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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2017, 07:29:26 pm »
Making the Control Panel

Started work on the control panel today.





So far so good.



Button fitting test.



I like the feel of the Happ competition buttons.

I will be cutting slots in the side panels and control panel for the t-moulding next, this will be done next weekend.

Hopefully I will also be able to cut and fit some more panels also (front, top & back).


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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #81 on: March 02, 2017, 04:40:39 pm »
Bracing

I have made a small amount of progression with the build.

The lower compartment will be for the power strip and subwoofer. The upper compartment will be for the PC.



Next I positioned the monitor to determine the correct height to mount it.





I plan to start painting the panels this weekend.

Any tips for paint prep?

I was planning to sand the mdf then prime, sand again then paint.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #82 on: March 02, 2017, 05:17:11 pm »
Is that particle board or MDF? I can give you tips on particle board if you were unfortunate enough to have to use it. I made that mistake :-(

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #83 on: March 02, 2017, 05:18:24 pm »
That monitor looks small.  Don't be cheap.


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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #84 on: March 02, 2017, 05:31:33 pm »
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Is that particle board or MDF?

MDF.

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That monitor looks small.  Don't be cheap.

It's a 27" monitor, any bigger and it would be a TV!


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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #85 on: March 02, 2017, 06:05:31 pm »
If you're looking for a mirror finish, check out Ond's videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ_BU8BpRDQ

To get is super smooth, I use an oil-based primer and paint, sanding with finer paper between each coat. Using oil products takes longer though since the dry time takes forever.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #86 on: March 02, 2017, 07:19:26 pm »
That monitor looks small.  Don't be cheap.

Big monitors are impressive at a distance, but for actual play isn't it optimal to have the whole screen fit within your field of view? With your head only an arm's length from the screen, 27" is huge. I'm going with a 24" in mine. I don't want to have to turn my head to look across the screen.

(Also, a 24" 16:9 ends up just a touch taller than a 19" 4:3. 19" was a fairly common monitor size for classic arcade games as far as I can tell.)
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #87 on: March 02, 2017, 07:54:51 pm »
I think what Jim might be alluding to is the fact that the cabinet size makes that monitor look small. In a lot of ways, you would have been better served designing the cabinet around the monitor and not vice versa.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #88 on: March 03, 2017, 01:00:42 am »
have you thought about vinyl wrap instead of paint ?

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #89 on: March 03, 2017, 09:58:28 am »
I think what Jim might be alluding to is the fact that the cabinet size makes that monitor look small. In a lot of ways, you would have been better served designing the cabinet around the monitor and not vice versa.

Correct.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2017, 10:16:50 am »
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To get is super smooth, I use an oil-based primer and paint, sanding with finer paper between each coat. Using oil products takes longer though since the dry time takes forever.

Thanks, I have oil based primer and paint ready, will get some fine sandpaper.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2017, 10:18:56 am »
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I think what Jim might be alluding to is the fact that the cabinet size makes that monitor look small. In a lot of ways, you would have been better served designing the cabinet around the monitor and not vice versa.

The monitor is 65cm wide, the arcade cabinet is 70cm wide.

I am happy with it and looks fine to me. Let's just wait and see what it looks like once it's together.  :)


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have you thought about vinyl wrap instead of paint ?

I did consider vinyl wrapping as I have seen that a few people have had great success with it, however I already had some oil primer and paint so went with that option.

Cheers for the suggestion.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2017, 10:25:55 am »
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27" is huge. I'm going with a 24" in mine. I don't want to have to turn my head to look across the screen.

Each to their own, if you are happy with 24" then go for it  :), I understand your logic and it makes sense.

I wanted something bigger then 24" but smaller than 32"

27" it is for me. :)
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2017, 10:37:43 am »
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I think the issue is that the monitor is just sitting on a desk with 1 side of the machine propped up and it appears that the desk is the width of the cab.

Ah I see, that would make sense Malenko.

The cabinet definitely will not be the size of the table.

70cm width.

Good observation.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2017, 10:55:58 am »
I think what Jim might be alluding to is the fact that the cabinet size makes that monitor look small. In a lot of ways, you would have been better served designing the cabinet around the monitor and not vice versa.

Correct.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2017, 11:45:29 am »
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27" is huge. I'm going with a 24" in mine. I don't want to have to turn my head to look across the screen.

Each to their own, if you are happy with 24" then go for it  :), I understand your logic and it makes sense.

I wanted something bigger then 24" but smaller than 32"

27" it is for me. :)

My apologies N-J, I was unclear. I didn't mean that 27" was too big. I meant that it was plenty big enough, and certainly not small enough to be "cheap." The "turn my head" bit was in contrast to the really big screens I've seen used by some.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2017, 02:31:23 pm »
Keep in mind that if the primer/paint is gumming up on your sandpaper, it isn't dry. Patience is key with oil-based products.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #97 on: March 04, 2017, 05:33:57 pm »
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My apologies N-J, I was unclear.

Lol, no need to apologise, no offense taken, everyone has a personal preference on screen size.

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eep in mind that if the primer/paint is gumming up on your sandpaper, it isn't dry. Patience is key with oil-based products.

Handy advice, will keep this in mind. Cheers.


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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #98 on: March 06, 2017, 08:55:09 am »
Building the Cabinet

Made some more progress.





Can hopefully move on to painting the cabinet soon.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #99 on: March 06, 2017, 09:22:41 am »
Why did you do the button holes so far back?
Those admin buttons look rather close to the edge!

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2017, 09:56:38 am »
Why did you do the button holes so far back?
Those admin buttons look rather close to the edge!
I agree. You have all that space there, and those holes look super awkward right up in those corners.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #101 on: March 07, 2017, 07:58:14 am »
I have based my button positioning on the X-Arcade dual-stick. I play on a X-Arcade dual-stick frequently and find it very comfortable having space to rest my wrist and forearm.



Ignoring the two lower offset buttons, you can see that the stick has plenty of space between the buttons and the bottom of the control panel.

I measured the distance between the bottom 3 buttons and the bottom of the control panel and copied this when making my control panel.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #102 on: March 07, 2017, 08:37:12 am »
Its more just the Admin buttons than the play buttons.
Ime with you on the wrist rest area but I think you would of been better moving  the whole thing down a inch.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2017, 08:59:38 am »
I messed up with the admin buttons, got my measurements wrong.

They are very close to the edge, closer then I would like, however as the mdf is 18mm the structure around the button is still very strong.

I'm going to roll with it and see how it goes.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #104 on: March 07, 2017, 10:31:24 am »
I was more concerned about your bezel/monitor/plexi cover tbh ;)

Not to mention the awkward-ness of the outer 2 lol

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2017, 03:34:11 pm »
It's not that hard to cut a plug for the hole, fill in the gaps with sawdust & wood glue mixture, then redrill them where you want.
MDF is basically sawdust and glue anyway.

(hole all the way to the right was filled in and redrilled lower.....it was actually correct the first time, but that's beside the point  :-[ )


EDIT:
Since you have the player start buttons close to where I do, here is mine for reference:
(not that it's standard or anything)
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2017, 03:41:36 pm »
Since your cabinet isn't as wide, you might consider arranging them something more like this, but up higher inline with the select button:

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #107 on: March 17, 2017, 09:02:26 am »
Thanks for the handy tip BadMouth, I plan to fill the holes with a saw dust and wood glue mixture and re-position the buttons to a better location.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2017, 09:13:01 am »
Sanding

Update.

Cabinet ready for sanding prior to painting.



Sanding begins.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #109 on: March 17, 2017, 10:04:19 am »
Nigel... you don't have to sand MDF. I would use a high quality primer and top coat. Thats all you need brother.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2017, 01:17:59 pm »
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Nigel... you don't have to sand MDF. I would use a high quality primer and top coat. Thats all you need brother.

eeek too late, already sanded, nevermind, thanks for trying to inform me though Ian, shame I did not see your message before.
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2017, 01:22:07 pm »
Update

Applied primer to the cabinet.





After letting the primer dry I began painting with a oil based paint.









The next day I worked on the front kick panel, routing a space for the coin door.

This router is slowly becoming my favourite power tool thanks to this site, I had never even heard of a router before arcadecontrols.com





Electronics finally being installed.



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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2017, 04:50:36 pm »
Starting to come along :)

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2017, 06:43:13 am »
Thanks Titch.

Will be mounting the monitor next.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #114 on: March 30, 2017, 09:30:18 am »
Monitor mount complete.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #115 on: April 04, 2017, 11:33:03 am »
Update

So originally I had decided to go with a 2.1 PC speaker setup, however I went cold on this idea and purchased some 5.25 drivers with an amplifier instead.

On the weekend I began working on the speaker panel.




I marked the area to be routed.



The end result.



Then chamfered the edge.



Saw dust from the chamfering.



I tackled mounting the Sanwa JLF joysitcks next.

I had to dismantle the joystick so that I could use the mounting plate as a template.



Using the router I cut out a square for the joystick to sit in to.

Next I needed to route out some of the control panel to allow the metal mounting plate to sit just below the surface.



The end result.

Hopefully now with 2mm Plexiglass on top of the control panel surface I should get the correct mounting height for a Sanwa JLF joystick.



 




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« Reply #116 on: April 04, 2017, 12:10:29 pm »
Cabinet with the control panel in place and monitor mounted.



Speaker panel and admin button panel mounted.





Applied primer to the new panels. (Excuse the front door panel, going to re-do it all as i'm not happy with it).



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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #117 on: April 04, 2017, 05:47:17 pm »
Looking good!
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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #118 on: April 04, 2017, 05:54:13 pm »
Are you wearing a good dust mask or respirator? That MDF dust is toxic.

You are making good progress.

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Re: The Streets of Rage Project
« Reply #119 on: April 05, 2017, 11:14:37 am »
Thanks Ian & Mike A.

Mike A, I'm wearing a dust mask when cutting the MDF, thanks all the same for the advice.

I didn't know that MDF dust was toxic prior to reading through ArcadeControls.com threads.  :-\
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