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Tailgunner:

--- Quote from: GroovyTuesdaY on January 25, 2004, 06:13:04 am ---oh man,  WHOOPS. i am sorry.    Its late and my eyes burn lol
BAD GROOVY, BAAAAD GROOVY!!  :-[  :-X
hehe.
Thanks man! :D

groovy~:D

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LOL  8)
GroovyTuesdaY:
Dont forget tailgunner,  In the end, we are all counting on you for a "final word" of sorts on whether or not the repros. are worth the money and are a worthy successor to the wico  sticks.

Thanks again for all your work man!  Funny, i bet your not thinking its much work though huh? heheeh.

g~
patrickl:
Wow that's a lot of detailed pictures!

It's not so much the grommet as to how the grommet is manufactured. If the grommet was good the rest would not be a problem.

I ordered this stick from MikesArcade cause I thought it couldn't be as bad as was described (and I already was ordering a lot from them, I was bullied out in the last 5 seconds of a real Wico deal on e-Bay and I hate the clickety sound of the J-Stick so I assumed I just had to try my luck with another leaf stick).

I received it today and I have to say/shout "OMG these sticks are even more worthless than I ever imagined"!!!! >:(

There is so much space between the shaft and the grommet bushing that almost the full throw of the stick can be reached in several directions (the stick is off center) without even touching the grommet! When you wiggle the whole unit the stick just bounces around in it.

In my case the shaft is 0.95cm (0.374") and the grommet hole is 1.02cm (0.402") which leaves 0.7mm (0.028") of space to wobble about.

The top of the stick can move around 1.4cm (0.5") without using the grommet. The only thing holding the stick up straight is the spring to hold the actuator down.

All this results in a bit of a "two way action" when you switch directions. First it moves freely for about half an inch and then you hits the grommet which hardly budges. By then you have to hope the leaf switches weren't bent already, because otherwise you won't have a hit at all.

Incredible  :o
Tailgunner:
Geez Patrick, it sure sounds like you got a lemon. I can recreate about the same amount of play by using a Wico shaft with the repro grommet, and like you said, it's enough to make the stick unusable.

I'd suggest wrapping the shaft with foil tape where it passes through the grommet. But then again, if mine was that sloppy I'd just as likely want my money back.

I've got two more of these repro sticks on the shelf at my shop. I'll have to open them and check to see if either I just happened to get a good one or you just got a bad one.

As to my panel mounting this one to check the feel, I'm currently waiting for the driveway to melt so I can leave the house. Being a southerner, I've never shoveled snow and I have no intentions of starting now. ;)
patrickl:
Well I ordered tyhis thing knowing it would not be very good so I can't fault the supplier (although I'll warn them that the stick really sucked) Even if I would have wanted a refund, is that shipping back to the US would probably cost more than a refund on the stick. So I guess I'm stuck with it.  :P

Now that I read your measurements back they sure sound a lot better. Hmm I got it somewhere else, but the "assembly manual" and all the parts sure looks identical. So I guess it's the same setup.

I was thinking of sticking something on the shaft yes. I'd figure if it was stuck that it wouldn't even be so bad (after the leaf switches were repaired/bent back though since they stick out in all directions too!)

One thing different about my stick was that the metal washer was delivered loose. Did yours come assembled somewhere in the joystick?

:edit: OK I spotted the metal washer in your pics and I see that it is supposed to go under the grommet. I assume to keep the spring from going into places where it shouldn't go.
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