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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 08:43:38 pm »
Maybe, maybe not.  If it were a more reputable website I would have more confidence in the announcement.  I'm torn on that one.  On the one hand a snes mini would have a classic 6-button gamepad that would make it more friendly to hacking in other systems.  On the other I've got rgb out on my snes and it looks quite good and my super everdrive is on the way. 

The thing is they make them so darn cheap.  If it's real I'll probably get one just to throw on a shelf.  An expensive nick-nack sure, but when it's functional and sanctioned by Nintendo it's kind of special.

In the meantime I think I'll dig through some of the "gamepad to i2c" code out on the interwebs and add support for more exotic systems like the virtual boy.  I bought one, but boy it kills my eyes even more than when I used to play the Hills kiosk as a kid.  Sitting back in front of the big screen probably makes more sense. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2017, 09:21:35 pm »
I saw a picture of the super famicom mini nox on facebook with game titles on the box. The list was super mario world, link to the past, street fighter 2, and starfox.

Doubt its was real though.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2017, 09:29:15 pm »
I guess it wasnt the super famicom version. Here is the pic i saw.
If this is really the game list though that kinda sucks. I mean all of those are good choices but they are leaving out some good ones. Gotta have chrono trigger, kirby, donkey kong country trilogy,  mortal kombat 2, battletoads, and secret of mana.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2017, 09:41:26 pm »
Hopefully if they do end up selling a "classic" version of the SNES, it will get hacked so that the whole game library can get squeezed on there like the NES version.  ;)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2017, 09:55:39 pm »
Unless they expand the storage capacity that is unlikely.  They could (and probably would to save costs) use the exact same board for the snes version and while 300mb is more than enough for a massive nes library, the snes game collection is a few gigs.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2017, 03:11:10 am »
Ide believe it.
But only because it makes sense.

They have seen a opportunity and now exploiting it to the max.

Personally ide rather a real SNES with a ever drive but thats just me :)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2017, 08:16:38 am »
Unless they expand the storage capacity that is unlikely.  They could (and probably would to save costs) use the exact same board for the snes version and while 300mb is more than enough for a massive nes library, the snes game collection is a few gigs.

That's true. The game library is quite a bit bigger. That said, hopefully a decent chunk of it could fit on there. Especially if you take out region duplicates and some of the stuff that isn't very good. I do agree that having the original SNES with RGB out and an Everdrive or SD2SNES would be more ideal. However, if they offer preorders for the classic SNES and it's only $60, that would be quite a bargain to be able to play so many awesome games in a pretty convenient package...

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2017, 09:24:01 am »
So the us snes library is about 656mb for 765 games. That would mean you could fit anywhere from 250 to 350 roms on this thing, which is more than enough to have all the best games. I assume its emulated so i hope it supports speacial fx chip games. My everdrive doesn't play super mario rpg, star fox, yoshies island, and 2 kirby games, sd o i hope the mini supports them.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2017, 09:50:57 am »
I only speak from experience at a recent video game "swap meet" but it was maybe 70% NES, 20% N64, 5% SNES, 5% Other (Atari/Genesis/whatever).  I think demand is going to be considerably cooler for an SNES Classic.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2017, 10:43:20 am »
I only speak from experience at a recent video game "swap meet" but it was maybe 70% NES, 20% N64, 5% SNES, 5% Other (Atari/Genesis/whatever).  I think demand is going to be considerably cooler for an SNES Classic.

 :dunno

I agree.  There doesn't seem to be the nostalgia for the SNES there is with the NES.  Most civilians can't tell them apart.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2017, 10:48:35 am »
I thought the snes was the greatest console of all time.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2017, 11:15:58 am »
I thought the snes was the greatest console of all time.

It is one of my favorites and certainly better than the NES.  I still remember the first time I noticed that Zelda was in stereo.  Seems quaint now but hearing a pot you threw at a wall on the left break in the left speaker was amazing.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2017, 11:34:42 am »
Nintendo is probably going to pull the same  :censored: with the NES Classic and favor scalpers. These little devices are to just hype up Nintendo and the Switch unfortunately. Also It's cool the NES Classic got modded, but realistically it makes more sense to just get a Pi and setup RetroPie.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2017, 11:38:53 am »
Most of what I was interested in playing in the 16 bit era were ports of arcade games.  This favored the Genesis.  MAME has rendered them obsolete.  Most of the role playing games have been redone in better forms on other consoles and my interest in those is virtually nil.

Hopefully I'll actually be able to get my hands on one, and then mod it to play NES games.   :lol


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2017, 02:06:16 pm »
Yeah the classics on the SNES is a bit limited. Mostly the Nintendo titles,  Castlevania 4, Megaman X series and that's it.  The rest are arcade ports. The game pad would make it great for MAME though.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2017, 03:47:58 pm »
But, what about Axelay? And R-Type III?

Also TMNT:Turtles in Time was a superior version on SNES than the arcade, as well as UN Squadron.

 

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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2017, 04:03:16 pm »
Huh, I had no idea there were so many differences with Turtles in Time.  I'll have to give the SNES version a shot.  I've never played the arcade game for more than a few minutes as it never had the nostalgia punch that the first one did.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2017, 04:21:53 pm »
Yeah, throwing foot soldiers directly at the screen (using the mode-7 scaling of the SNES) is one of the most satisfying things to do in any game!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2017, 04:32:04 pm »
F-Zero on the SNES might be my all-time favorite "racing" game. 

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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2017, 04:33:11 pm »
Ick, really?  I had the misfortune of playing that last weekend at the Game Preserve on one of those dopey SNES cabinets.  Walked away halfway through lap 1.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2017, 04:34:12 pm »
F-Zero on the SNES might be my all-time favorite "racing" game.
Uniracers!

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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2017, 04:39:40 pm »
F-Zero on the SNES might be my all-time favorite "racing" game.
Uniracers!

Had to Bing that one.   ;D

Ick, really?  I had the misfortune of playing that last weekend at the Game Preserve on one of those dopey SNES cabinets.  Walked away halfway through lap 1.


Seriously.  I even bought it for my WiiU but I can't stand playing it unless I have an original controller. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2017, 04:44:07 pm »
F-Zero on the SNES might be my all-time favorite "racing" game.
Uniracers!

Had to Bing that one.   ;D

Ick, really?  I had the misfortune of playing that last weekend at the Game Preserve on one of those dopey SNES cabinets.  Walked away halfway through lap 1.


Seriously.  I even bought it for my WiiU but I can't stand playing it unless I have an original controller.
Bro first switch to google, second go play uniracers. It is the shizz. Unfortunately they got sued by pixar so it will not be making an appearance again.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2017, 05:11:42 pm »
I only speak from experience at a recent video game "swap meet" but it was maybe 70% NES, 20% N64, 5% SNES, 5% Other (Atari/Genesis/whatever).  I think demand is going to be considerably cooler for an SNES Classic.

 :dunno

Intresting...

Most people I talk to barely remember the NES its always the SNES or the N64 they seem to talk about with regard Nintendo.
Mega Drive/Genesis was also very popular over here.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2017, 05:27:03 pm »
I only speak from experience at a recent video game "swap meet" but it was maybe 70% NES, 20% N64, 5% SNES, 5% Other (Atari/Genesis/whatever).  I think demand is going to be considerably cooler for an SNES Classic.

 :dunno

Intresting...

Most people I talk to barely remember the NES its always the SNES or the N64 they seem to talk about with regard Nintendo.
Mega Drive/Genesis was also very popular over here.
Same here but i was born in 91 so thats what most of my friends had,

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2017, 08:21:33 pm »
Nostalgia all depends on what you played when you were a kid.  I was an Atari 2600 kid.  Warlords 4 player ftw.

On topic, if I saw either the NES Classic or the SNES classic on a shelf for regular price I would buy them in a hot minute.  I have all these systems emulated of course, but the cool factor of an actual Nintendo product would be too hard to resist.  Too bad the company doesn't give a damn.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2017, 02:06:27 am »
I played both NES and SNES as a kid (ime a 80's kid lol) but always think of the SNES first.

It was just a better console in every respect and most of the games I played on NES were on SNES anyway.
But I always preferred the mega drive personally.

Atari etc were funny ones really as not many people I knew had one. I had a C64 and my bestie had a Atari but cant remember which model.

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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2017, 01:49:55 pm »
Objectively the NES is a better system with a better library.  Why?  Well, for the first time developers had a popular console that had powerful enough hardware to make virtually any type of multi-stage game.  But that concept was brand new, so they didn't know what types of games to make.  What happened was they tried anything and everything, throwing ideas at the wall to see what stuck.  So in the end the NES had a varied and unique library.  Also the market was about 90% Nintendo, so virtually anything worth playing that generation was on the NES. 

The SNES is just a NES on steroids.  By this time developers had narrowed their vision and took less risks to maximize profit.  Basically every game on the system was a beat-em-up or a Super Mario clone, and most of the SM clones sucked.  The thing it did have going for it were superior arcade ports, and while that mattered then, it really doesn't now as most of those games are just better in MAME. 

That doesn't mean that I don't love the snes, I do, and I probably spent more time on the snes as a kid, but if were are going to compare them ignoring nostalgia, it's a no-brainer. 

Also people from the UK can't really comment on the NES because it didn't catch on in that region.  You were all heavily invested in lousy non-ibm PCs, playing games developed by 4 guys in a basement.  ;)

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2017, 02:22:21 pm »
Objectively the NES is a better system with a better library.  Why?  Well, for the first time developers had a popular console that had powerful enough hardware to make virtually any type of multi-stage game.  But that concept was brand new, so they didn't know what types of games to make.  What happened was they tried anything and everything, throwing ideas at the wall to see what stuck.  So in the end the NES had a varied and unique library.  Also the market was about 90% Nintendo, so virtually anything worth playing that generation was on the NES. 

The SNES is just a NES on steroids.  By this time developers had narrowed their vision and took less risks to maximize profit.  Basically every game on the system was a beat-em-up or a Super Mario clone, and most of the SM clones sucked.  The thing it did have going for it were superior arcade ports, and while that mattered then, it really doesn't now as most of those games are just better in MAME. 

That doesn't mean that I don't love the snes, I do, and I probably spent more time on the snes as a kid, but if were are going to compare them ignoring nostalgia, it's a no-brainer. 

Also people from the UK can't really comment on the NES because it didn't catch on in that region.  You were all heavily invested in lousy non-ibm PCs, playing games developed by 4 guys in a basement.  ;)

I can comment on them as I owned one as did many of my friends ;)

The fact it has a huge library of many terrible games is not a pro for me!

I rather quality of quantity.

Dont get me wrong I love the NES, and the gaming world owes much to it, Even the very existence of it possibly!

But the controllers were horrid (lets be honest rectangular controllers are badly designed!) and the best games of the system made it to the SNES anyway.

You can ignore nostalgia but you cant really compare old consoles with hindsight.
 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2017, 04:36:50 pm »
The NES gamepad is the perfect gamepad.  All gamepads are descendants of it.  What you just said is blasphemy.  The rectangular shape will only bother you if you have some kind of death grip on the gamepad, in which case you are doing it wrong... it lies in your cupped hands while you press buttons... you don't grip it. 

The best games of the system didn't make it to the snes.  Their sequels did.  For the most part, the originals were better.  SMB 3 is better than SMW.  The nes mega mans are better than mmx.  You know that open-world, no rules Zelda that just came out where you could got anywhere and do anything in virtually any order?  That is what the original LOZ is like... LTTP and subsequent sequels became increasingly linear.  I think Castlevania IV might be better than the originals, but it's really just a 16 bit remake of the first game.  I think it's a solid argument than Super Metroid is better than the original, but then again, much like Zelda, the lack of a map and explicit instructions or directions made the original more fun imho. 

And you say you want quality over quantity, well so do I, and that's why the NES is better.  SMW, Super Metroid, and LTTP are quality games..... and.... yeah that's about it.  The rest are excellent arcade ports, games that have since been surpassed by more modern sequels, or games that really don't live up to their sequels and/or have an equally good nes game in their anthology.  Doesn't matter anyway as Nintendo would only include ~30 games.

I played the snes longer and I had a ton of fun with it, but looking back, aside from Super Mario World and a few oddball gems like that it was mostly a machine for me to play Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II with my friends.  I play those on MAME now.  Looking back at the NES, after rental shops went into full swing were were playing at least one new game a week for about 8 years!  Some of them were crap sure, but the bulk were really good and it was exciting to see what each game was like because they were all so different. 

Also you've got to understand that these sorts of products are not for us, they are for the casuals.  Sure having played LTTP and LOZ multiple times over the years you might prefer LTTP, but they person who has never played either, or hasn't played them in 25 years, they might get more enjoyment out of the original due to the harder challenge. 

Anyway the discussion is rather pointless, I'll be just as excited about the SNES classic as you guys. 

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« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2017, 04:49:06 pm »
You know, there are a LOT of third party manufacturers with a LOT of unsold NES Classic accessories that they're stuck with.  Stock up, Howard, they're gonna be 10 cents shipped soon.

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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2017, 05:12:28 pm »
You guys are forgetting the RPG genre of the SNES/SFC. Some of the greatest RPGs of all time are on that system, and while that doesn't matter to most of this crowd, it was a significant time for game development.
Yes there were NES rpg's, but they were vastly improved upon in the SNES and have influenced a lot of modern games of every genre today.

But for the most part I agree with Howard. A lot of the original non-RPGs were better with a few exceptions. That's not to sell the system short though. I still love the SNES, but for different reasons I love the NES.

For more lofty experience games I prefer the SNES. But for quick skill based games I prefer the NES.

There's a lot of charm put into the NES games that was lost for SNES, but at the same time the breadth of games and advancement in sprite art and capabilities for the SNES was charming itself.

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« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2017, 05:18:58 pm »
The NES gamepad is the perfect gamepad.  All gamepads are descendants of it.  What you just said is blasphemy.  The rectangular shape will only bother you if you have some kind of death grip on the gamepad, in which case you are doing it wrong... it lies in your cupped hands while you press buttons... you don't grip it. 

The best games of the system didn't make it to the snes.  Their sequels did.  For the most part, the originals were better.  SMB 3 is better than SMW.  The nes mega mans are better than mmx.  You know that open-world, no rules Zelda that just came out where you could got anywhere and do anything in virtually any order?  That is what the original LOZ is like... LTTP and subsequent sequels became increasingly linear.  I think Castlevania IV might be better than the originals, but it's really just a 16 bit remake of the first game.  I think it's a solid argument than Super Metroid is better than the original, but then again, much like Zelda, the lack of a map and explicit instructions or directions made the original more fun imho. 

And you say you want quality over quantity, well so do I, and that's why the NES is better.  SMW, Super Metroid, and LTTP are quality games..... and.... yeah that's about it.  The rest are excellent arcade ports, games that have since been surpassed by more modern sequels, or games that really don't live up to their sequels and/or have an equally good nes game in their anthology.  Doesn't matter anyway as Nintendo would only include ~30 games.

I played the snes longer and I had a ton of fun with it, but looking back, aside from Super Mario World and a few oddball gems like that it was mostly a machine for me to play Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II with my friends.  I play those on MAME now.  Looking back at the NES, after rental shops went into full swing were were playing at least one new game a week for about 8 years!  Some of them were crap sure, but the bulk were really good and it was exciting to see what each game was like because they were all so different. 

Also you've got to understand that these sorts of products are not for us, they are for the casuals.  Sure having played LTTP and LOZ multiple times over the years you might prefer LTTP, but they person who has never played either, or hasn't played them in 25 years, they might get more enjoyment out of the original due to the harder challenge. 

Anyway the discussion is rather pointless, I'll be just as excited about the SNES classic as you guys.

1) nope, the controllers were horrid. Other controllers may or may not of evolved from them but rectangular was a very poor choice.
Mega drive controllers and SNES controllers sat much better in the hands.

2) As I remember it Mario 1-3 was on the SNES in Super Mario Allstars plus others...

3) Nothing wrong with good arcade ports, like I said you cant compare a old console to mame with hindsight.
The ability to play MK and SF2 and others were one of the main reasons I got a SNES.

But yes I agree they are not for us, And I would not buy one unless very cheap but thats another matter :)

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« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2017, 06:28:39 pm »
I didn't care for the square shape, which is why I prefer the dogbone controller. But the buttons and D-pad were top notch. The snes d-pad and buttons are the evolution of the NES, but I still think the NES' felt better.

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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2017, 08:23:13 pm »
Yup, the throw and overall feel of the NES gamepad is superior.  The snes pad's dpad and buttons feel a little mushy.  I've got them both right here (*presses buttons*) yup... the nes pad is better.  The dogbone kind of sucks though.  The buttons are diagonal, but slanted in the wrong direction, making it ergonomically awkward to press both buttons at once.   

Mario all Stars is not the nes games.  They are remakes and just aren't the same.  Also the game genie codes aren't as good and 50% of the SMB games is doing crazy stuff via game genie. 

There is nothing wrong with good arcade ports at the time but now most arcade games are readily accessible... not just via emulators and hacking, but just downloading then through services like xbox live, or steam, ect.  It's kind of like pacman and galaga on the NES classic.... two wasted slots imho as you can get them on everything from your cell phone to frikkin google doodles.  The Donkey Kong games as well, but I give them a pass as Nintendo has never really released the arcade versions on anything.

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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2017, 09:41:44 pm »
+1 for NES controller as best ever.

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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2017, 09:56:33 pm »
You know, there are a LOT of third party manufacturers with a LOT of unsold NES Classic accessories that they're stuck with.  Stock up, Howard, they're gonna be 10 cents shipped soon.

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I'm gonna get one of those advantage knock-offs eventually.  As you said, I'm waiting for the price to drop.  One of the carrying cases could be nice I guess, but this baby isn't going anywhere.... when I'm done playing it it'll go in the World of Nintendo case I'm building.  Been thinking of printing to scale power gloves and zappers to throw in there as well.

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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2017, 02:39:06 am »
Yup, the throw and overall feel of the NES gamepad is superior.  The snes pad's dpad and buttons feel a little mushy.  I've got them both right here (*presses buttons*) yup... the nes pad is better.  The dogbone kind of sucks though.  The buttons are diagonal, but slanted in the wrong direction, making it ergonomically awkward to press both buttons at once.   

Mario all Stars is not the nes games.  They are remakes and just aren't the same.  Also the game genie codes aren't as good and 50% of the SMB games is doing crazy stuff via game genie. 

There is nothing wrong with good arcade ports at the time but now most arcade games are readily accessible... not just via emulators and hacking, but just downloading then through services like xbox live, or steam, ect.  It's kind of like pacman and galaga on the NES classic.... two wasted slots imho as you can get them on everything from your cell phone to frikkin google doodles.  The Donkey Kong games as well, but I give them a pass as Nintendo has never really released the arcade versions on anything.

Cant really comment on the throw or feel of buttons as I no longer own originals of either but I would imagine they dont feel sharp after this amount of time lol

Not sure what you mean by slanted in the wrong direction? Its the same layout as a PS button wise and if held in the correct fashion perfectly useable to hit 2 at once.
I do remember having to bend ya thumb knuckle due to the thickness of the controller though for certain button combos but that was rare.

Mario all stars was better remakes imo, as for the game genie never used it so dont care lol

And like I keep saying you cant look at a old console and compare it in hindsight to new tech.

Sure you can emulate old arcade games, play them on mobile etc etc but at the time you could not. And that is why the SNES was as good as it was.
It had all the good points of the NES plus the advantage of playing MK etc.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2017, 02:42:29 pm »
I do regular maintenance on my gamepads thank-you-very-much.  The nes classic gamepad feels identical to my original nes gamepad, for example.  Considering the snes pad is newer than it, yeah they aren't worn out. 

Yes and the playstation makes some of the worst gamepads since the Atari Jaguar.  They are ergonomically backwards because the original psx gamepad was just a clunky snes rip off and then when it was time to copy the n64 they just hap-hazardly threw some thumbsticks in the worst possible area.  To this day I don't really game on Sony systems solely because of the gamepads.  It's not rocket science really.  Hold anything in two hands.  See where your thumbs naturally angle up and towards the center?  That is ergonomically correct.  So any button or stick that is far enough away to require extension of the thumbs should angle the thumb up and towards the center.  But sony put their thumbsticks, the part of the controls that need to be the most precise, down and towards the center.  Your thumbs are extending the wrong way.  Now the nes gamepad isn't perfect, but unlike the dogbone it doesn't require you to extend your thumb down and towards the center when covering both buttons.  You of course can try to just press in between both buttons, but that isn't reliable for fast-paced gameplay.

Now people can argue that they like these back asswards gamepads sure, but they just like them.  Objectively they are worse for your hands.  This has nothing to do with the snes pads btw as they are ergonomically correct due to the button mappings that have any usual combined presses being mapped up and to the center (see smw, ect..) of course the fighters still suffered from it, but very few moves had you press multiple face buttons at once.  For the record the nes gamepad is just ergonomically neutral (just towards the center) which is neither good nor bad.  The issue with snes pads is primarily the mushy d-pad.... it's still the best one of that generation to be sure, but it doesn't compare to the nes.

It sounds like you are confused in the conversation.  The past is the past.  I'm arguing that the Nes Classic will have more demand than a Snes Classic because the games hold up better and would appeal more to new and casual audiences.  I'm not sure what you are arguing as you keep mentioning that it mattered then.... who cares about then?  We are talking about now. 

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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2017, 03:42:16 pm »
I do regular maintenance on my gamepads thank-you-very-much.  The nes classic gamepad feels identical to my original nes gamepad, for example.  Considering the snes pad is newer than it, yeah they aren't worn out. 

Yes and the playstation makes some of the worst gamepads since the Atari Jaguar.  They are ergonomically backwards because the original psx gamepad was just a clunky snes rip off and then when it was time to copy the n64 they just hap-hazardly threw some thumbsticks in the worst possible area.  To this day I don't really game on Sony systems solely because of the gamepads.  It's not rocket science really.  Hold anything in two hands.  See where your thumbs naturally angle up and towards the center?  That is ergonomically correct.  So any button or stick that is far enough away to require extension of the thumbs should angle the thumb up and towards the center.  But sony put their thumbsticks, the part of the controls that need to be the most precise, down and towards the center.  Your thumbs are extending the wrong way.  Now the nes gamepad isn't perfect, but unlike the dogbone it doesn't require you to extend your thumb down and towards the center when covering both buttons.  You of course can try to just press in between both buttons, but that isn't reliable for fast-paced gameplay.

Now people can argue that they like these back asswards gamepads sure, but they just like them.  Objectively they are worse for your hands.  This has nothing to do with the snes pads btw as they are ergonomically correct due to the button mappings that have any usual combined presses being mapped up and to the center (see smw, ect..) of course the fighters still suffered from it, but very few moves had you press multiple face buttons at once.  For the record the nes gamepad is just ergonomically neutral (just towards the center) which is neither good nor bad.  The issue with snes pads is primarily the mushy d-pad.... it's still the best one of that generation to be sure, but it doesn't compare to the nes.

It sounds like you are confused in the conversation.  The past is the past.  I'm arguing that the Nes Classic will have more demand than a Snes Classic because the games hold up better and would appeal more to new and casual audiences.  I'm not sure what you are arguing as you keep mentioning that it mattered then.... who cares about then?  We are talking about now.


Because I am talking about the original SNES and the Original NES not the modern incarnations.

As for the Sony controllers I like them. They are comfortable and work well.
However that being said I have used some rip off versions (pc controllers etc) which have felt wrong and generally bad.
So I can sort of see your point but the actual Sony controllers nah they are great IMO.

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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2017, 04:47:55 pm »
Ugh, the Sony controllers have the worst d-pad.
Old games require a dpad, if your analoging old games you're for sure a hipster poseur <-- blanket statement.

But seriously, the Saturn model 2 controller is vastly superior to the SNES. If you haven't tried it before, you're in for a treat. Best d-pad aside from the NES...EVAR.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2017, 06:11:59 pm »
Maybe it's because I'm from the uk but no one i know had a nes. By the time they came out we'd already had c64's and spectrums for years and the nes just didn't compare against the amiga and Atari st.

When the snes came out it was so much better than everything else around at the time it was ridiculous. For that reason I'm kinda curious about the snes mini if it comes out. But the nes? Meh.

Agree about the Saturn pad tho. Awesome. Why modern consoles can't do decent joypads is a mystery to me.

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« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2017, 07:05:42 pm »
Yeah, that Saturn pad was great.  I like the Dualshock 4s, too.


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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2017, 07:30:21 pm »
Maybe it's because I'm from the uk but no one i know had a nes. By the time they came out we'd already had c64's and spectrums for years and the nes just didn't compare against the amiga and Atari st.


Your right... they didn't compare.  The NES had hundreds of fun games produced by professional companies.  The non-ibm pcs had a handful of fun games produced by four guys in their basement.  ;)  Yes I've played these other systems.... the games just aren't as good. 

Saturn is pretty good.  The DS4 still kind of sucks though.  At least they finally increased the size of the grips so normal human hands can hold them. 

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« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2017, 03:03:56 am »
There was actually lots of good games on those "non ibm's".
Lots of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- to but then you can say the same about the NES for that.

The funny thing about the PC based games was you could quite literally buy a game out of the newspaper that you had to program yourself.
I was to young at the time for that but I know people who did it.

Also they obviously did so much more than gaming, you could work on them to!

Ya right they dont compare at all because they are totally different animals.
No different to the modern day PC vs PS4 or whatever argument.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2017, 05:56:35 am »
 This looks cool but I'm not going to be getting one.

There are hundred different ways to emulated the SNES and I don't need another one. I also have two working SNES's and the actual retro console is worth way more nostalgia points that another modern clone.

Saturn controller was awesome and the best games on the Saturn hold up better the the PS1. But the PS1 library was so massive there is a lot of good stuff there worth playing. Last summer I even bought a working PS one that was the same model I had as a kid (one of the early ones with AV port in the back) even though I have a PSone (the mini) a PS2, and an early PS4 that can also play my PS1 games, just for nostalgia.


 
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2017, 09:24:15 am »



Was the NES or SMS gamepad first?  I can't remember for sure.

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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 09:33:53 am »
SMS pad never lasted.  Everyone that actually played their Master Systems (all 5 of us) used the Sega Control Stick, which is probably the only mainstream right handed joystick ever.


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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 10:01:20 pm »
If it has Star fox, I will buy one.
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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2017, 02:41:31 pm »
If it has Star fox, I will buy one.

Get the pre-order placed - Not only does it have Starfox but also includes the completed unreleased Starfox 2

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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2017, 02:55:26 pm »
Man, that lineup is great. But people will still hack it to load the entire library.

I wonder about that Star Fox 2 release.

Isn't the version floating around the interwebs a leaked beta version that was finished off by hackers?

I wonder if Ninty officially finished the game for this release or they're just using the hacked fix.

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« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2017, 03:13:36 pm »
Company unable to make enough of hot ticket item will totally be able to make enough of 2nd hot ticket item (Fauxclusive)

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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2017, 03:16:19 pm »
Man, that lineup is great. But people will still hack it to load the entire library.

I wonder about that Star Fox 2 release.

Isn't the version floating around the interwebs a leaked beta version that was finished off by hackers?

I wonder if Ninty officially finished the game for this release or they're just using the hacked fix.

Accordng to this article : http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/a_totally_complete_version_of_star_fox_2_really_does_exist

in an interview wth Q-Games boss Dylan Cuthbert,

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In our interview, Cuthbert reveals that a final, totally finished version of Star Fox 2 actually exists - and that he was able to play the game during the development of Star Fox Command:
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« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2017, 03:24:58 pm »
Company unable to make enough of hot ticket item will totally be able to make enough of 2nd hot ticket item (Fauxclusive)

https://www.destructoid.com/company-unable-to-make-enough-of-hot-ticket-item-will-totally-be-able-to-make-enough-of-2nd-hot-ticket-item-fauxclusive--445154.phtml




Can't say I care.  I only need one.

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« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2017, 03:32:56 pm »
Can't say I care.  I only need one.

Hopefully the retail outlets at least can fill their pre-orders !

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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2017, 03:37:05 pm »



Well, if people really want to preorder locally, do it at more than one place.  Then sell the extra(s) at price to someone who couldn't get one.  Best of both worlds.  Or just back out on all the preorders after the first one that worked.

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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2017, 03:59:59 pm »
Can't say I care.  I only need one.

Pretty sure you missed the point, read the article.
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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2017, 04:42:40 pm »
Is someone actually taking pre-orders?

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« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2017, 05:01:54 pm »
Hrm.  Tempting.  I've been pondering ordering a Switch from Amazon UK.  Actually works out less than ordering one in the US.


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« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2017, 07:08:03 pm »
It's not tempting... that's the hideous super famicom styling, not the timeless US snes. 

It might be a good idea to start buying games from the UK though... the pound/euro are weak.     

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« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2017, 11:22:54 pm »
Hey something I noticed on the official website:

http://www.nintendo.com/super-nes-classic

Notice something wrong with that picture?........................  Where do you plug the controllers in???? 

Seriously if you look closely those controller ports on the front don't actually have any holes in them and even if they did, it isn't classic controller shaped.  It mentions compatibility with the classic controllers so my guess is they've made yet another controller related blunder.  The controller ports are in the back, which is profoundly stupid considering how light these mini consoles are. People will be pulling them in the floor, especially if they get cheap and use short cords again. 

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« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2017, 11:45:46 pm »
Yeah notice in every picture they don't show the right side?
Those front ports are only impressed into the plastic, so my assumption is they got some side ports on the right.
As for supporting classic controllers, it's probably some wacky adapter dongle, because I can't imagine how two full snes ports are going to fit on the side like that.

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« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2017, 11:47:06 pm »
Might end up like the Euro-version where the front plate folds down.  ???


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« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2017, 11:56:15 pm »
Oh for crying out loud.  :timebomb:

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« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2017, 01:15:07 am »
Well that's colossally stupid.  I'm all about authenticity, but things have to be updated for function... if that was a transformer toy they'd call the faceplate kibble. 

Also I sure as hell hope that isn't the actual cord length. 

Man this is looking worse and worse.

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« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2017, 09:34:13 am »



Chill, there is no way they're going to release a console with 12" controller cords.  That's a marketing mockup photo.

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« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2017, 01:20:26 pm »
Well that's colossally stupid.  I'm all about authenticity, but things have to be updated for function... if that was a transformer toy they'd call the faceplate kibble. 

Also I sure as hell hope that isn't the actual cord length. 

Man this is looking worse and worse.
Cords are supposed to be 2 feet longer than the nes classic ones

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« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2017, 01:24:12 pm »
Extension cables are $3 from Amazon.  Get over it.


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« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2017, 01:33:44 pm »



Found a more recent pic of the US version.



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« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2017, 03:50:14 pm »

Found a more recent pic of the US version.





Thats more realistic
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« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2017, 09:07:43 pm »
I bleached mine and got most of that out.  Now I don't have a clue how long it'll stay that way, but I'm just sayin'.... not as big a deal as everyone makes it. 

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« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2017, 11:39:35 am »
mine didn't do that yellowing thing. mind you, i keep my stuff in the basement away from sunlight and whatnot.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #74 on: July 01, 2017, 02:01:51 am »
I'm less excited by this functionality, but I'll probably still pick up the SNES mini classic if I can.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2017, 03:17:32 am »
that's.... kinda janky. not even straight.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2017, 01:17:51 pm »
It's not tempting... that's the hideous super famicom styling, not the timeless US snes. 

Really? The majority of people (including myself) actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

However, I do agree with the comments about the folding down front plate. That's a really dumb idea.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2017, 01:34:26 pm »
Really? The majority of people (including myself) actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.
Please post the poll that shows this majority vote data. Kthx

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2017, 01:44:26 pm »
Really? The majority of people who have expressed an opinion on the subject, and then notified me of their opinion, actually prefer the Super Famicon styling. I guess there's no accounting for taste.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2017, 01:59:37 pm »
^Fake news

But seriously, the SFC is just boring looking. Uninspiring af.
I'm with H_C on this one, the SNES is where it's at. Classic. "A majority of people prefer it"  ::)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2017, 02:22:43 pm »
It's like this.  Nostalgia of course plays a huge role... people that grew up with the pal snes or sfc are going to prefer it ... but with that being said. 

The US SNES looks better imho because it has a very unique, timeless shape and it doesn't have the garish "skittles buttons" on the gamepad.  If you look at the sfc it's design is very much a product of it's time period... it screams 90's with those rounded corners and flush, "Star Trek TNG" buttons, which were all the rage on microwaves and car stereos at the time.  Sometimes being dated is what makes a console look cool, like the 2600, but for me at least, 90's styling is kind of hit and miss and for this particular item I think it's a miss. 

Back on topic though that flip down cover for the ports is janky as hell... as I feared.  It means that you'll have to constantly unplug the gamepads when you are done if you want it to display nice.  I'm a damn sucker though so I'll probably end up getting one anyway.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2017, 03:24:35 pm »
It definitely has games that i want that i cant play on my super everdrive. So i do want one, but getting one is going to be a hassle I fear. Now if we can mod it and get it to play the rest of the games I can't play like mega man x2 & x3, doom and whatever else, then we will really be talking.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2017, 03:52:28 pm »
Back on topic though that flip down cover for the ports is janky as hell... as I feared.  It means that you'll have to constantly unplug the gamepads when you are done if you want it to display nice.  I'm a damn sucker though so I'll probably end up getting one anyway.

OR mod it to add a wireless connection on the inside of the unit so you can leave the cover in place !

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2017, 04:12:10 pm »
That's probably possible yeah.  That wireless NES classic controller I ordered is still going strong.  I haven't had to charge it since I bought it either.... super long battery life.  I'm wondering if they sell snes pads. 

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« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2017, 04:20:45 pm »
That's probably possible yeah.  That wireless NES classic controller I ordered is still going strong.  I haven't had to charge it since I bought it either.... super long battery life.  I'm wondering if they sell snes pads.

Would think it's using the same connector cable so something like the Nincade should still work with it also - and since it is a pass through device you could still use the wired controls if you wanted to open the cover.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2017, 11:45:42 pm »
Preorders went live on Walmart's website. Let the feeding frenzy begin!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2017, 11:48:03 pm »
Preorders went live on Walmart's website. Let the feeding frenzy begin!

Just came here to tell everyopne and you beat me to it ! Got my order placed

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2017, 12:07:32 am »
They've still got plenty of preorders, which makes me think Nintendo might have actually delivered on the promise to make more this time.  I had 15 bucks in Walmart gift cards, so hell, I'm in for one. 

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« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2017, 12:23:47 am »
They've still got plenty of preorders, which makes me think Nintendo might have actually delivered on the promise to make more this time.  I had 15 bucks in Walmart gift cards, so hell, I'm in for one.

Looks like it is done ! - Not bad for the first live US presale it actually lasted a bit over 30 minutes - guess the Scalpers didn't have a chance to set up their Bots before the link was live.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #89 on: July 22, 2017, 12:28:27 am »
Walmart usually gets the most though, so it could be a bad sign.  Best Buy will get a smaller amount... Gamestop will probably get a lot but they'll sell it through some b.s. bundle that nobody wants.  Amazon seems to be a crap shot these days.... they get them in, but half the time it's for Prime members only and they sell out in 5 min. 

I also realized that this is the first preorder frenzy that I've gotten since this limited stock stuff started with the Wii.  I just happened to be online and got the notification.  Everything's coming up Millhouse!  :D

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« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2017, 11:14:12 am »
Walmart usually gets the most though, so it could be a bad sign.  Best Buy will get a smaller amount... Gamestop will probably get a lot but they'll sell it through some b.s. bundle that nobody wants.  Amazon seems to be a crap shot these days.... they get them in, but half the time it's for Prime members only and they sell out in 5 min. 

I also realized that this is the first preorder frenzy that I've gotten since this limited stock stuff started with the Wii.  I just happened to be online and got the notification.  Everything's coming up Millhouse!  :D

Depending on how large of a percentage they decided to put up for pre-orders and how many they want to keep for launch day to drive some traffic into the stores. It ssems to have sold out pretty quick but it might be they just put up a few to test how it would go and make sure their site was ready to handle it.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2017, 04:40:15 pm »
Got my pre-order cancellation notice today. Looks like Walmart is canceling all pre-orders across the board.  Several news sites have been posting articles on it.
I'm wondering if they got heavy pressure from Nintendo to pull these back. Wouldn't be surprised.

It's just weird that earlier they canceled only a portion of the preorders, I thought I was in the clear. But everyone's order are now cancelled.   :dunno

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« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2017, 04:43:22 pm »
That's discouraging.

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« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2017, 05:12:19 pm »
Yeah, I figured it was too good to be true. ;)

If you guys haven't received your notice yet, make sure to check your Spam folder. A buddy of mine thought his was secured, but then found the notice in Spam.

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« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2017, 05:34:22 pm »
Got my pre-order cancellation notice today. Looks like Walmart is canceling all pre-orders across the board.  Several news sites have been posting articles on it.
I'm wondering if they got heavy pressure from Nintendo to pull these back. Wouldn't be surprised.

It's just weird that earlier they canceled only a portion of the preorders, I thought I was in the clear. But everyone's order are now cancelled.   :dunno

Still baffles me how they could take a week to decide to cancel them - you'd think it could have been done within an hour of making the mistake and everyone would have understood it was an error - but to keep them live for a week is really kind of puzzling ( and if they do relist pre-orders again before launch would really not make sense since they could have just kept the first ones live.

Only reason for cancelling after a week that makes any sense - would be if NOA has specifically said not to take pre-orders in NA and Walmart was trying to work something out with them after the mistake was made to be able to keep them and NOA would not allow that. :dunno

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2017, 06:13:49 pm »
Perhaps it's a data gathering test to see what kind of numbers they can get on the pre-order? :)

One thing I should mention, even though I received the email, I still have the order listed as -Processing- on my Walmart account page.  They haven't officially canceled it *yet*.

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« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2017, 09:17:21 pm »
Perhaps it's a data gathering test to see what kind of numbers they can get on the pre-order? :)

One thing I should mention, even though I received the email, I still have the order listed as -Processing- on my Walmart account page.  They haven't officially canceled it *yet*.

Same here - and the transaction on my debit card is still On Hold

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« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2017, 10:28:58 pm »
This is some b.s.  These aren't units, they are the promise of units.  So why in the blue hell are they cancelling them?  When they do get units we get the first ones... it's a no-brainer.  This is like cancelling a reservation to dinner a month from now because the chef hasn't ordered the food yet. 

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« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2017, 10:33:46 pm »
I just checked their website again.  My order has now been updated to "cancelled" status. 

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« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2017, 11:44:22 pm »
Yeah same here. *sigh*
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« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2017, 11:52:45 pm »
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« Reply #101 on: July 27, 2017, 12:28:04 am »
This is some b.s.  These aren't units, they are the promise of units.  So why in the blue hell are they cancelling them?  When they do get units we get the first ones... it's a no-brainer.  This is like cancelling a reservation to dinner a month from now because the chef hasn't ordered the food yet.

Might be that NOA has told all retailers in North America not to do pre-orders before launch day - as that is really the only reason I can think of that would make Walmart cancel them all and take 5 days to do it (If they were talking to NOA to see if they could just honor them since it was a mistake to sell them and NOA refused to allow it)

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« Reply #102 on: July 27, 2017, 01:11:34 am »
That's irrelevant.  NOA has no control over pre-orders.  Actual console sales sure (you can't break release date for shipments), but not pre-orders.  I honestly can't think of a single scenario where it makes sense to cancel all the pre-orders.  Some, sure... many, ok that sucks but still sure..... but all??  WTF???

Think about it.  Let's say it went up early.  Ok so when they do have consoles available for preorder the first consoles should be allotted to those that did the early preorder.  If they don't have any left for the real preorder date that's tough because they already promised them to us.  Let's say that they took more preorders than they are supposed to get with their initial shipment.  Ok, still no problem.  You know that initial shipment?  Well they already sold out.  The next shipment.... it goes to fill the remaining preorders and so on.  If they don't get enough shipments THEN they start cancelling.  Of if they want to honor the release date and they sold too many, just look at the timestamp for the preorders and do it first come, first serve, cancelling the remaining ones.  As I said, no logical reason to cancel them all.  That is unless they wanted those consoles to put in some b.s. bundle that nobody wants... you know, like thinkgeek (aka gamestop) just did the other day when they "found" some remaining nes classics. 

I better get a gift card or something out of this because I haven't felt this screwed over from a purchase in a long time. 

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« Reply #103 on: July 27, 2017, 01:21:06 am »
That's irrelevant.  NOA has no control over pre-orders.  Actual console sales sure (you can't break release date for shipments), but not pre-orders. 

Unless NOA threatened to not ship any units to any retailer that sold pre-orders --- then they would definitely have some control over pre-orders !  :dunno

But I agree - they should have just kept the orders and filled them as supply arrived -- even if it meant having fewer/none for release day at the stores.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #104 on: July 27, 2017, 03:53:28 am »
Walmart's really going downhill.  They recently remodeled our local store (which is only a few years old, but whatever) and they "forgot" to do a Nintendo section for the new games department.  Seriously.... all the Nintendo stuff is crammed in the last of 5, count em' 5 Playstation cases.  I would say it's because the playstation stuff is selling well, but they have 5 cases for the xbox one, and we know that isn't selling. 

So brand new games section... it's frikkin huge..... and not a Nintendo sign to be found.  Just 4 switch games, whatever is left of the Wii U stock and a few 3ds games in a case even though the 3ds outsells everything else by a large margin and the switch is currently selling almost as fast as the ps4 did at this point. 

Oh but they put symbols on all the store signs for the illiterate, and are using a very expensive vinyl wrap to turn part of the outside of the store blue so I guess that remodel was well worth the money.  You seriously can't make this stuff up. 

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« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2017, 01:26:55 pm »



They'll be available to people who really want one.  The NES Classic was just available this week via bundles on ThinkGeek.  Really crappy expensive bundles but available nonetheless.

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« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2017, 01:36:24 pm »
So brand new games section... it's frikkin huge..... and not a Nintendo sign to be found.  Just 4 switch games, whatever is left of the Wii U stock and a few 3ds games in a case even though the 3ds outsells everything else by a large margin and the switch is currently selling almost as fast as the ps4 did at this point. 

They may have just figured there was no need for a Nintendo section since there are never any nintendo consoles in stock - so why tie up the shelf space when it sits empty 90% of the time.

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« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2017, 01:49:18 pm »
I went to a big Wal-Mart recently and saw a bunch of Nintendo stuff but the ratio was one shelf of Nintendo for every 5 of PlayStation/Xbox.  Interestingly the Nintendo shelf was stocked.  Botw in stock.  A couple of switch consoles, even old wii games like Mario galaxy 2 (wtf).  Wide variety of stuff but nothing like the shelf space dedicated to other consoles but then again switch is 4 months old so who knows.

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« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2017, 01:59:11 pm »



They'll be available to people who really want one.  The NES Classic was just available this week via bundles on ThinkGeek.  Really crappy expensive bundles but available nonetheless.

Yes you'll note that I mentioned that already.  :)  The thing is, for me at least the MSRP is very much part of the product's features.  If it goes up too much it's no longer the same product.  Like the NES Classic.... at 60 bucks it's priced about right.  At 100 it's a bit harder to justify, but sure I can see it if you really want it.  At $150 +..... LOL nope. 

The snes classic is already pushing it.... costing 20 bucks more even though we know that it's the same damn board with a different shell.  Yes, they are including two controllers, but thinking back they already created these gamepads several years ago for a Japan-only club Nintendo prize.... so r&d costs don't even exist for it.... probably cost them a buck a piece to make. 

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« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2017, 02:19:49 pm »
I'm with H_C on this one, the price point is definitely part of the selling feature for these things. There is no way I'd bother the hassle of tracking one down if it cost more than the current MSRP. And I agree they're pushing their luck with a $20 price hike.

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« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2017, 05:36:57 pm »
To be fair Gamestop is just trying to save their company.  Physical media is never going away, but brick and mortar stores might... especially for something as easy to ship as games.  The problem is they have no clue how to save it and they are grasping at every straw within reach.  Selling over-priced novelty goods definitely isn't the solution, nor is forcing your customers to buy unwanted novelty goods in a bundle with games.  If they were smart, they would try to work out a deal with one of the hardware manufacturers and the publishing companies to allow people to "rent"  games via download... similar to Netflix.  Previous attempts have failed because it's always been some lousy third party company doing it on the pc.....consoles is where the money is at. 

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« Reply #111 on: July 29, 2017, 12:19:40 am »
I go in 2-3 times a year when they put a really good PS4 game on sale for $10.  Do the online pickup thing, never an issue.  Employees very polite and not pushy.  Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- some of the customers, though.  Wow.  I think it's the next stop for the People of Walmart.

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« Reply #112 on: July 29, 2017, 07:42:08 am »
To be fair Gamestop is just trying to save their company.  Physical media is never going away, but brick and mortar stores might... especially for something as easy to ship as games.  The problem is they have no clue how to save it and they are grasping at every straw within reach.  Selling over-priced novelty goods definitely isn't the solution, nor is forcing your customers to buy unwanted novelty goods in a bundle with games.  If they were smart, they would try to work out a deal with one of the hardware manufacturers and the publishing companies to allow people to "rent"  games via download... similar to Netflix.  Previous attempts have failed because it's always been some lousy third party company doing it on the pc.....consoles is where the money is at.
But most of that novelty stuff ends up in the clearance bin. I got some mugs and plush things for less than 3 bucks each. So apparently nobody is buying the over priced stuff.

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« Reply #113 on: July 29, 2017, 11:01:21 am »
I think the main problem with Gamestop is they have way too many locations in some areas -- Here we have 9 stores within 6.5 miles of my house and a few others within 15 miles - and it's not that big of a city (approx 640,000 population) and there is no way there are that many people buying used games in enough quantity to keep that many running. They'll pretty much let a new franchisee open in a saturated market because they want the fees and don't really think about what it does to the existing franchisees or for that new franchisee.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #114 on: July 29, 2017, 12:05:36 pm »
In the end they will survive online if Amazon doesnt kill that too. But there are too many stores. I have 2 right across the street from each other. So i have to go to both to get clearance crap.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #115 on: August 22, 2017, 12:34:05 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #116 on: August 22, 2017, 01:59:17 pm »
Amazon supposedly let out pre-orders at 1am last night, but I looked at the listing.... if it is indeed amazon then they need to fire whoever put it up because English clearly isn't their first language and they didn't even post a picture. 

That being said, the pre-orders were supposed to start "sometime in August"  Well it's the 22nd... somebody better get their butts in gear.  My guess is it might be the 28th, which would make it roughly 30 days from the product release date... so the scalpers can put it straight on ebay.  :(

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #117 on: August 22, 2017, 02:16:15 pm »
Amazon supposedly let out pre-orders at 1am last night, but I looked at the listing.... if it is indeed amazon then they need to fire whoever put it up because English clearly isn't their first language and they didn't even post a picture. 

That being said, the pre-orders were supposed to start "sometime in August"  Well it's the 22nd... somebody better get their butts in gear.  My guess is it might be the 28th, which would make it roughly 30 days from the product release date... so the scalpers can put it straight on ebay.  :(
Best Buy had preorders that went up last night and sold out quickly. Walmart and Target had preorders around 1 PM EST and sold out within a minute.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #118 on: August 22, 2017, 02:31:05 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.
Source?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #119 on: August 22, 2017, 03:22:02 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.
Source?

Kotaku.   :lol

"While that leaked version wasn’t quite 100 percent finished, the version I played on SNES Classic didn’t seem to differ too much, if at all. "

That's "please don't strip my press credentials" code for "exactly the same."

https://kotaku.com/we-played-snes-classic-and-it-has-rewind-now-1798161324


Hopefully hackers are able to strip out this updated emulator and port it over to the NES Classic.  I don't care about rewind, but those overlays covering up the black would be nice.  One of the few oversights on the NES Classic....






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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #120 on: August 22, 2017, 03:26:33 pm »
Let's Players are going to eat those overlays up.  As soon as it's hacked you'll be able to put up your own little overlay and have hdmi out on a tiny little pre-configured box.  Add el-gato and you are good to go. 

This is b.s.  They went on sale last night approx. 15 min after I went to bed and the best buy and target stuff went on sale immediately after I ate lunch and went out for the day. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #121 on: August 22, 2017, 03:30:31 pm »
Gamestop's website is currently down with a message that they'll be back soon.  So more preorders might be inbound (or currently in progress and they crashed the site).

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #122 on: August 22, 2017, 03:38:27 pm »
Gamestop's website is currently down with a message that they'll be back soon.  So more preorders might be inbound (or currently in progress and they crashed the site).

They took it down and are only doing in store pre-orders (but only about 6 - 12 per store - so hard to get to  a store in time.) figure they want the in store traffic and the pre-order sales last more than a minute that way !

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #123 on: August 22, 2017, 03:48:47 pm »
So, Kotaku says it's the same Star Fox 2 ROM that we already have.  Meh.
Source?

Kotaku.   [emoji38]

"While that leaked version wasn’t quite 100 percent finished, the version I played on SNES Classic didn’t seem to differ too much, if at all. "

That's "please don't strip my press credentials" code for "exactly the same."

https://kotaku.com/we-played-snes-classic-and-it-has-rewind-now-1798161324


Hopefully hackers are able to strip out this updated emulator and port it over to the NES Classic.  I don't care about rewind, but those overlays covering up the black would be nice.  One of the few oversights on the NES Classic....
If that's really the untouched leaked ROM, then that's a dick move from Nintendo. Thanks for the source reference!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #124 on: August 22, 2017, 03:55:42 pm »
Gamestop's website is currently down with a message that they'll be back soon.  So more preorders might be inbound (or currently in progress and they crashed the site).

All the gamestops in a 20 mile radius are sold out, in person pre-orders only none allowed over the phone.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #125 on: August 25, 2017, 06:59:06 pm »
Walmart had a run of pre-orders today at 3pm (PST) on their website. It was gone in about 4 minutes.  Anyone get in on one?




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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2017, 08:57:52 am »
Nintendo must really hate it's fans. This fake shortage is ridiculous.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2017, 10:44:47 am »
Walmart had a run of pre-orders today at 3pm (PST) on their website. It was gone in about 4 minutes.  Anyone get in on one?

I've given up even trying -- the bots have too much of an advantage since the sites take so long to refresh pages or time out on them while the bots skip past them and by the time you get to the order verification screen all of them are gone and the system is removed from your cart !!  I'll also wait to see if they actually do any restocks rather than fight the crowds on launch - If I don't get one there are plenty of ways to still play the games so not going to stress over it.

Figure if I don't ever find one then I might wind up trading someone for the extra NES mini I have.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #128 on: August 26, 2017, 01:26:40 pm »
It's exactly the same situation here in the UK. Last night I checked Argos' website and they said they were now taking SNES Classic pre-orders in store (but not online).

Great I thought. So I printed out the web page and took it to my local branch to place my order early this morning. The cashier checked the details and took my name and address. I was just about to give her my card details when a message flashed up on her screen saying that none were actually available.....

Frankly, I'm getting pissed off now, and I'm very close to giving up. I can't believe I've wasted half a day of my life on this nonsense already.

The NES Classic debacle could (just about) be put down to incompetence. But this repeat performance with the SNES Classic must surely be deliberate. No one can be that incompetent. Why do they even bother with pre-orders when they only seem to drip feed a few dozen units onto the market at a time.

I'll probably end up investing a bit more time and money on my Raspberry Pi instead. Unfortunately, the NesPi cases that I've had my eye on are also out of stock.....
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #129 on: August 26, 2017, 01:31:21 pm »
I think you guys forget that every new tech product worth getting excited about instantly runs out of pre-orders as well.  Pre-orders aren't an indication of available stock.....we won't know how scare the thing is until it's actually released. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #130 on: August 26, 2017, 01:55:01 pm »
Why couldnt nintendo just sell directly from their website. Post some pre orders estimate sales and manufacture acordingly cut out all the middle men aside from shipping. Or would that make too much sense?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #131 on: August 26, 2017, 04:09:29 pm »
Well they could... but scalpers would gobble them up the instant they posted them just like now.  Pre-orders are supposed to be only a fraction of total stock so they can actually get the units into stores as having the product in a brick and mortar is a good form of advertising.  Scalpers are a bit lazy, so you'll actually have a shot at getting one if they are in stores.   Also I'm sure that Nintendo is obligated to sell their products to retailers so that said retailers will continue to carry their games.   

Nintendo has bungled it in the past though, so who knows.  I just take extreme offense at the notion that these shortages are intentional.  No business will withhold a product that people want to buy as (duh) they lose profit that way.  Nintendo's main problem is they are a global company and yet all the important marketing and production decisions are still made almost exclusively in Japan.  They keep making conservative batches of products because they honestly don't have a clue how well a product will do outside of their native country.  If the US and the UK were allowed to make their own orders of a new product I think this problem would go away.  Then again Sega went the direction of autonomous branches of their company and some regions bungled it so bad it ran them out of the hardware business. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #132 on: August 26, 2017, 04:52:36 pm »
I just take extreme offense at the notion that these shortages are intentional.

Seriously? You're taking "extreme offense" on behalf of Nintendo, a huge multinational company that is more than capable of looking after itself? Lol, you really are a fanboy.  ;D
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #133 on: August 26, 2017, 05:09:10 pm »
I'll probably end up investing a bit more time and money on my Raspberry Pi instead. Unfortunately, the NesPi cases that I've had my eye on are also out of stock.....

I'm doing the same - have had several people asking about building a retropie setup for a while so when I saw the Nespi case decided it might be time to get them built for Xmas this year - ordered one from Amazon for the $20 to see what they actually looked like and then order the others but then the youtube reviews hit and they all sold out before I could order more !

So I finally just used Alibaba to order 10 of them on the 1st of the month - they were also out but said they'd get more in 3 weeks if I could wait - so ordered them and they just got shipped by DHL this morning. ( they had also restocked about 1 week ago on Amazon but quickly sold out the restock also ! ) Paid $176.90 including the shipping and Paypal 5% fee - so it worked out a bit cheaper than the $20 Amazon price. - There are a couple of the companies that will sell single units but I think it ends up around $30 because of the shipping for a single unit being higher - but never hurts to send them a message and ask what the total cost would be that way.

THey are a really well designed case and it makes building a setup simple (esp. if building multiples as you can just clone the sd card and setup inside the case takes about 2 minutes and your set.)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #134 on: August 26, 2017, 06:15:16 pm »
I'm already anticipating flashing a readily available Famicom Mini, or Super Famicom Mini.  I'm not going through all that parking lot camping BS again.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2017, 09:45:02 pm »
Yeah. Corporations would never short product to build anticipation. ::)
Disney does it all the time. They release titles for a limited time, and then put them in the "vault". Then they release them again later.

Nintendo yanked production prematurely on a hugely popular product with the NES mini. Now they are jerking you around again. Nintendo hates you.

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« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2017, 11:00:25 pm »
I don't know if you are stupid Mike or what, and I don't like using that term so I apologize if it offends you, but you know what Forest Gump said. 

Let me spell it out for you. 

If a company creates an artificial shortage to ramp up demand, they have to later actually release more of the units so that they'll sell some, and you know, make money.  Nintendo only made around 2 million NES Classics.  Experts estimate that they could have sold 5 to 10 million easy, possibly much more.  If they did it intentionally they sure are stupid as they missed out in at least 3 million more units in sales. 

It's been well documented that NES Classics were never meant to be a full time product, Nintendo thought the demand would be extremely low, and they had various production issues (chip shortages, ect.) when they wanted to ramp up production.  They ended the line much later than intended and the plan (apparently) was to release the snes classic for this holiday season. 

Disney doesn't create artificial shortages, they create timed releases... that's a huge difference.  When Aladdin "comes out of the vault" I guarantee you that anyone who wants a copy can get one at the standard retail price during that sales window no problem because, again, companies like to make money.  The NES Classic and SNES Classic were also meant to be timed releases, but with the NES at least, they greatly underestimated demand. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #137 on: August 27, 2017, 12:08:31 am »
I don't know if you are stupid Mike or what, and I don't like using that term so I apologize if it offends you, but you know what Forest Gump said.   
Whoa whoa. I don't think I've seen Howard call anyone flat out stupid before. Things ok in your life H_C?

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« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2017, 02:21:04 am »
Yeah. It has been nice talking to you Howard. You and Ark have both called me stupid now. Maybe this isn't the right forum for me. I don't know how someone would not be offended by being called stupid. Apologizing for offending someone and then insulting them anyway is pretty sad.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #139 on: August 27, 2017, 07:31:48 am »
I don't know if you are stupid Mike or what, and I don't like using that term so I apologize if it offends you, but you know what Forest Gump said. 

Let me spell it out for you. 

If a company creates an artificial shortage to ramp up demand, they have to later actually release more of the units so that they'll sell some, and you know, make money.  Nintendo only made around 2 million NES Classics.  Experts estimate that they could have sold 5 to 10 million easy, possibly much more.  If they did it intentionally they sure are stupid as they missed out in at least 3 million more units in sales. 

It's been well documented that NES Classics were never meant to be a full time product, Nintendo thought the demand would be extremely low, and they had various production issues (chip shortages, ect.) when they wanted to ramp up production.  They ended the line much later than intended and the plan (apparently) was to release the snes classic for this holiday season. 

Disney doesn't create artificial shortages, they create timed releases... that's a huge difference.  When Aladdin "comes out of the vault" I guarantee you that anyone who wants a copy can get one at the standard retail price during that sales window no problem because, again, companies like to make money.  The NES Classic and SNES Classic were also meant to be timed releases, but with the NES at least, they greatly underestimated demand.

Howard, you've inadvertently helped to make Mike's point for him. Timed releases (if we assume that's Nintendo's strategy) are just another means of creating an artificial shortage. The fact that highly motivated customers are (at least in the case of Disney) able to buy the product within the sales window is neither here nor there. It's still a form of market manipulation.

More importantly, you need to relax. This is just a silly hobby. The artificial scarcity of the NES/SNES Minis really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. OK, some of us here (including myself) are acting like it's a really important issue, but deep down we all know that it isn't.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #140 on: August 27, 2017, 09:26:53 am »
Gamestop's website is currently down with a message that they'll be back soon.  So more preorders might be inbound (or currently in progress and they crashed the site).

All the gamestops in a 20 mile radius are sold out, in person pre-orders only none allowed over the phone.

Wait, so they force you to leave your house and go out in public?
Diabolical! ;D

Also, 500 game mini NES systems with wired controllers are popping up on ebay from china for $35 to $40 shipped.
looks like they only have AV output though.
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« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2017, 12:00:35 pm »
Catch up, nitrogen, there are 1:1 clones for $50 now

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« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2017, 12:40:54 pm »
Catch up, nitrogen, there are 1:1 clones for $50 now

Not quite 1:1 clones -- They use a different chipset and different emulator software and are not moddable to add games - so you only get the original 30 games but do look the same.

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« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2017, 05:25:07 pm »
Catch up, nitrogen, there are 1:1 clones for $50 now

I'm so far out of the loop on this stuff....

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2017, 07:08:10 pm »
Yeah. It has been nice talking to you Howard. You and Ark have both called me stupid now. Maybe this isn't the right forum for me. I don't know how someone would not be offended by being called stupid. Apologizing for offending someone and then insulting them anyway is pretty sad.

Of course this is the right forum for you, brother. It's just this place is so dead now, people got to get passionate about SOMETHING.

Maybe when people start building innovative arcade projects again, we'll have better conversations...
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« Reply #145 on: August 28, 2017, 10:49:01 am »
Yeah. It has been nice talking to you Howard. You and Ark have both called me stupid now. Maybe this isn't the right forum for me. I don't know how someone would not be offended by being called stupid. Apologizing for offending someone and then insulting them anyway is pretty sad.

Of course this is the right forum for you, brother. It's just this place is so dead now, people got to get passionate about SOMETHING.

Maybe when people start building innovative arcade projects again, we'll have better conversations...

What?  Bartops don't tickle your fancy?

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« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2017, 01:38:09 pm »
Bartops were over 4-5 years ago.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2017, 05:10:39 pm »
Sadly you cant re-invent the wheel so there will be less and less new and exciting ideas.

Until some new gadget or whatever hits the market of course!

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2017, 06:25:31 pm »
Off topic: I could care less about reinventing the wheel, and rather people just build their own, well designed version of the wheel.  Too many projects here now are either bartops derived from lokensen's design from 5+ years ago, or some derivative of Chance's Flynn cab, (which is also derivative of other cabinets before him). I check out of a project whenever I see that ridiculous CP design.

IMO markc74's The Invaders project has the freshest design as of late, and I would love to see BYOAC come back to this level of thought.

There are too many cop-out projects, and a severe lack of art imagination lately. I also check out when I see artwork opinion threads asking for critique on a collage of photochopped multi-styled character art. That, and anything with -CADE in the title.

On topic:  I wonder how quickly the SNES Classic will be hacked to load up more games onto it -- we gotta get Chrono Trigger onto this thing somehow.  Also how long will it take for someone to rip the Starfox 2 official version off of it.  I need to update my repro cart...

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2017, 08:14:50 pm »
Eh my mame cab has been in an unplayble state for over 6 months.  I went to update the software, but mame is such a colossal pain in the ass to deal with anymore in terms of rom management I gave up halfway through. 

People that are going to make really good cabs, with some exceptions of course, are guys like us who have been doing it for several years now.  The only problem is that motivation wears out real quick after you learn what works and what doesn't as well as what you like and what you don't like. 

I would like to throw out my old mk2 style cab and design a candy-style cab.  The reason is simply that form, which is the fun part of the hobby, really takes a backseat to function once you learn that the novelty of form wears off real quick.  I've had arcade and arcade style cabinets in my home for nearly 20 years now..... so I'm over that.   What I need is something that plays well and doesn't take up a lot of room. 

So you've got noobs that don't know what they are doing and old timers like me, that either don't care about making something flashy or have moved on to collecting real cabinets, ect. 

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« Reply #150 on: August 29, 2017, 10:11:58 am »
What I need is something that plays well and doesn't take up a lot of room. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #151 on: August 29, 2017, 12:21:32 pm »
What I need is something that plays well and doesn't take up a lot of room. 

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This is what I play on 99% of my playing time.  It doesn't handle MK2 well but otherwise I'm content with it.

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« Reply #152 on: August 29, 2017, 12:26:02 pm »
Eh I still want arcade controls. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #153 on: August 29, 2017, 12:27:48 pm »
This is what I play on 99% of my playing time.  It doesn't handle MK2 well but otherwise I'm content with it.
I have the MKII from Shaolin Monks added to the dashboard menu when I need to scratch that itch.

Eh I still want arcade controls.
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« Reply #154 on: August 29, 2017, 12:34:05 pm »
Well if you do that then you need the room to store arcade sticks.  Since that takes up a lot of room I might as well go back to the pc setup with a proper cabinet shell.  I might go ahead and fix the old mame cab this weekend. 

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« Reply #155 on: August 29, 2017, 12:38:47 pm »
I have the MKII from Shaolin Monks added to the dashboard menu when I need to scratch that itch.


Go on.....  Is that the weird version in Coin Ops or something else?


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #156 on: August 29, 2017, 09:04:27 pm »
Well if you do that then you need the room to store arcade sticks. 

meh, a single stick can sit right on topof the xbox /shrug

I have the MKII from Shaolin Monks added to the dashboard menu when I need to scratch that itch.


Go on.....  Is that the weird version in Coin Ops or something else?

It wasnt part of my coinops but its the emulated MKII that is "hidden" in Shaolin Monks.  If yours has sound and doesnt stutter, its likely the same thing.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #157 on: September 12, 2017, 03:37:00 pm »
A quick heads up for anyone in the UK. The latest edition of RetroGamer magazine comes bundled with a special one-off edition of Super Play magazine.

https://www.retrogamer.net/blog_post/super-play-returns-with-retro-gamer-172-2/

Super Play was apparently a dedicated Super Nintendo magazine that was published for a few years in the nineties. The new one-off edition is dedicated to the SNES Mini, and includes reviews of all the 21 games that are included with the system.

I bought a copy earlier today, and I have to say it's pretty damn good.
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« Reply #158 on: September 12, 2017, 04:36:05 pm »
It wasnt part of my coinops but its the emulated MKII that is "hidden" in Shaolin Monks.  If yours has sound and doesnt stutter, its likely the same thing.

So the one in CoinOps has a very simplistic menu that lets you pick MK2 or MK3.  Within MK2, there's an option menu to reconfigure controls but the buttons don't do anything. 

The buttons on my panel map out like this:

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It's a fairly good port otherwise.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #159 on: September 26, 2017, 11:00:06 pm »
So, kernel has been dumped.  Virtually the same hardware, and the storage limitations remain.

Will probably still buy.

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« Reply #160 on: September 26, 2017, 11:46:58 pm »
From what I’ve read it’s practically the same hardware. I’m betting the same storage space too, which means we’ll have to be choosy with the amount of games we can copy to it.

 So far, he’s the list I’m going to try to get on this thing.  I need more RPG's, but I haven't given them much thought:

Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
U.N Squadron
TMNT Tournament Fighters
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FF 5 and 6
Final Fight 1, 2 and 3. (3 is so good!)
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Super R-type (I don't know why they didn't add this, it was a launch title!)
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« Reply #161 on: September 27, 2017, 12:01:55 am »
Since the space is limited, a smart person would just put that games on there that can't be ran on a flash cart and are difficult to emulate properly.  You've got Yoshi's island and the two Star Foxes on there already, just add the other FX games and the handful of special chip games that aren't already on there and you are done. 

I'm gonna try for one Friday, but I'm not too hopeful. 

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« Reply #162 on: September 27, 2017, 04:18:49 pm »
Anyone read any honest reviews of this thing yet?  Is so, can you please link 'em?

Everything I've read so far seems like shill-paid or half-assed reviews.

Since the space is limited, a smart person would just put that games on there that can't be ran on a flash cart and are difficult to emulate properly.  You've got Yoshi's island and the two Star Foxes on there already, just add the other FX games and the handful of special chip games that aren't already on there and you are done. 
The only other FX games worth it are Stunt Race FX, and maybe Vortex (questionable)? Though Stunt Race is only really playable if it's overclocked.
The classic already has Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars out of the SA-1 games that are worth the time. I guess the Kirby games are worth it.
Other than that there's Star Ocean (S-DD1), which is playable on flashcart now through a hack conversion.

3 or 4 decent titles that aren't playable on a flashcart won't fill up the storage, so might as well fill the rest of the space with the bangers.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #163 on: September 27, 2017, 04:29:48 pm »
From what I’ve read it’s practically the same hardware. I’m betting the same storage space too, which means we’ll have to be choosy with the amount of games we can copy to it.

Motherboard is virtually identical.  Same 512MB storage chip, so about 300MB available.  Can't compress the ROMs on the native emulation...

But if we can get both emulations going, you could probably do a complete NES ROM set and quite a few SNES....


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« Reply #164 on: September 27, 2017, 08:43:38 pm »
Anyone read any honest reviews of this thing yet?  Is so, can you please link 'em?

Everything I've read so far seems like shill-paid or half-assed reviews.


What is there to review?  It's the nes classic, only now snes.  It has virtually the same interface only now with a (useless imho) rewind function and a few nifty borders.  It's Nintendo so I'm sure the emulation is good.  The only thing I've noticed of note in videos is the fact that star fox looks slighty better to me.... maybe the 3d is de-interlaced? 

The cords are 5 feet long, which is adequate, but a tad bit short. 

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« Reply #165 on: September 27, 2017, 11:08:22 pm »
Star Fox 2 has been dumped but nobody will be the first to post it.  I imagine we'll all be playing it by Sunday.....

Others have successfully flashed th SNES kernel onto the NES.  So worst case I'm buying another Famicom.


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« Reply #166 on: September 27, 2017, 11:36:54 pm »
Well I never was able to pick up the NES classic, so I was looking for a review that more standalone.

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« Reply #167 on: September 28, 2017, 12:23:25 am »
Like me a pbj have been saying all along, it's the most painless way to play emulated games on the tv.  The interface is pretty great, the emulation is good, it boots up and shuts down quicker than anything out there, ect.  And if you don't like the emulation, ect it's been hacked so run something else on it.  The hacks are integrated pretty well... it doesn't feel butchered if you apply them.   

The only complaint I've been able to come up with, and it's a stretch, is that if you are using save states extensively (saving every few minutes in a game ect.) and you don't pay attention to what you are doing it's fairly easy to accidentally load up an older save when in the save menu. Also the thing about having to press the reset button is a pain, but a quick re-flash of the kernel will allow you to map it to a key combo on the gamepad. 

Hey if we can't get ahold of them, somebody make a 3d model of a snes case for the nes/famicom classic and I'll print us out a few.  I've been ashamed of my initial results, but I'm finally getting pretty good at this 3d printing business.  The trick seems to be figuring out the best way to lay out the part on the bed to avoid a lot of hard to remove supports.

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« Reply #168 on: September 28, 2017, 09:59:38 am »
So I've got a no questions asked, "if you see one, buy it, I'll pay you back" arrangement with a couple of friends....

Maybe we'll get luckier this round.


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« Reply #169 on: September 28, 2017, 10:46:37 pm »
Well gentlemen... checking Walmart via brickseek, it appears that all the Walmarts around here are getting 20-50 snes classics.  The Target stores that show up on brickseek have 30-50 for sale in the morning.  So the question is, should I go out and try to get one in an hour like a lunatic or chill and hope they still have some in the morning. 

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« Reply #170 on: September 28, 2017, 11:54:00 pm »
Go get one

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« Reply #171 on: September 29, 2017, 12:20:46 am »
...and post some pictures of the madness.

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« Reply #172 on: September 29, 2017, 12:34:41 am »
I got an email from Best Buy earlier that my preorder is in the mail. Unfortunately, it won't show up until next week. My coworker got a preorder in a few seconds after I did, but his email was that there was an inventory issue and his isn't being shipped out yet.

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« Reply #173 on: September 29, 2017, 12:51:32 am »
Well I went.  About 20 people in line, 22 snes's so everybody got one.  A very motley crew of a line.  Everybody looked like me, it was crazy.  Talked to some old school fanboys and a uber-gamer that also apparently runs all the strip clubs in town.  A finer bunch of neck-beards and hipsters you'll never meet.  Overall pleasant experience, would stand in line again.  9 out of 10

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« Reply #174 on: September 29, 2017, 05:06:44 am »
From a UK perspective, it seems to me Nintendo have made as much of a mess of this as with the mini NES. Pre-orders gone as soon as they become available, nothing available on the day online or in store. No word on further stock/dates.

I know it is all deliberate - hold back stock to keep interest up and discussions & articles on it do the marketing for them - but isn't that all a bit tired and dated now? All it does is encourage people not interested in the console to buy it anyway and sell it on fleaBay for inflated prices.

I'd love that to fail, just once, because a company has plenty of stock leaving the 2nd hand market prices to crash. If people bought a console and then couldn't sell it for the retail price they'd not do it next time and those who wanted the console next time would get them (i.e. I'd have a chance on the N64 classic mini!)

Preaching to the converted I know, but it's so infuriating. I don't think I'll bother (I've got a SNES anyway, just not all the games I'd want and the fleaBay market for them is over-inflated too!). So, Nintendo, you've lost at least one sale because of your outdated supply and marketing strategy. Oh, and I won't be buying a Switch either now. So Ner!

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« Reply #175 on: September 29, 2017, 09:04:02 am »
Brickseek wasn't confirming any stock at the Astrodome Target, but it's on my way in anyway so why not. 

Yeah, 50+ people in line at 7:45am.  Didn't even get out of my car.

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« Reply #176 on: September 29, 2017, 09:44:33 am »
Star Fox 2 ROM runs fine on SNES9X.

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« Reply #177 on: September 29, 2017, 11:29:33 am »
I went to Target a 10am - had a brain fart and forgot they open at 8am.  Dude in electronics said they had a dozen available in the morning with about 8 people waiting for them.  Gamestop had a dozen also but you had to get a ticket to get one.

I am pretty sure these are going to be easier to come by than the nes classic - but we will see. 

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« Reply #178 on: September 29, 2017, 12:36:05 pm »
Brickseek wasn't confirming any stock at the Astrodome Target, but it's on my way in anyway so why not. 

Yeah, 50+ people in line at 7:45am.  Didn't even get out of my car.

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You should have went.  Most larger cities got 200+ per store.

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« Reply #179 on: September 29, 2017, 01:14:37 pm »
both walk in SNES minis were sold at the gamestop closest to my work. Im sure by the time I get off work they will be sold out everywhere. If someone can find another I'll pay for it plus shipping plus a few thank you dollars.
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« Reply #180 on: September 29, 2017, 01:32:12 pm »
I'm down that way in a couple hours so I'll check for ya man, but this late I doubt they'll still have any.  Word on the street is you shouldn't even bother with gamestop and the other stores because they got extremely limited quantities.  For whatever reason Walmart seems to be getting the big shipments.  I've heard some big numbers from target as well. 

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« Reply #181 on: September 29, 2017, 01:44:51 pm »
Target close to my house had 72 of them, but no way in hell was I driving to the intersection of two interstates during morning rush hour.

Ah well, if Nintendo keeps pumping out stock like this these things are going to be old news in a week.

I got bored of Star Fox 2 in 5 minutes.  I know programmers love telling everyone how the company "pulled the plug when it was almost ready, man!" but I've yet to play a game that wasn't unreleased for good reason....

 



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« Reply #182 on: September 29, 2017, 02:15:18 pm »
Went to a walmart and the lady said they didn't get their shipment yet but everyone  was asking for it.  They had a lot of promotional material up for it.  It was close to.time target was opening so I headed there.  Small line was about 30th person.  Everyone in line got a unit and it seemed no supply issues.  Some people in the target line were there since 4 am.  Feel bad for them because I got the extra sleep.and a unit.  Won't get around to playing it for a few days.  I'm guessing nes mini extension cables will work. 

I want the 8bitdo snes controller.  Got a cheap receiver on prime day(I bought on the assumption it would be same.hardware as nes) So will pick up the controller when it goes on sale.

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« Reply #183 on: September 29, 2017, 02:25:12 pm »
I know programmers love telling everyone how the company "pulled the plug when it was almost ready, man!" but I've yet to play a game that wasn't unreleased for good reason....

actually in this instance, the Nintendo 64 was well on it's way out the door and set to be released in the following quarter. They would have had to eat the bill for a bunch of brand new more powerful FX chips to build carts for the SNES... essentially for a system that would VERY soon be replaced with a much more powerful system.

It came to be at the wrong time is all... had it been a half year earlier, it probably would have shipped.

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« Reply #184 on: September 29, 2017, 02:38:24 pm »
You've got to remember that most people are looking through rose-colored glasses when they think of star fox.  At the time, the original was ground breaking, but now it's kind of crap with it's digital controls and bad frame rate.  Star Fox 2 is very similar in that regard.... keeping it in context for a 3d game released in 1996 on the snes it's pretty good, but it hasn't aged well.  Star Fox 64 is the really good version of Star Fox. 

So I fired it up for a few minutes (all the time I had).  Pretty much what you would expect except for the screen.  For whatever reason the games don't fill the screen.... there is a slight border on the top and bottom of the games.  It's even worse in Star Fox where it's a letterboxed game.  It's not a huge border, but I hope the hackers can fix it.  Two of the bezels are pretty neat.... they use the colors on the screen to tint the bezel creating a poor man's ambi-light.  One is just a simple glow instead of graphics and I kind of like it.  The rewind function.... is there.... not super impressive. 

I think for now I'm back on the 2ds playing Samus Returns until the hackers get ahold of this bad boy. 

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« Reply #185 on: September 29, 2017, 04:01:23 pm »
Star Fox 2 is growing on me.  Pretty neat to attack a ship, fly inside it, turn into a mech, and stomp around. 

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« Reply #186 on: September 29, 2017, 04:21:04 pm »
I heard that the official release has the lock-on targeting feature removed. Is this true? 

In the leaked rom you could lock onto the enemy ship during those little mini-skirmishes.

Overall I like the game. The only thing I don't like about Starfox 2 is that it's way too easy. If the lock-on is removed this would help make it more difficult.

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« Reply #187 on: September 29, 2017, 04:23:14 pm »
I'm down that way in a couple hours so I'll check for ya man, but this late I doubt they'll still have any.  Word on the street is you shouldn't even bother with gamestop and the other stores because they got extremely limited quantities.  For whatever reason Walmart seems to be getting the big shipments.  I've heard some big numbers from target as well.

BEst Buy's around here got good numbers also -- They sent an E-mail yesterday saying they'd hand out tickets at 7am. - was up at 6:30 so went over to see the line - had about 45 in line so I went ahead and waited -- This store decided to do it their way (rather than the way corporate told them to !!)  and waited to hand out tickets till 9 am. and you had to be in line at 10 when the store opened rather than having to come back by 1pm. - but at least they had 100+ units, so all 80 or so that arrived before opening got 1. Would have been simpler if they had passed out the tickets like they were supposed at 7 and let us come back before 1pm. to pick it up - but can't complain too much. ( though a few that had to be at work at 8:30 and had to leave probably will !   :angry: )

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« Reply #188 on: September 29, 2017, 05:21:08 pm »
I think for now I'm back on the 2ds playing Samus Returns until the hackers get ahold of this bad boy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/72opgz/just_confirmed_that_hakchi2_can_dumpwrite_the/

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« Reply #189 on: September 29, 2017, 09:56:56 pm »
I think for now I'm back on the 2ds playing Samus Returns until the hackers get ahold of this bad boy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmods/comments/72opgz/just_confirmed_that_hakchi2_can_dumpwrite_the/

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Disconnect from the present, and
Go back to the nineties.

Yeah I already knew about that.  I mean some actual mods like mapping the home key, adding roms, ect....

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« Reply #190 on: September 29, 2017, 10:17:35 pm »
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« Reply #191 on: September 29, 2017, 11:38:29 pm »
I wish the hidden message was a haiku. :lol

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« Reply #192 on: September 29, 2017, 11:41:53 pm »
For whatever reason the games don't fill the screen.... there is a slight border on the top and bottom of the games.
Standard trick of that era to lower the rendered resolution and get the framerates up.  If you were a 386 owner, you played Doom in a tiny window too, unlike those rich kid 486 owners who got to play full screen.

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« Reply #193 on: September 30, 2017, 12:04:30 am »
Nah man, snes games fill the screen, they just don't on the snes classic.  Well except for the aforementioned star fox games. 

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« Reply #194 on: September 30, 2017, 11:20:27 am »
So as was expected the NES and SNES hardware are pretty much identical -- and can even be swapped out with each other - so you could pull the SNES board and put it into the NES case if you wanted !

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« Reply #195 on: September 30, 2017, 11:40:47 am »
From a UK perspective, it seems to me Nintendo have made as much of a mess of this as with the mini NES. Pre-orders gone as soon as they become available, nothing available on the day online or in store. No word on further stock/dates.

I know it is all deliberate - hold back stock to keep interest up and discussions & articles on it do the marketing for them - but isn't that all a bit tired and dated now? All it does is encourage people not interested in the console to buy it anyway and sell it on fleaBay for inflated prices.

I'd love that to fail, just once, because a company has plenty of stock leaving the 2nd hand market prices to crash. If people bought a console and then couldn't sell it for the retail price they'd not do it next time and those who wanted the console next time would get them (i.e. I'd have a chance on the N64 classic mini!)

Preaching to the converted I know, but it's so infuriating. I don't think I'll bother (I've got a SNES anyway, just not all the games I'd want and the fleaBay market for them is over-inflated too!). So, Nintendo, you've lost at least one sale because of your outdated supply and marketing strategy. Oh, and I won't be buying a Switch either now. So Ner!

Indeed. It's still early days. But so far, it's been as much of a debacle as the NES Classic launch.

One thing's for sure, I won't be paying a penny above the recommended retail price. If the fanboys want to pay crazy prices to the scalpers to get hold of one, then good luck to them. But personally, I think that even at the standard £70, the SNES Classic is a little overpriced for what it is.
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« Reply #196 on: September 30, 2017, 11:46:20 am »
Pretty much what you would expect except for the screen.  For whatever reason the games don't fill the screen.... there is a slight border on the top and bottom of the games.

Yeah, I noticed that when I watched one of the online reviews. I assumed it was a "feature" that could be switched off, but apparently not. It's not quite a deal-breaker, but annoying nevertheless.

I wonder whether the NES Classic also had small borders above and below the game, but no one noticed because the borders are black.
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« Reply #197 on: September 30, 2017, 12:09:22 pm »
Nes Classic has flicker at the bottom of the screen because programmers used that area of the image as temporary storage.  We never noticed because it was off the screen on a crt.  This version is probably overlaying a border on the game to hide this.


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« Reply #198 on: September 30, 2017, 03:53:19 pm »
Yeah but that doesn't make any sense either.  They could just enlarge the screen by 5% or so to get rid of that. 

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« Reply #199 on: October 04, 2017, 06:52:05 am »
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZobb2FAFiu/

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« Reply #200 on: October 04, 2017, 07:53:25 am »
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZobb2FAFiu/

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Now can someone load doom on it and confirm other super fx games do work? Also curious about megaman x2 and x3
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« Reply #202 on: October 04, 2017, 12:14:17 pm »
Thomas:  It looks like the snes classic is using the same emulator the VC does.  X2 and X3 are already confirmed to work and most likely everything else will work as well.  This is why I bought the thing.... as a supplement to my super everdrive.  Who the hell am I kidding though... this thing is waaay more convenient than using my snes and all the gear required to do rgb out. 

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« Reply #203 on: October 04, 2017, 01:28:49 pm »
Thomas:  It looks like the snes classic is using the same emulator the VC does.  X2 and X3 are already confirmed to work and most likely everything else will work as well.  This is why I bought the thing.... as a supplement to my super everdrive.  Who the hell am I kidding though... this thing is waaay more convenient than using my snes and all the gear required to do rgb out.
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« Reply #204 on: October 04, 2017, 03:58:08 pm »
Does this thing have stupidly short controller cords like the NES did?

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« Reply #205 on: October 04, 2017, 06:13:50 pm »
Its slightly longer

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #206 on: October 04, 2017, 07:44:59 pm »
It's the difference between having to rest the console on your belly (NES) or having to put it in the floor so you have a little bit more slack(SNES).  Another two feet would have been great, but they are adequate this time. 

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« Reply #207 on: October 05, 2017, 08:05:59 am »
It's the difference between having to rest the console on your belly (NES) or having to put it in the floor so you have a little bit more slack(SNES).  Another two feet would have been great, but they are adequate this time.
I believe this is why bean bag chairs and after market wireless controllers were invented.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #208 on: October 08, 2017, 02:41:52 pm »
So for those interested, the latest release of hakchi2 now supports the snes classic.  Only about 75% of the snes library works out of the box, but they think that has to do with the odd header/footer format of the canoe emulator used, which is based off the wii u Virtual Console.  I would help out (figured out a lot of the wii vc header/rom stuff back in the day) but eh, I have enough projects that I don't work on.

Everybody that has a snes classic should go ahead and install the mod if only for the mod to return to the home menu with a key combo instead of having to press reset.  For those that didn't get a NES classic and are new to the app, don't worry, it's pretty idiot proof. 
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« Reply #209 on: October 08, 2017, 02:46:42 pm »
So can I just snag the famicom version, hack it with this stuff , get an aftermarket SNES controller thingie (likely wireless) and be G2G?
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« Reply #210 on: October 08, 2017, 03:03:29 pm »
I've read that the snes actually shipped with reset built in.  Abxylr start select at the same time....

I'm waiting for the ability to flash snes onto the Nes..... Soon I hope.


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« Reply #211 on: October 08, 2017, 03:30:36 pm »
I've read that the snes actually shipped with reset built in.  Abxylr start select at the same time....

I think that actually just resets the game you are in doesn't return to the menu system !

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« Reply #212 on: October 08, 2017, 04:06:44 pm »
Yeah it just resets the game.  Besides, would you really want to press all of that mess just to make a save state?  Hakchi2 defaults to down+select, which works great as select is rarely used in a game. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #213 on: October 09, 2017, 02:24:29 am »
It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens. 

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« Reply #214 on: October 09, 2017, 02:30:33 am »
Hmm... interesting stuff.  Apparently there are screen magnification options, which would probably get rid of the borders I complained about.  I believe they added the borders to make the crt filter look better btw.  Also the bezels can be specified, so it should be pretty easy to add custom bezels.  And apparently the hue, saturation and luminosity of the frame can be controlled by the game... so it isn't special code for those few bezels that do it. 

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« Reply #215 on: October 09, 2017, 03:59:42 am »
It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens.

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

Can we now say unequivocally that RPis are awesome?  ;D
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« Reply #216 on: October 09, 2017, 04:14:30 am »
It finally happened:

https://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1823

Somebody got the canoe (snes classic) emulator running on a stock raspberry pi.  They don't have the gui running yet, but I'm sure that's coming.  This is decidedly a good thing because canoe is really good at emulating super fx games.  Some of the command line options are interesting as well.  Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad.  I might have to try some custom command lines on my snes classic and see what happens.

That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.

Can we now say unequivocally that RPis are awesome?  ;D

Been over this already...

They are awesome! LOL


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« Reply #217 on: October 09, 2017, 05:55:02 am »
That's great news Howard. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
Still haven't opened my mini snes.  :dunno

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« Reply #218 on: October 09, 2017, 03:34:44 pm »
That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.
Here you go.  Not exactly the same, but pretty close.


Apparently you can overclock the virtual super fx chip, which might be worth playing with as the frame rates in those games are pretty bad. 
It works wonders for Starfox 1 and 2, but unfortunately it messes up Yoshi's Island's audio. Same with Stunt Race FX's, along with menu text flickering. But I read if you overclock Stunt Race to 1.25 then it's a good balance to get the boost and stop the audio and menu issues.



I finally got my pre-ordered SNES classic this weekend. I wasn't fortunate to get the NES classic, so this was my first experience with it.  I love it.  First the controllers really surprised me. Controllers are the first thing I always look at with extreme prejudice with any system I get, and especially any re-manufactured clones of classic controllers. The SNES classic's controllers feel spot on! The only difference I could tell is with the actual physical texture of the plastic being a bit more rough, grippy, similar to the Xbone controllers but not so rubber feeling.  The buttons and d-pad feels good and quite honestly, I think I enjoy them more than my originals now. :o
Emulation on this is pretty good too. I was expecting Pi-like input lag (i know some people don't experience lag with their pi's but I'm hyper sensitive to it and I definitely feel it on my dust-collecting pi), but I was pleasantly surprised that the canoe emulator feels more responsive than I've experienced with emulation.
Love the menu, love the interface and demo mode when the system is idle. The save state and rewind feature is a nice bonus. 
Overall I'm really happy with this, and it's going to be my travel system when I visit family. I used to lug around an original system with an upscaler device for family holiday time, which was always a pain in the ass to pack because I'm freaked out about damaging my gear. But now I can just take this with me it takes up minimal packing space.


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« Reply #219 on: October 09, 2017, 03:40:28 pm »
I've been kind of surprised how there's virtually nothing in the way of 3rd party accessories for the SNES Classic.  Figured I'd just get a wireless SNES controller for my modded Famicom and call it done...


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« Reply #220 on: October 09, 2017, 03:48:26 pm »
Tell me about it.  I'd like to get a wireless gamepad and stuff the receiver inside the shell so that the ugly flap on the front of the system doesn't have to be down. 

Opt2Not:  We told you man... it's a step above what we are all used to in regards to emulation on a arm system. 

I'm wondering if they can throw canoe on the Nes Classic as an add-on module and vice-versa.  That way people that don't have both can experience the best emulation on one system. 

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« Reply #221 on: October 09, 2017, 03:54:19 pm »
Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?


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« Reply #222 on: October 09, 2017, 04:00:49 pm »
That's great news, although personally I'm more interested in the GUI.
Here you go.  Not exactly the same, but pretty close.

Indeed. I'm already using Ruckage's NES Classic theme on my Pi, and his SNES Classic theme potentially looks even better. I'll definitely be trying it out once it's finished.

However, one small advantage the NES/SNES Classics have over Retropie is that the front ends and the emulators are tightly integrated. So, for example, the NES/SNS Classic front end given you a graphical representation of the save states, and the slots they're saved to.

The Retropie emulators also have save states (and rewind for that matter) but they're accessed by hot keys from within the emulator. You get used to it, but it's not quite as slick as the NES/SNES Classic approach.
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« Reply #223 on: October 09, 2017, 04:02:54 pm »
Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?

Those were the first flat front CRTs I had ever seen.  Remembered thinking they looked cool at the time.  Now... eh....


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« Reply #224 on: October 09, 2017, 04:48:05 pm »
Someone on reddit suggested making a mini kiosk to go with the Snes Classic.  Anyone up to the task?



That is a freaking cool idea!

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« Reply #225 on: October 13, 2017, 03:17:15 pm »
So these things are borderline worth it at $80 for the controllers.

The image borders are a nice touch.  The controller flap is stupid looking.

Otherwise the same user experience as the NES Classic.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #226 on: October 13, 2017, 05:44:11 pm »
You've got rewind, which I've got to admit I've been using more than I thought.  It's nice if you forgot to save and screw up.  There are also a few more graphical options for the emulator, but you've got to access them via hakchi and the command line options. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #227 on: October 13, 2017, 05:50:36 pm »
I also really like the Attract Mode feature when your system is idle, that randomly cycles through 30 secs of each of your save states.
Really cool feature.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #228 on: October 13, 2017, 06:00:31 pm »
Eh I dunno.  Even though it's more simple I kind of like the little Mario v Luigi fight on the NES Classic.  They dropped the ball on that and the online manuals, which were re-optimized for a web browser on the NESC. 

Speaking of which.... a cool mod would be to display a QR code linking to the selected game's manual when the load/save screen is opened.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #229 on: October 19, 2017, 04:24:23 pm »
Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today.  :cheers:

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #230 on: October 19, 2017, 05:17:39 pm »
Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today.  :cheers:

Wow! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has really gotten into these little guys. I picked up a Famicom Mini from Amazon last week. I found the US Super NES mini at Target on Saturday. And then the EU Super NES mini I ordered from Amazon Spain a few weeks ago arrived yesterday. Gonna have to wait until next year to get the original NES mini as I have no desire to pay > $200 for one now. Debating whether I should pick up the Super Famicom mini when they're plentiful in Japan and reasonable on Amazon. The EU SNES looks identical and I'm sure the wife would say buying the Super Fami is a bit excessive. Like buying the other 4 isn't. LOL!  :laugh2:

On the plus side, I've only overpaid for the Famicom so far. It was like $104 which isn't terrible. It would probably have been that much if I bought it from someone in Japan and had it shipped. Both Super NES units were actual price.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #231 on: October 19, 2017, 05:26:54 pm »
Just received the UK version I traded my Backup NES from last year for in the mail today.  :cheers:

Wow! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has really gotten into these little guys. I picked up a Famicom Mini from Amazon last week. I found the US Super NES mini at Target on Saturday. And then the EU Super NES mini I ordered from Amazon Spain a few weeks ago arrived yesterday. Gonna have to wait until next year to get the original NES mini as I have no desire to pay > $200 for one now. Debating whether I should pick up the Super Famicom mini when they're plentiful in Japan and reasonable on Amazon. The EU SNES looks identical and I'm sure the wife would say buying the Super Fami is a bit excessive. Like buying the other 4 isn't. LOL!  :laugh2:

On the plus side, I've only overpaid for the Famicom so far. It was like $104 which isn't terrible. It would probably have been that much if I bought it from someone in Japan and had it shipped. Both Super NES units were actual price.

Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail - then this year have picked up 2 of the SNES's also at retail -- then on reddit saw a listing wanting to trade a UK version for a NES so decided to trade the backup NES for it ( so it only cost the $10 shipping plus the $59 for the NES !) - thinking I might get the JP version ( put an order in on Amazon.jp but the listing is actually for those that pre-ordered and got cancelled on so not sure if it will survive or get cancelled until the 26th when it is supposed to ship so will see but at least the account is there if it does get cancelled for when they restock - the pre-order set it is for was only $97 shipped including the AC adapter and card set so figured it was worth a try ! )

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #232 on: October 19, 2017, 05:31:56 pm »
Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #233 on: October 19, 2017, 05:50:57 pm »
Yeah they are a bit addictive -- I bought 2 of the NES's last year at retail



Only wanted a second controller but couldn't find one anywhere for less than $40 - $50 so when I saw the NES sitting in walmarts display case after they received the 1 unit restock - I just had to go ahead and buy it !!   :laugh2:

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #234 on: October 19, 2017, 06:19:49 pm »
I forgot the NES minis only come with a single controller. The Famicom minis have two, but that’s because they squeeze into slots on the side of the main unit. Honestly they’re so small though that they probably equal one US controller if u combined them together. Lol! They are hardwired to the console so I am planning on modding it with controller extensions so I can use other controllers with it.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #235 on: October 20, 2017, 04:25:22 pm »
I forgot the NES minis only come with a single controller. The Famicom minis have two, but that’s because they squeeze into slots on the side of the main unit. Honestly they’re so small though that they probably equal one US controller if u combined them together. Lol! They are hardwired to the console so I am planning on modding it with controller extensions so I can use other controllers with it.

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I didn't know Famicom controllers were that much smaller. I've never seen one in person.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #236 on: October 25, 2017, 08:33:11 am »
I believe the original Famicom controllers were about the same size as the NES ones. However, to mimic the look of the original system (which allowed the controllers to be stored in pockets on the sides of the main unit), the mini had to have much smaller controllers. I almost feel like they should have put replica controllers on the sides of the console and then provided actual sized controllers to play with. Or at least make the controllers detachable from the main unit so that you can easily use other controllers. I suspect these shortcomings are why you can easily find Famicom minis for reasonable prices on places like Amazon and eBay.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #237 on: October 25, 2017, 09:08:58 pm »
That and the fact that the normal population doesn't know wtf the famicom looks like or possibly doesn't know about it's existence at all.  I know when talking to non-gamer people I realize how big the knowledge gap can be between nuts like us and everybody else. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #238 on: October 25, 2017, 09:45:30 pm »
It’s true. I do feel like I know way more than I should about all things video game related. If only I could get paid for that knowledge. LOL!

I suppose we all have our areas of intense interest. I know some guys that can pull out majorly obscure sports facts at a moment’s notice. I’m not that big on sports and am always amazed by this. They’re like walking encyclopedias! Of course you tend to find way more people to discuss sports with than video games. That’s what keeps me coming back to this place.  :cheers:

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #239 on: October 25, 2017, 11:14:24 pm »
Sports are the secular glue that holds society together.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #240 on: October 26, 2017, 02:52:42 am »
Not really.  There are large swatches of humanity that could care less about sports.  You've just been in Texas too long.  ;)

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #241 on: October 26, 2017, 08:20:45 am »
Okay, fine, the secular glue that holds Texas together.


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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #242 on: October 26, 2017, 02:30:19 pm »
That is a truthful statement. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #243 on: October 26, 2017, 03:10:50 pm »
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #244 on: October 26, 2017, 04:30:58 pm »
The problem with the sports is the time sink.  3-4 hours of watching a bunch or men wrassle each other to get a ball to one end of a field is a bit much.  Anyone is welcome to waste their time, but when it's wasting MY time in the process is when I take issue. 

I'm with Vince McMahon on this one... time outs and breaks between plays are for babies.... just play the game in an hour or less and then it is acceptable entertainment.  #RIPXFL

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #245 on: October 26, 2017, 04:39:53 pm »
The problem with the sports is the time sink.  3-4 hours of watching a bunch or men wrassle each other to get a ball to one end of a field is a bit much.  Anyone is welcome to waste their time, but when it's wasting MY time in the process is when I take issue. 

I'm with Vince McMahon on this one... time outs and breaks between plays are for babies.... just play the game in an hour or less and then it is acceptable entertainment.  #RIPXFL

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #246 on: October 26, 2017, 05:03:56 pm »
Personally, I grew up with a good balance of all type of interests; I was into sports, gaming, art, film, music. I played hockey throughout my life, basketball in high-school, I had piano lessons and I was in band.
I've always believed a diversity of interests also paired along easily with a diversity of friendships.  It's all part of my goal of becoming a renaissance man.

These days I follow Football and Hockey.  Football mainly because of Fantasy Leagues, everything is more enjoyable when there's money and competition involved. :D

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #247 on: October 26, 2017, 05:42:51 pm »
Of course you played piano.  What was the other option?  Violin?


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« Reply #248 on: October 26, 2017, 06:11:28 pm »
Well I am half-white, so I did have an option of learning guitar. But at that time in our household a lot of Elton John was frequently being played, and I have long fingers so my choice was pretty clear to learn piano.
But yeah, the stereotype for Asian kids is piano or violin. Cello is another option.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #249 on: October 27, 2017, 12:03:42 am »
Well I am half-white, so I did have an option of learning guitar.

You only get to play guitar while white if you have a mullet and/or a sweet mustache.  You also have to learn Skynard.  :)

I'm very much a renaissance man, people who know me have called me that on a few occasions.  Having a lot of interests isn't the same as forcing yourself to do things that you don't like.  I pride myself in regards to the fact that I don't like things that "everyone" likes just for the sake of fitting in.  Most people are stupid, so popularity doesn't always equate to quality.  I mean slavery used to be quite popular.... then some people wised up.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #250 on: October 27, 2017, 12:45:23 am »
Well where I’m from, the grunge alt-rock look paired along with the guitar playing white boys. ;)
I wish I were a renaissance man, I definitely strive for it, but like you I tend to shy away from things I don’t like. I’m getting better though, and will give a thing a second or third try.
As for popularity, don’t confuse that with diversity. Having a select few quality friends from different backgrounds and interests is greater than having a lot of random friends.

Anyway, Mario Odyssey comes out tomorrow, which means my SNESC is going to be collecting dust for a little while.   

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #251 on: October 28, 2017, 09:04:06 am »
Im looking forward to oddysey. I pre ordered it but didnt forsee being broke at release. Does gamestop still honor the pre order (the $5 i already paid) a week after release?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #252 on: October 28, 2017, 10:52:59 am »
Im looking forward to oddysey. I pre ordered it but didnt forsee being broke at release. Does gamestop still honor the pre order (the $5 i already paid) a week after release?

From Gamestop :

"Your Home store will hold the product for the first 48 hours after it releases. After 48 hours, the product will be available for another guest to purchase and may no longer be available."

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #253 on: October 28, 2017, 12:02:16 pm »
Im looking forward to oddysey. I pre ordered it but didnt forsee being broke at release. Does gamestop still honor the pre order (the $5 i already paid) a week after release?

From Gamestop :

"Your Home store will hold the product for the first 48 hours after it releases. After 48 hours, the product will be available for another guest to purchase and may no longer be available."
But if they do have it next week do i still get $5 off or is that gone?

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #254 on: October 28, 2017, 04:42:43 pm »
You still get your $5. I've missed picking up games (or changed my mind after playing it at a friend's house) and just used my deposit for something else.

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #255 on: October 28, 2017, 06:14:32 pm »
Well I am half-white, so I did have an option of learning guitar.

You only get to play guitar while white if you have a mullet and/or a sweet mustache.  You also have to learn Skynard.  :)

I'm very much a renaissance man, people who know me have called me that on a few occasions.  Having a lot of interests isn't the same as forcing yourself to do things that you don't like.  I pride myself in regards to the fact that I don't like things that "everyone" likes just for the sake of fitting in.  Most people are stupid, so popularity doesn't always equate to quality.  I mean slavery used to be quite popular.... then some people wised up.

Equating liking sports to slavery? That’s an X2ian logic leap if I ever saw one. :cheers:
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #256 on: October 28, 2017, 07:05:11 pm »
You thinking that I equated sports to slavery... that's the X2 logic.  You need to read what I say and stop making correlations where none exist. 

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #257 on: October 28, 2017, 07:12:13 pm »
You thinking that I equated sports to slavery... that's the X2 logic.  You need to read what I say and stop making correlations where none exist.

This whole discussion about liking things started with sports. This is where it ended up.

But enough of that. Just stick with the SNES talk, it’s more relevant.
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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #258 on: November 08, 2017, 07:25:40 am »
Well it looks like I might be getting one of these things after all.

I just speculatively placed an order with Amazon France within the two minute window they were available, and to my surprise, my order appears to have been accepted!

It only cost £73.66 including shipping. That's only a few pounds more than Nintendo's official price of £69.99 (which all sellers apart from Nintendo are ignoring anyway).

I'm now waiting nervously to see whether Amazon France do a Walmart on me and tell me they made a "mistake" .....
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« Reply #259 on: November 08, 2017, 09:59:51 am »
Not sure what leverage Target is possibly using on these sites, but all of them have one by one quit tracking SNES inventory.

My friend grabbed 3 at a Wal-Mart 2 weeks ago.  Been harassing me to hack them ever since.   :lol

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« Reply #260 on: November 08, 2017, 01:42:57 pm »
Not sure what leverage Target is possibly using on these sites, but all of them have one by one quit tracking SNES inventory.

My friend grabbed 3 at a Wal-Mart 2 weeks ago.  Been harassing me to hack them ever since.   :lol
Some people need to learn how to use google and youtube

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #261 on: November 08, 2017, 02:04:20 pm »
Yeah it isn't so much a hack thing as a "download this app and follow the instructions" thing.  When there's an app that does everything but collect the roms for you there really isn't any excuse. 

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« Reply #262 on: November 08, 2017, 02:19:31 pm »
Yeah, but dual boot is a pain in the ass still.  Hakchi still has lots of weird problems.

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« Reply #263 on: November 08, 2017, 04:55:53 pm »
Well there will be another supply run of the NES Classic soon enough anyway, so your friend can pick up 3 of those and wait for you to hack it for him as well.  :dunno

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Re: Nintendo is bringing back the SNES — SNES Classic Edition
« Reply #264 on: November 15, 2017, 11:15:05 am »
So anyone going to buy a Genesis Flashback?

Anyone?

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« Reply #265 on: November 15, 2017, 12:14:34 pm »
So anyone going to buy a Genesis Flashback?

Anyone?

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