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Aliens: Extermination
« on: January 05, 2017, 02:16:51 pm »
As the driving sub-forum seems to also double up as the unofficial light gun forum, I thought this seemed like the best place to post this (plus I rarely ever venture out into the other parts of BYOAC). Aliens: Extermination by Global VR has been dumped. Sounds a bit on the complicated side to get up and running though...

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 02:34:57 pm »
Ooohhh now thats interesting!
Looks like ive just found my next game to source :p

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2017, 02:54:56 pm »
Commenting so I remember to dig into this later

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 03:15:04 pm »
If you go to *****************************  you won't have to dig very far...




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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 03:17:21 pm »
Yeah ive already back traced it ;)
Seems hes running it on a dedicated XP rig though so may cause problems running it on windows 7 etc.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2017, 04:57:39 pm »
It'll cause issues most likely.  ppjoy is a colossal pain in the butt to install on any OS with signed drivers.  I can probably hack it via troubleshooter or it can be added to demul shooter, ect. 

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 05:26:45 pm »
It'll cause issues most likely.  ppjoy is a colossal pain in the butt to install on any OS with signed drivers.  I can probably hack it via troubleshooter or it can be added to demul shooter, ect.

If you can hack this I will love you long time!! ;)

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 06:55:35 pm »
Oooooo really need this, looks awesome :)

If anyone gets it working can they post in here with instructions please:)
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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2017, 09:15:36 pm »
I managed to get it running! Uploading a video to youtube right now.
         

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2017, 09:32:33 pm »
         

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2017, 09:33:10 pm »
I downloaded it.  I'll poke around and see if I can get rid of this dedicated harddrive nonsense. 

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2017, 09:42:17 pm »
So if this game has been cracked. What are the chances of being able to crack other games from global vr

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2017, 02:21:56 am »
I would say the chances are fairly good.  I'm not even sure if the issue was cracking it or getting a proper dump of it.  These embedded XP games rarely have much going on besides a regular old windows program... sometimes a hardware dongle is used, but other than that....

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2017, 04:08:20 am »
I would say the chances are fairly good.  I'm not even sure if the issue was cracking it or getting a proper dump of it.  These embedded XP games rarely have much going on besides a regular old windows program... sometimes a hardware dongle is used, but other than that....

Do you think you could get it running with mouse input to?
Would love to get this going with aim traks!

Only just downloaded it so ile have a play some time...

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2017, 05:23:03 am »
Thinking out loud here guys as I read that the game needs Windows XP to run so couldn't the free to download from Microsoft 'Windows XP Mode' for Windows 7/10 be used as a basis to get this game running?

As long as your CPU supports virtualization technology, Windows Virtual PC can create a Virtual Windows XP environment from within your Windows 7/10 OS.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=8002

Just a thought?

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2017, 05:28:17 am »
Well I just extracted the image to a spare external hdd i had sitting around but windows does not recognise it.
I assume it has its own booting sequence and needs to be started by itself?

Have I got that right Brian?

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2017, 05:41:36 am »
You have to clone the vm hdd image.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2017, 05:52:09 am »
Can you give us a bit more info on that please brian?

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2017, 06:06:40 am »
You have to use ghost64 to clone the vmware hard drive image to another hard drive. If you don't get a bsod, you install gpu and sound card drivers for xp

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2017, 06:24:39 am »
Cheers Brian, whats BSOD?

EDIT: Just plugged my External HDD back in and now its actually reading it!  :embarassed:

Now I just gota work out if theres some way I can run it.....
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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2017, 06:46:59 am »
Blue screen of death

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2017, 06:54:31 am »
If you go to *****************************  you won't have to dig very far...




EDITED by BadMouth:  Rulez violation  :-\

Sorry BM, I thought I was being obscure enough enough to not break the rules. My bad.
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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2017, 07:00:34 am »
Blue screen of death

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Funny, I just thought ide try booting it from start up, Sure enough blue screen and I was like "Dumb ass - BSOD = Blue screen of death!" LOL

So yeah... Work to be done, Be nice to find a way of booting this without having to boot from the HDD.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2017, 07:40:00 am »
I tried coping the pc folder to c: but got a error that it couldn't find shaders. Guessing when the gpu drivers get installed it copies files to the folder. Person might try uninstalling video card drivers and reinstalling them and seeing if it works.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2017, 07:58:16 am »


Ordered one of these to play with it.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2017, 08:17:02 am »
I tried running the exe directly from the HDD in windows 7 but got a "could not find (sorry forgot)"

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2017, 08:54:40 am »
You can try and run it on whatever you want but until someone goes in and changes what the game is looking for you're only going to get it with a clone global vr.  Don't think of it as a stand alone program...yet (maybe howard will work howard magic)

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2017, 08:55:57 am »
If you go to *****************************  you won't have to dig very far...




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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2017, 08:57:54 am »
Do you think you could get it running with mouse input to?
Would love to get this going with aim traks!

It's been years since I messed with mine, but don't they have a joystick mode?

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2017, 09:00:20 am »
Do you think you could get it running with mouse input to?
Would love to get this going with aim traks!

It's been years since I messed with mine, but don't they have a joystick mode?

They do, but mine are set up for mouse :p

Worst comes to worst if Howard can work his magic I can change it for occasional play :p

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2017, 09:41:32 am »
That's why I lucked out with the a-pac

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2017, 12:21:50 pm »
Just a first glance.... there are just file names, no paths in the exe.  So either it's using the current path or just wants everything in the root.  50/50 odds it can be changed easily. 

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« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2017, 03:30:15 pm »
Just a first glance.... there are just file names, no paths in the exe.  So either it's using the current path or just wants everything in the root.  50/50 odds it can be changed easily. 

Thems reasonable odds, We have faith in you!  :notworthy:

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2017, 08:46:04 pm »
I appreciate the faith, but keep in mind I'm not working on it atm.  Gotta get fxt's hud ironed out since people are wanting to vectorize the sprites and then I need to get my poor old computer in order. 

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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2017, 08:25:30 pm »
I got this running lag free now. Upgraded the agp card to 512mb. Swapped my trigger and button wires around so that works right. Still missing button 3 for flame and don't think I will add it. Using xpadder to map the coin and start button to the correct keys. Like I said in the video using a kvm to switch audio, video and controls. Hey Howard, if you decide to dig around in this. Any chance you could find the solenoid output so we could run it threw mamehooker?

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2017, 03:42:29 pm »
Hey guys. I am nowhere near a hacker or a computer wiz but a couple of things I discovered after getting this working.

You need an IDE drive. If you try to use a SATA drive it will BSOD upon bootup with a Stop error code because it's looking for IDE drivers. You can change it to use SATA by loading the registry in the drive and changing some values.

You need a Realtek onboard chipset.

You need to replace the abhloader.exe in the original PC/aliens/DATA with the one that comes by itself in the archive, that will stop the game from complaining about the usbkey upon first run.

Once you get into the desktop, you just execute unlock.bat in the cabinet's document folder in order to modify the drive like a normal drive if not anything you try to install will not go well. Once you execute that, it will reboot and now you are able to have free reign.

Get a flash drive and get your download  net4.0, wic_enu_x86.exe, and then winxp sp3, drivers for your Realtek card and drivers for your graphics card. Also pick up ppjoy4-4-8-6. The game takes joystick input to control the gun cursors and uses all three mouse buttons for Fire, Flame Thrower and Grenade launcher.

So insert your flash drive then install:
1-Wic_enu_x86.exe
2-Net Framework 4.0
3-Sp3 (don't worry, it's compatible with XP Embedded)
4-ATI or Nvidia drivers
5-Realtek drivers
6-PPjoy
AND MAKE SURE YOU FORCE VSYNC IN YOUR VIDEO CARDS CONTROL CENTER.

Go to ppjoys folder and click on the mouseppjoy.exe, then minimize it.

Now start the game and get into the service menu by pressing 5 or 6 and Calibrate your guns in the system tests menu.

Coins are Lctrl or Lshift, 1 is Start.

Windows 7.....

The goal should be to run this game without having to waste an hdd.

So the game is located in the root of the HD, PC folder.

If you put it in your root of your drive, the game will start but will come up with a "Unable to open AVI frame"....this is most likely because you don't have divx codec installed, but the real problem comes after that, as you get a wallpaper that says "Searching for Dongle"

Now in the windows folder on the aliens HD image there is a folder with the Aladdin/Hasp dongle files. There is also a registry entry under enumerator/HASP with a whole bunch of binary numbers. I know there is a HASP dongle emu but you need to load a .dng file in order for it to work.

If someone can eliminate the dongle problem, with installing some programs from the aliens hdd that the game needs I think it can run off of other win os.






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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2017, 04:20:48 pm »
Intresting update :)

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2017, 05:49:47 pm »
Sounds a real ball ache to try to get it working for the occasional retro gaming fan, it would be worth the effort if you were a die hard fan of the game I guess but I just want to be able to click a shortcut and run it.

Shame it can't be made to run off a bootable USB pen drive or something else less cumbersome :(
 

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2017, 08:20:59 pm »
Yeah, my thoughts too Gary, just sounds like way too much hassle at the moment.

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Re: Aliens: Extermination
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2017, 08:37:15 pm »
It is a lot of hassle guys. This is no easy Type X game. Took me two weeks because the dude who shared this had a horrible tutorial because he did not speak English well.

When I first saw this game years ago at a casino, as a die hard fan of the franchise I was in awe. I would check the internet periodically for a dump as I knew globalVR was PC based and leaking PC arcade titles has blown up since Type X.

Hopwfully some of the skilled guys can poke around the drive and find a way to make this stand alone.

  
 

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