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dkersten:

--- Quote from: Dal1980 on February 17, 2017, 03:33:26 am ---I did guess that IR is not sophisticated tech but find that it is not reliable tech. For instance, why do the patches need to be placed exactly over the box receiver? I've tried dangling them off the front but its as if the IR bulb has only a very narrow beam. We also seem to struggle with angles, pressing and pressing and waving arms around pressing. 😌

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My point is that what you are experiencing is based on the hardware you are using, not the tech.  Most IR repeaters use the mini-blasters so you can control where the IR is going.  Let's say you had 3 cable boxes in one rack that are each for different rooms.  If you used one blaster, sending a "channel up" signal would switch all three boxes, which would be a problem.  So mini-blasters that only have a few inches of range allow you to control a single device without sending IR to other devices.  But most situations have only the equipment in the remote location for one system, not for other rooms.  In that case, larger blasters are usually better, if the device supports them.

The Logitech blasters are very powerful and don't need to be placed precisely at all.  In your case you could take the 2 blasters that come with the hub and mount one on each level and be fine.  The IR light will bounce off surfaces and still work, so just having the blaster somewhere in the cabinet will likely be enough.  And you can add blasters if you need to control other equipment.  You can extend them easily so wherever you can run a wire from the hub, you can control IR devices.

As Howard said, you can use an app to control the hub, but if you want the app to also control devices not in the same cabinet as the hub, you would need to place a blaster so it can control those devices (i.e. the tv in your room).  If you use the Harmony remote, you can program it to use the built in IR eye to control the tv, and the hub to control the rest, but you can't control the remote itself with the app, just the hub. 

Before investing a ton of money, try wiring up a regular blaster and see if it works with your repeater unit.  Here is one I found after a single search, I am sure there are hundreds you could try.  https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Resources-repeater-multiple-emitters/dp/B0039BYJ4A.  They are all basically the same.

Of course, if the problem is you now have bluetooth devices to control, harmony hub is the way to go.


Dal1980:
If everything came with a com port and a standard protocol for communicating then it would be much easier.

Just to make it clear, the unit you see above is the only place in the house where all of my equipment is. Blueray can be playing upstairs, digi box could be playing in kitchen, android could be playing in study and DVD could be playing in lounge. Each one repeats the blink via a device which converts signal from HDMI to LAN. This box also carries signal for the IR to a repeater which is then stuck on the front of the unit. Heres a link to one of the PoE devices that sit next to each TV
https://www.google.co.uk/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwjHrOOOypfSAhXFvO0KHQ7rDXQYABATGgJkZw&sig=AOD64_25QYZQCK92A5gCemtH2O2EmlXCYg&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwidtOGOypfSAhXFB8AKHWDcDckQqCsIqAE&adurl=

Heres my system https://goo.gl/images/fuJ6XT

Android box is great as it already has a IP remote.

Sky box (currently talk talk) is IR operated but if i move back to sky ill have Bluetooth (need to find a blue tooth repeater).

DVD player (going to replace this for an amp anyway so only need local operation in the room it is in for 5:1 s.sound.

BlueRay operates solely on IR.

In the setup i have i would need a 3.5mm mono jack to IR repeater and a harmony remote by the sounds of it.


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Mike A:
Did that really cost almost 2000 USD? You should have just bought peripherals for each room. You probably would have come out ahead. :P
Dal1980:
Yeah it was some price but this was quite a while ago now. Since then solutions have gotten a bit better on the price tag.

I wouldn't particularly recommend HD anywhere to anyone since everything is so expensive and within 18 months one of the units packed up.



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