young at the time for that but I know people who did it.

Also they obviously did so much more than gaming, you could work on them to!

Ya right they dont compare at all because they are totally different animals.
No different to the modern day PC vs PS4 or whatever argument.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2017, 05:56:35 am »
 This looks cool but I'm not going to be getting one.

There are hundred different ways to emulated the SNES and I don't need another one. I also have two working SNES's and the actual retro console is worth way more nostalgia points that another modern clone.

Saturn controller was awesome and the best games on the Saturn hold up better the the PS1. But the PS1 library was so massive there is a lot of good stuff there worth playing. Last summer I even bought a working PS one that was the same model I had as a kid (one of the early ones with AV port in the back) even though I have a PSone (the mini) a PS2, and an early PS4 that can also play my PS1 games, just for nostalgia.


 
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2017, 09:24:15 am »



Was the NES or SMS gamepad first?  I can't remember for sure.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 09:33:53 am »
SMS pad never lasted.  Everyone that actually played their Master Systems (all 5 of us) used the Sega Control Stick, which is probably the only mainstream right handed joystick ever.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 10:01:20 pm »
If it has Star fox, I will buy one.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2017, 02:41:31 pm »
If it has Star fox, I will buy one.

Get the pre-order placed - Not only does it have Starfox but also includes the completed unreleased Starfox 2

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2017, 02:55:26 pm »
Man, that lineup is great. But people will still hack it to load the entire library.

I wonder about that Star Fox 2 release.

Isn't the version floating around the interwebs a leaked beta version that was finished off by hackers?

I wonder if Ninty officially finished the game for this release or they're just using the hacked fix.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2017, 03:13:36 pm »
Company unable to make enough of hot ticket item will totally be able to make enough of 2nd hot ticket item (Fauxclusive)

https://www.destructoid.com/company-unable-to-make-enough-of-hot-ticket-item-will-totally-be-able-to-make-enough-of-2nd-hot-ticket-item-fauxclusive--445154.phtml

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2017, 03:16:19 pm »
Man, that lineup is great. But people will still hack it to load the entire library.

I wonder about that Star Fox 2 release.

Isn't the version floating around the interwebs a leaked beta version that was finished off by hackers?

I wonder if Ninty officially finished the game for this release or they're just using the hacked fix.

Accordng to this article : http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/a_totally_complete_version_of_star_fox_2_really_does_exist

in an interview wth Q-Games boss Dylan Cuthbert,

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In our interview, Cuthbert reveals that a final, totally finished version of Star Fox 2 actually exists - and that he was able to play the game during the development of Star Fox Command:
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2017, 03:24:58 pm »
Company unable to make enough of hot ticket item will totally be able to make enough of 2nd hot ticket item (Fauxclusive)

https://www.destructoid.com/company-unable-to-make-enough-of-hot-ticket-item-will-totally-be-able-to-make-enough-of-2nd-hot-ticket-item-fauxclusive--445154.phtml




Can't say I care.  I only need one.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2017, 03:32:56 pm »
Can't say I care.  I only need one.

Hopefully the retail outlets at least can fill their pre-orders !

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2017, 03:37:05 pm »



Well, if people really want to preorder locally, do it at more than one place.  Then sell the extra(s) at price to someone who couldn't get one.  Best of both worlds.  Or just back out on all the preorders after the first one that worked.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2017, 03:59:59 pm »
Can't say I care.  I only need one.

Pretty sure you missed the point, read the article.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2017, 04:42:40 pm »
Is someone actually taking pre-orders?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2017, 05:01:54 pm »
Hrm.  Tempting.  I've been pondering ordering a Switch from Amazon UK.  Actually works out less than ordering one in the US.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2017, 07:08:03 pm »
It's not tempting... that's the hideous super famicom styling, not the timeless US snes. 

It might be a good idea to start buying games from the UK though... the pound/euro are weak.     

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2017, 11:22:54 pm »
Hey something I noticed on the official website:

http://www.nintendo.com/super-nes-classic

Notice something wrong with that picture?........................  Where do you plug the controllers in???? 

Seriously if you look closely those controller ports on the front don't actually have any holes in them and even if they did, it isn't classic controller shaped.  It mentions compatibility with the classic controllers so my guess is they've made yet another controller related blunder.  The controller ports are in the back, which is profoundly stupid considering how light these mini consoles are. People will be pulling them in the floor, especially if they get cheap and use short cords again. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2017, 11:45:46 pm »
Yeah notice in every picture they don't show the right side?
Those front ports are only impressed into the plastic, so my assumption is they got some side ports on the right.
As for supporting classic controllers, it's probably some wacky adapter dongle, because I can't imagine how two full snes ports are going to fit on the side like that.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2017, 11:47:06 pm »
Might end up like the Euro-version where the front plate folds down.  ???


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2017, 11:56:15 pm »
Oh for crying out loud.  :timebomb:

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2017, 01:15:07 am »
Well that's colossally stupid.  I'm all about authenticity, but things have to be updated for function... if that was a transformer toy they'd call the faceplate kibble. 

Also I sure as hell hope that isn't the actual cord length. 

Man this is looking worse and worse.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2017, 09:34:13 am »



Chill, there is no way they're going to release a console with 12" controller cords.  That's a marketing mockup photo.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2017, 01:20:26 pm »
Well that's colossally stupid.  I'm all about authenticity, but things have to be updated for function... if that was a transformer toy they'd call the faceplate kibble. 

Also I sure as hell hope that isn't the actual cord length. 

Man this is looking worse and worse.
Cords are supposed to be 2 feet longer than the nes classic ones

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2017, 01:24:12 pm »
Extension cables are $3 from Amazon.  Get over it.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2017, 01:33:44 pm »



Found a more recent pic of the US version.



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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2017, 03:50:14 pm »

Found a more recent pic of the US version.





Thats more realistic
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2017, 09:07:43 pm »
I bleached mine and got most of that out.  Now I don't have a clue how long it'll stay that way, but I'm just sayin'.... not as big a deal as everyone makes it. 

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« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2017, 11:39:35 am »
mine didn't do that yellowing thing. mind you, i keep my stuff in the basement away from sunlight and whatnot.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #74 on: July 01, 2017, 02:01:51 am »
I'm less excited by this functionality, but I'll probably still pick up the SNES mini classic if I can.
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« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2017, 03:17:32 am »
that's.... kinda janky. not even straight.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2017, 01:17:51 pm »
It's not tempting... that's the hideous super famicom styling, not the timeless US snes. 

Really? The majority of people (including myself) actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

However, I do agree with the comments about the folding down front plate. That's a really dumb idea.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2017, 01:34:26 pm »
Really? The majority of people (including myself) actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.
Please post the poll that shows this majority vote data. Kthx

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« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2017, 01:44:26 pm »
Really? The majority of people who have expressed an opinion on the subject, and then notified me of their opinion, actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2017, 01:59:37 pm »
^Fake news

But seriously, the SFC is just boring looking. Uninspiring af.
I'm with H_C on this one, the SNES is where it's at. Classic. "A majority of people prefer it"  ::)

  
 

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