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TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« on: February 11, 2017, 04:30:00 pm »
I recently picked up a Dynamo HS-1 project cab to start a Ghouls n' Ghosts restoration. I have a repro control panel coming in from Texas, and soon i need to get my hands on the art package from TOG. Pretty excited about this one, as its a favourite memory from my youth.  Cabinet is in amazing shape, very little wood damage, and just needs a teardown, some minor bondo cleanup, and some new paint.

I have a massively cool pickup/restoration coming soon on the horizon as well, so i want to try and get this one done in record time. Here's the video and some pictures!


https://youtu.be/fxd4J3ve5bY








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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 07:17:46 pm »
That doesn't look too bad. I like the screw through the t-molding. Awesome game, good luck with the restore.

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 07:34:13 pm »
thanks for the pix.

That is a gnarly chunk out of the front. Bondo fill or cut and replace the wood?
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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 07:57:02 pm »
I like those control panels where you just need to replace that little plate. Since I have access to a plasma cutter, I'd be making myself panels left and right if I had one of those.
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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 12:29:15 am »
Adding Bondo for sure, only that little bit is bad and I can reshape it for sure. I gotta strip all the paint and base layer of vinyl off first.

That's kinda my plan with this panel. However that's for another project as it's coming out in favor of an actual repro GnG panel I have coming from Texas.

Gonna start working on this sometime this week.

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 12:57:46 am »
For that corner, or any corner where its not quite a large enough bit of damage to warrant just cutting out the corner and adding in a new piece of wood.. I've had good results adding in either a bit of wooden doweling rods, or some screws to act as a sort of as rebar for when i formed bondo around it, just to give it a little bit of strength/durability. If you try to rebuild the corner from just bondo alone , at some point in the future if it happens to gets a bit of force on that corner (getting kicked or banged around), it might just snap out the chunk of bondo. I used screws on my Joust corner touchup a few years back, wish I took pictures of it, but its held up great, and you'd never know it was repaired that way.

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 07:44:21 am »
I use dowels too, for this cab I'd get some corner guards to go over the repair work
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 09:22:05 am »
If the corner is supposed to be square I've had good luck patching in plywood.  It holds better than bondo for the corners.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,103771.msg1536604.html#msg1536604


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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 03:23:16 pm »
Making some progress on the teardown.

JoshODBrown and I stripped down the cab to the shell. Then the next day i went at the front and sides with a heat gun to remove the vinyl covering. This thing is in amazing condition now that i have all that black plastic painted with grey paint off.   The plan is to repaint, not recover. I want to get a little crafty with the paint finishes and find a nice satin and semi-gloss to roll on with foam rollers. Back in September i worked on a cocktail project for a my old boss and had good results with the same finish.

The one corner isn't too bad, structurally  it wont need much to be repaired. That will be the next step, and will be included in the next episode of the restoration on TCA.







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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 06:00:49 am »
WHY DO ALL YOUR BEGINNING POSTS HAVE SUCH A LARGE FONT?  ITS NOT LIKE ANYONE IS GOING TO OVERSHADOW IT...

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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2017, 02:07:28 pm »
haha, :)

because the default text looks so small compared to the pictures.  stretches a full paragraph out to one line. looks silly.

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2017, 02:16:49 pm »
haha, :)

because the default text looks so small compared to the pictures.  stretches a full paragraph out to one line. looks silly.


Whajja say?  Type louder!

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 05:17:00 am »
I picked up a new coin door, Its from HAPP, not the same Coin Controls one that was on originally, but it's really similar and this will save me a ton of work and time restoring the old one. I plan to switch out the credit buttons for red ones.



I've moved the cabinet into the garage and now that the weather isn't bad i've started sanding down all the surfaces with 40, 100, and 220 grit. Next i'll need to do some bondo work and fix up the corners.



As you can see from above, this is what the front left corner looked like:



Now that all the sanding is done, it's time to repair the front corners with some bondo.  When i do this, i like to build a form around the area. I do this by wrapping pieces of hardwood and plexi with wax paper and clamping them into position around the area. Sometimes I try using a spare chunk of t-moulding as well. because i'm doing a flat corner, i like to use just a little more bondo then i need and then flatten it down with some plexi (also wrapped in wax paper), and weigh it down to flatten it.



What your left with is a bit of a rough canvas you can shape into something resembling a proper corner.



I don't show it here in this picture, but i take a circle template from my drafting kit, and a pencil and draw the radius onto the hardened bondo. This gives me a guide to ensure that the corner comes out round after i take to it with the sander.



For the final step, i run the slot cutting bit over it with the router to make a new grove for the t-molding.



I'll be going over this with more detail in the video once its ready.  For now, i patched up both front corners, and a couple holes by the coin door where a lockdown bar had been installed. Once it was cleaned off, i moved the cabinet back into the basement for paint. :)

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 09:54:17 am »
Restoring coin doors takes "a ton of time?"  90 seconds of shaking the rattle can of hammered black, bro.


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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 02:29:09 pm »
This ones pretty grimy. It would need to be stripped completely, parts all cleaned, tarnish removed, and the holes patched. Id rather just skip that for this one and get started on more important stuff.

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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2017, 02:40:21 pm »
True, those videos don't make themselves.

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2017, 03:58:34 pm »
I was talking about my recent Sheriff acquisition.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2017, 10:34:55 am »
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This ones pretty grimy. It would need to be stripped completely, parts all cleaned, tarnish removed, and the holes patched. Id rather just skip that for this one and get started on more important stuff.

I will attest to this. It's the difference in time between a new coat of paint on the outside vs. essentially making a whole unit from parts... Because if you're gonna do it right, do it the whole way. Especially when its mechanical parts... Nothing like something that looks nice but doesn't work anywhere near as nice.

Looking good Chance. I dig the corner trick... Have you ever considered grafting on a section of cab? This one doesn't seem bad, but have seen some who have added a chunk of wood to replace missing pieces. Looks tedious either way.

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2017, 04:26:23 pm »
I've never really needed to replace whole sections of wood. Ive always been lucky enough that it can be fixed with clamps, bondo, or wood glue. That being said im not against having to do it, but i doubt i would pickup a game with that kind of damage unless it was one of my three remaining "must have" games.

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2017, 10:35:11 pm »
Looks good.

I've nothing but for frustrated members of G&G at Pizza hut.

Good luck.

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2017, 12:15:37 am »
This ones pretty grimy. It would need to be stripped completely, parts all cleaned, tarnish removed, and the holes patched. Id rather just skip that for this one and get started on more important stuff.
If you're going this far on the cab, you might as well re-finish the original doors.  The HAPP won't look right.  It's equivalent to someone doing an awesome job on a cabinet and then slapping an X-Arcade on there because it's "easier".

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2017, 12:07:02 pm »
Any updates on this cab Chance? I figure you are probably busy with your two new cocktail cabinet projects, but I'm excited to see how this one turns out.  I love Ghouls n' Ghosts, but have only ever played the home console versions of the game

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2017, 04:21:26 pm »
The only real update is that my SF:2 board is back from being converted to GnG. It has a selector switch so i can choose what ROM set you want to start the game as. It's very bad ass, and i've already beaten my previous best distance into the game. :D



The cabinet is also ready to be painted and given the laminate treatment on the outside walls. I've abandoned the "lets roll on the paint" idea, for various reasons. I have a plan for this that i'm gonna keep quiet on until i get it done because its not conventional but i have all the confidence in the world it should look cool (won't be purple... don't worry).  The cocktails are aside right now because i don't want to start them until this GnG is done. Last week i did a quick 24hours on my new Great 1000 Mile Rally, and this weekend coming up is YEGPIN in Edmonton. As soon as we get back from that we have a Nintendo Joystick project in conjunction with Mike's Arcade, then i'll have some time to get back to this build.  :D

I REALLY want to get this done, what i have planned for it has me pretty excited too. :D

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2017, 09:16:13 am »
(won't be purple... don't worry). 


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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2017, 02:33:30 pm »
Lots to talk about since my last post so i'll be quick.

Next up was the paint. I started with the back panel. gave it a good couple coats of primer, and then moved on to the black. Honestly, if i'm working with bare wood i'm NEVER going to use rollers again. Knowing what i know about rattle cans (although expensive) and HVLP Sprayers, i'm never rolling on paint again. The black took forever to do just 3 coats, and it was a nightmare because it kept soaking into the MDF and giving a rough texture.





It was getting bad, so i said, screw it. I've painted most of my other cabs with rattle cans. I'm gonna do this one too.  We moved the cabinet into the garage and masked off everything we didn't want black.  I'm not going with the traditional colour scheme here. We'll not completely. 





I painted the majority of the cabinet including the back and monitor shroud with a flat black primer, then masked off the back and threw a few coats of semigloss black down.  As before the results were amazing. Expensive, but I'm happy with them. I've painted os many things with rattle cans, that I've started to get it down to a science and use less cans.





So far so good.

Here's a better look at the cab now that the spray is finished.












Later this week we're going to tackle the laminate for the sides. I've gone out and picked up a J-Roller, some contact cement and a couple sheets of matte finish formica. needless to say this will not be a conventional looking GnG.  But more on that later.

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2017, 04:36:59 am »
Laminate for the win!

Ok, Cat's outta the bag so to speak. This will not be your regular old black Ghouls n' Ghosts cabinet, (yes, i know, "Not Original" :) ) But i was never really a fan of the all black with white outline artwork, lack of contrast, etc, that the original one was. So i'm gonna make a few changes.  For starters, the sides of this cabinet are now bright white. :D  Kinda going for a Light vs. Dark thing here with the white and the black front. There will be some more subtle tweaks of this as i go along. All hopefully quite tasteful. I mean, With the board i'm putting in here its already Not Original, so think of this as an unofficial "deluxe" version of the game.  This is definitely one of those "the pictures don't do it justice" kinda things.

We really didn't get that many pictures of the process, however we did document it on video and will be releasing a separate "Laminating 101" video on the channel.








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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2017, 06:33:06 am »
Do yourself a favor. Don't front load a bunch of reasons why people are not going to like your choices. Just put it out there and let the choices speak for themselves. It betrays a lack of confidence in those decisions.

Also. Does the internet really need another laminating video? There are thousands of them already.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2017, 11:23:51 am »
Do yourself a favor. Don't front load a bunch of reasons why people are not going to like your choices. Just put it out there and let the choices speak for themselves. It betrays a lack of confidence in those decisions.

Also. Does the internet really need another laminating video? There are thousands of them already.

This one's just for Canadians only. Did you see the title?
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2017, 11:30:43 am »
When did Canada become a country? :dunno

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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2017, 04:13:55 pm »
July 1st, 1867. A few years after we beat you in a war and set fire to the Whitehouse.  ;)

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2017, 04:17:27 pm »
We were going to remodel anyways. We had to let you do something to boost your self esteem. :cheers:

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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2017, 04:22:21 pm »
Sorry, but we don't do returns for defective products due to user modification. Only in original packaging.

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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2017, 04:31:38 pm »
At least take Howie Mandel back.

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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2017, 04:36:59 pm »
I always assume Canada is like one big episode of the trailer park boys.

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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2017, 05:10:26 pm »
I always assume Canada is like one big episode of the trailer park boys.
. Some parts are. You'd be surprised

At least take Howie Mandel back.
Deal, but you have to keep Celine Dion.

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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2017, 05:13:30 pm »
I can live with that.

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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2017, 05:19:33 pm »
I can live with that.

Its a deal then.

Meet you at the Sweetgrass, MT border crossing at Noon on the 17th. I will throw in a case of Canadian Club Whiskey for a box of Dark Chocolate Milkyway bars and original flavor Cheese-its.

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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2017, 05:20:51 pm »
I will even make it the Captain America Cheez Its.

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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2017, 10:20:36 pm »
I am interested to see this finished, because I love white sided arcade cabinets and laminate.

Did you sell Lighting Fighters yet?

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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2017, 03:27:40 am »
Not yet no.

Waiting on that to fund the art package.

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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2017, 10:49:50 am »
Have you thought about getting a Ghosts 'n' Goblins board and a switcher for this? A multi "Ghosts" might be fun.

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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2017, 12:53:51 pm »
I have actually,  my original idea was to somehow mix the art packages of the two and do a combined cab like my DK:U but then decided to go more towards Ghouls.  I might toss a Jamma switcher and a 19-in-1 set to single game mode with Goblins untill i stumble across an actual board.

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« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2017, 07:03:45 pm »
So, this just came in the mail from Texas via Pennsylvania. :D

Anyone with experience on these repros know if i need to paint/coat them? I feel like this surface rusting might be an issue down the road?






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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2017, 07:09:01 pm »
Painting those hinges sucks ass...

If you going to go coating, get someone else to do it.

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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2017, 07:14:01 pm »
powdercoating it maybe?

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« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2017, 08:22:16 pm »
I just use Rustoleum grey auto primer and then paint it over it. Powder coating is fine but overkill.

So knowing you, you're going to powder coat it. :-)
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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2017, 09:34:32 am »
The black took forever to do just 3 coats, and it was a nightmare because it kept soaking into the MDF and giving a rough texture.


Bro.  Get a friggin' paint gun...
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2017, 10:32:33 am »
I've seen MDF take paint like a mofo due to not being sealed properly. Do you mean the particleboard? That seems more porous than MDF - which is known for being a pain - so the particleboard would likely be a thirsty bugger. Some seal MDF with a 50/50 glue and water mix that seals things up very well. I suppose that is why most cabs like this are vinyl covered? Curious what kind of primer you used before painting... I was gonna roll, now I am worried  :lol

Seriously coming together nicely tho Chance, and at a good pace. I would definitely prime/paint that CP as I reckon over time the corrosion will creep under the laminate fairly easily. That said, it may be fine and not lift the art. I recently stripped a seemingly fine filing cabinet and was shocked at what the bare metal looked like underneath as it had a fair deal of corrosion starting, with little hint from the paint on top.
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2017, 01:53:25 pm »
Small update:

Only cost me $52.50 CDN to have the CP and marquee bracket powder coated to match. Same place I get all my other stuff done. To me thats equal/cheaper then it would have cost to spray bomb it considering the cost of paint, my time to do it, and prep work, cleanup. Plus its done WAY better then i could have sprayed it, and it's more durable.  Plus it was done in 3 days, not the two weeks some people quote, so Win.




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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2017, 02:11:22 pm »
 Nailed it.
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2017, 02:45:48 pm »
I would have spent that money to not have to paint that hinge.

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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2017, 04:17:19 pm »
I would have spent that money to not have to paint that hinge.

Yeah, that factored in too. It was on my way into a client's place anyways. So whatever.

Nailed it.

For sure. :) Though one of these days i'll surprise you.

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« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2017, 05:03:41 am »
Also another interesting thing to note. This HS-1 cabinet only has one speaker and speaker grill. Even though the cabinets have two sets of speaker slots on the outside. I'm going to be upgrading this cabinet to have pair of speakers, (more on that later).  I had some extra matching perforated metal from another project so i cut out a similar square, cleaned them both to remove rust and oil. and then sprayed them black.






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« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2017, 05:08:43 pm »
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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2017, 12:45:19 pm »
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« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2017, 09:10:51 am »
how much for that Moon Patrol shirt shipped to Oklahoma?  >:D


Looking forward to seeing it come together.



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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2017, 05:05:50 am »
hehehe, yeah, i'm not giving that one up. :D

Rich should have more at TOG if you email him.

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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2017, 10:15:37 pm »
So to wrap this up here's 12 hours of the 14 hour live stream we did a couple nights ago building this cab from the pile of parts to the completed, working game.

Due to the unfortunate limitations of Youtube, the upload of the live stream cuts off at the 12 hour mark with the game powered on and me solving an audio issue. However by the end of it I managed to get everything 100% and even did a small play through. This Project is now done, and i'm very happy with how it turned out.

https://youtu.be/yE-8SMEI7Fk




Also, here's some pictures of the build i took in the process.

For the buttons i've chosen to go with a combination of Chrome/Black IL buttons. I was never a fan of the original white P1/2 buttons on this control panel, it always seemed incomplete. Black ones just seemed to blend into the panel too much, and ones with the little men on them just seemed redundant with the artwork already showing 1 and 2 players. I felt the Chrome/Black was a nice mix, and i insisted on the IL's so they didn't have that cheap "Aliexpress special" look to them.  I'm also using Ultimarc GoldLeaf buttons for that leaf button feel, and that classic look. I used these on a NeoGeo panel and for repetitive button smashing they are the way to go for sure.



I'm a huge fan of choice. and one of the things i liked about this is that i had a choice of stick. The original game shipped with a choice of the Coin Controls stick, or a Wico. I had found a source of Reproduction Wico sticks that feel and play identical to some NOS ones i have on other games. I polished the balltop to a shine with some 800 and 2000 gritt Wet/Dry sand paper, and some Novis.



The original game also used a pair of incandescent bulbs for the marquee. I figured, i didn't want to have to change out bulbs, or cause heat damage to the artwork, so i opted for an LED bar with a similar colour temperature.



I also rebuilt the power block with a new power supply and filter, which i promptly replaced with a better one, because those cheap PSU's suck and couldn't put out any more then 10.5v under load.



The artwork was provided by This Old Game. Rich was kind enough to provide a version of the side art that was laminated in matte in order to better match the surface of the white laminate we used for the sides. Very happy with how well it looks on the game, and it blends with the white quite well.





This project was one of my favourites for sure. In the end I feel that I was able to get what I had in mind out on the floor of the games room. Definitely that Good vs. Evil and tune up of the original that i was looking for. 


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« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2017, 10:20:17 pm »
To give you a better idea of the transformation, here's a before and after shot...


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« Reply #60 on: July 30, 2017, 11:25:22 pm »
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, a 12 HOUR video? And its the short version? :cheers:
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« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2017, 07:55:56 am »
That turned out great. Love the white sides and artwork.


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« Reply #62 on: July 31, 2017, 10:13:18 am »
I love it.  Super jealous. Would look great in any game room collection.


Hope more people copy you doing things like this.

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« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2017, 10:19:46 am »
I do like the white sides and the simple side art. There's so much that can be done with white and empty space. I'm glad you didn't feel compelled to wrap the whole thing with tons of gaudy art.

See, you can bring fresh new designs but still retain a classic look.  :-)
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« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2017, 03:09:47 am »
Thanks guys, that was really what i was going for, so i appreciate the feedback.

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« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2017, 12:29:16 pm »
Looks nice and minty Chance.

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« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2017, 12:31:04 pm »
   All your tools seem so new and unused, not a bad thing just seems so curious, The literal use of (a new can ) of bondo seems fun also, You should give, kittyhair and liteweight feattherfill a try, it spreads nicer and processes like a dream.... Nice build friend. 8) 

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« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2017, 03:02:37 pm »
Nice work as usual, turned out great. How happy were you to be able to slap a decal on the side vs. painting a stencil?  ;D 

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« Reply #68 on: August 01, 2017, 10:15:51 pm »
Looks nice and minty Chance.
Thanks :)

   All your tools seem so new and unused, not a bad thing just seems so curious, The literal use of (a new can ) of bondo seems fun also, You should give, kittyhair and liteweight feattherfill a try, it spreads nicer and processes like a dream.... Nice build friend. 8) 

Thanks. Actually, if you watch the live stream you can see me bitching about some of my tools and how they haven't held up.

Nice work as usual, turned out great. How happy were you to be able to slap a decal on the side vs. painting a stencil?  ;D 

Thanks! Ya know, i really don't mind stencil work. Its really just a step further from adding side art.  I think in this case adding the laminate to the side was about as work intensive as having to paint the sides of that Robotron i did. So... its a tie? haha :)

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« Reply #69 on: August 01, 2017, 10:35:28 pm »
   That actually sounds like fun...Jenn will do that when I get a chance. (no pun intended) ;D (laugh at my own joke).

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« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2017, 11:30:07 pm »
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, a 12 HOUR video? And its the short version? :cheers:
Haha!  Streaming doesn't count since it's originally "Live".  I tuned in toward the 12 hour mark and helped "troubleshoot the audio".  Glad you got it going Chance!

Gorgeous resto too!  Congrats!

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« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2017, 01:26:14 am »
Haha!  Streaming doesn't count since it's originally "Live".  I tuned in toward the 12 hour mark and helped "troubleshoot the audio".  Glad you got it going Chance!

Gorgeous resto too!  Congrats!

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« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2017, 10:59:15 am »
Thanks! Ya know, i really don't mind stencil work. Its really just a step further from adding side art.  I think in this case adding the laminate to the side was about as work intensive as having to paint the sides of that Robotron i did. So... its a tie? haha :)

Good to know, my next 3 restores are all laminate jobs so I'll have some firsthand experience.

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« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2017, 12:09:16 pm »
Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(

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« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2017, 01:48:35 pm »
You need to time lapse that 12 hour video of GNG though.  Seriously.  It would be a cool montage.

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« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2017, 02:20:05 pm »
You need to time lapse that 12 hour video of GNG though.  Seriously.  It would be a cool montage.

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« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2017, 03:30:57 pm »
Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(

Been watching other videos, interested to see if you guys uncovered any little tips or tricks that were out of the ordinary. It seems pretty straightforward, trim laminate to 2" overhang, contact cement on both pieces, use dowels for placement, j-roller it, route it.

One of my 3 is a DK and I'm currently debating whether I need to remove the finish before laminating over it. I'm using the Nevamar laminate suggested in the Sky Skipper project and it looks like they just went right over the top with some light fill and sanding. I'm hoping with the thin vert grad laminate the width for the t-molding isn't an issue.

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« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2017, 03:42:13 pm »
Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(
Have you guys ever used laminate on a CP and drilled through it? I have a restore where I am doing that. I am nervous to ruin the laminate I put on.

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« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2017, 05:13:14 pm »
You need to time lapse that 12 hour video of GNG though.  Seriously.  It would be a cool montage.

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« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2017, 05:17:41 pm »
That was meant for DeL.
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« Reply #80 on: August 02, 2017, 05:23:50 pm »
Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(
Have you guys ever used laminate on a CP and drilled through it? I have a restore where I am doing that. I am nervous to ruin the laminate I put on.

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Did you drill the holes first and then laminate or do you need to drill a hole through both the laminate and the wood?

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« Reply #81 on: August 02, 2017, 05:48:02 pm »
Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(
Have you guys ever used laminate on a CP and drilled through it? I have a restore where I am doing that. I am nervous to ruin the laminate I put on.

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Did you drill the holes first and then laminate or do you need to drill a hole through both the laminate and the wood?
Both.

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« Reply #82 on: August 02, 2017, 06:23:27 pm »
I would recommend clamping a sacrificial board on top that you can drill through.  The laminate will be less likely to chip that way.  Make sure you drill down into the laminate otherwise it may try to separate from the force of the drill.

You could also make a hardboard template with your holes drilled where you want them.  Clamp the template on top of your laminate and use a pattern routing bit to route the holes.  A router bit would be less likely to chip than a drill bit.

Excellent.  We shoot footage for a laminate installation video. but i'm not sure sure how we're going to edit it yet.   :(
Have you guys ever used laminate on a CP and drilled through it? I have a restore where I am doing that. I am nervous to ruin the laminate I put on.

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Did you drill the holes first and then laminate or do you need to drill a hole through both the laminate and the wood?
Both.

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« Reply #83 on: August 03, 2017, 03:51:35 am »
You need to time lapse that 12 hour video of GNG though.  Seriously.  It would be a cool montage.

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That's a great idea.

I feel like that would get me a legit visit from Paul, with a gun. And he'd also try to steal my dog.

.... :P

Been watching other videos, interested to see if you guys uncovered any little tips or tricks that were out of the ordinary. It seems pretty straightforward, trim laminate to 2" overhang, contact cement on both pieces, use dowels for placement, j-roller it, route it.

One of my 3 is a DK and I'm currently debating whether I need to remove the finish before laminating over it. I'm using the Nevamar laminate suggested in the Sky Skipper project and it looks like they just went right over the top with some light fill and sanding. I'm hoping with the thin vert grad laminate the width for the t-molding isn't an issue.

Interestingly enough we DIDN'T trim it down before hand. just used the standard 8x4 sheets.  What Alex and Whitney did with the SkySkipper project was brilliant They had really good results. but then again, it really depends on what your cabs condition is.  My Mario needs work, lots of work. The front corners are smashed a bit, and i might just go the rattle can or HPLV route on it. I'm not sure. For the GnG i really wanted to try the laminate. Home Depot has sheets in stock for cheap, so i couldn't say no. And it wasn't even vertical grade. Just standard white. (Willsonart still i think). 

The one pro tip i can give you is use the right tools. get a proper file for cleaning the edge after you hit it with the router. We used sandpaper on a block and laminate eats that up like crazy, (my files were missing. Only found them after we had finished shooting).

I would recommend clamping a sacrificial board on top that you can drill through.  The laminate will be less likely to chip that way.  Make sure you drill down into the laminate otherwise it may try to separate from the force of the drill.

You could also make a hardboard template with your holes drilled where you want them.  Clamp the template on top of your laminate and use a pattern routing bit to route the holes.  A router bit would be less likely to chip than a drill bit.

This. 100% this.  wp34 speaks the truth!

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« Reply #84 on: August 03, 2017, 08:46:47 am »
Thanks guys! This really helps.

Sorry to steal some thunder from you thread Chance.

Keep up the good work.

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Re: TCA - Ghouls n' Ghosts Project cab pickup and Restoration!
« Reply #85 on: August 03, 2017, 09:24:17 am »
You need to time lapse that 12 hour video of GNG though.  Seriously.  It would be a cool montage.

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